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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Sassy Colin said:
Am I missing something? The DUP are pro-Bexit but don't want a hard border? They seem a bit confused, if so.
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They say publicly they don't want a hard border, but i think secretly most of them would be delighted if it happened.
 
Looking like the brexiteers are buttering up to May's deal cause they are scared the whole thing is going to pot.

Chris Williamson.
 
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Paul the Wolf said:
It was brought up and discussed on here prior to the referendum.
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Hi Peter. I don't doubt that. I was referring more to the actual debates prior to Brexit.
I have a copy of the government literature that was sent out prior to the referendum and the issue of the Irish border was not mentioned.

It may have been spoken about at some stage but I really cannot recall that being a major issue to be considered.
I do recall Liam Fox saying that the Irish border was simply a 'sideshow'.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Am I missing something? The DUP are pro-Bexit but don't want a hard border? They seem a bit confused, if so.
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They aren't the only ones who are confused. So many contradictory views.
Even the dreaded 'Brexit means Brexit' means different things to different people.
 
Buster15 said:
Hi Peter. I don't doubt that. I was referring more to the actual debates prior to Brexit.
I have a copy of the government literature that was sent out prior to the referendum and the issue of the Irish border was not mentioned.

It may have been spoken about at some stage but I really cannot recall that being a major issue to be considered.
I do recall Liam Fox saying that the Irish border was simply a 'sideshow'.
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Peter?

Yes it didn't get enough coverage as it should have.
Although like everything else that was pointed out would happen if Brexit went ahead, it was all dismissed as not true or scaremongering.
 
Hunt been pushing for a time limit on the backstop at Cabinet today. I can't decide if they're idiots themselves or just trying to please the idiots and irresponsibly allowing it to run down the clock.

All the actions coming out now could and should have been done months ago.
 
A friend who works for Sainsbury says Sainsbury's plan is to call upon the military to maintain law and order during the scramble for groceries in the days immediately after Brexit.
 
if i can't still order from Amazon i'll be pissed.

also, the missus is supposed to be going to London at the start of April for the weekend, which was going to be a lovely free weekend for me. If she can't go now, shit's going down, Westminster.
 


Which part of "the backstop cannot have an expiry date" doesn't he understand.

More pointless amendments like the No deal one

And this is what the Dromey/Spelman amendment says:

At end add “and rejects the United Kingdom leaving the European Union without a withdrawal agreement and a framework for the future relationship”.


They're all living in an alternative universe.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Peter?

Yes it didn't get enough coverage as it should have.
Although like everything else that was pointed out would happen if Brexit went ahead, it was all dismissed as not true or scaremongering.
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Sorry. Paul.
Quite agree. We have quite understandably become mistrustful of pretty much anything we are told; be it lies or so called fake news.

I have long stopped buying a newspaper and even the major news channels are accused of bias.
It is now about taking a balanced view of the information we are supplied with then making up your own mind.

Too often people want someone else to make their mind up for them.
I am too old to make much use of 'social media' except for this forum which I see as challenging my views and not agreeing with everything.
 
Buster15 said:
Sorry. Paul.
Quite agree. We have quite understandably become mistrustful of pretty much anything we are told; be it lies or so called fake news.

I have long stopped buying a newspaper and even the major news channels are accused of bias.
It is now about taking a balanced view of the information we are supplied with then making up your own mind.

Too often people want someone else to make their mind up for them.
I am too old to make much use of 'social media' except for this forum which I see as challenging my views and not agreeing with everything.
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Can't remember the last time I bought a newspaper. I have Facebook, which I'd prefer to get rid of but just keep it to see what friends and family are up to.
What people believe on there is beyond comprehension, not just on Brexit or politics but everything.
 
Eh, what I meant was, my bumhole is currently the border, clean, easy to cross over, and no friction, but if my missus stopped doing it (i.e. there was "no deal" between us), then shit would hit the fan.
 
Buster15 said:
Sorry. Paul.
Quite agree. We have quite understandably become mistrustful of pretty much anything we are told; be it lies or so called fake news.

I have long stopped buying a newspaper and even the major news channels are accused of bias.
It is now about taking a balanced view of the information we are supplied with then making up your own mind.

Too often people want someone else to make their mind up for them.
I am too old to make much use of 'social media' except for this forum which I see as challenging my views and not agreeing with everything.
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I'd be able to make up my mind if you'd provide me with those lies that the Remain side were spreading.
 


I think this might be my favourite thing yet to occur. A Tory Brexiteer running to a foreign goverment begging them to block the will of the UK parliament :lol:

I like the 'as promised' as if he's a moody teen crying that its so unfair

Edit: Also an interesting tweet attached to that conversation including an article about this MP working for a group who stand to make a killing on the speculation of gold should we end up with no deal
 
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If brexit gets delayed do you guys still have an european election? It's less than 2 months between the deadline and the eu election, right?

Because you could end in the weird situation of still being in the eu but without european mp's.
 
maniak said:
If brexit gets delayed do you guys still have an european election? It's less than 2 months between the deadline and the eu election, right?

Because you could end in the weird situation of still being in the eu but without european mp's.
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No one knows yet, it was reported last week that the EU were proposing our MEPs staying on during the extension but think that was just an idea floated.
 
maniak said:
If brexit gets delayed do you guys still have an european election? It's less than 2 months between the deadline and the eu election, right?

Because you could end in the weird situation of still being in the eu but without european mp's.
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Nailed on to happen isn't it? That's what this last few years have thrown up.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Am I missing something? The DUP are pro-Bexit but don't want a hard border? They seem a bit confused, if so.
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They're ... complicated?
They have one policy - protect their union with Britain and block attempts at integration with the Republic. Everything else is an extension or irrelevance next to that. With the changing population demographics they're kind of doomed to fail in the long term and thats been known for a long time. So brexit is probably a bit of a wild card to throw into the mix and getting a border between them and rest of ireland sounds great to them. It'll be a mess economically and will probably kick off some violence but the DUP your dealing with are living in London so are seperated from the reality and pressures of the situation on ground level. They're more attached to their ideology than most. Its worth noting that they were against the Good Friday Agreement too.
For all intents and purposes i'd view them as pushing for a no deal brexit.
 
That'sHernandez said:
If Article 50 date is extended, do we keep all of our current standings within the EU? For example I understand that if Article 50 is revoked before the 29th March our status in the EU would be as though the referendum never happened, however would that still be the case if Article 50 extended, is the date simply arbitrary as opposed to a date when we live or die?

Secondly if breakfast is extended, does that mean I have to wait longer to be able to buy the lunch menu at McDonald's?
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My understanding is that;
a) It will only be extended if we have a specific reason for it to be so. I.e. May’s deal has been agreed and needs to be ratified by the various legislative bodies across Europe, We’re having a second referendum.
b) EU elections are scheduled for mid-summer (July), so any discussions will need to have been concluded by then anyway.
 
ThierryHenry said:
My understanding is that;
a) It will only be extended if we have a specific reason for it to be so. I.e. May’s deal has been agreed and needs to be ratified by the various legislative bodies across Europe, We’re having a second referendum.
b) EU elections are scheduled for mid-summer (July), so any discussions will need to have been concluded by then anyway.
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EU elections are in May and the new parliament sits at the beginning of July
 
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