The EU have stated they will allow an extension of the article 50 deadline to facilitate a 2nd referendum.
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The EU have stated they will allow an extension of the article 50 deadline to facilitate a 2nd referendum.
Does anyone know when Labour could put a referendum motion to the house?
After some thought i think they should hold off on any motion until May presents her Plan B. May will just use it as an argument to support her bill otherwise and MPs will want to again give May another chance to come up with something
After some thought i think they should hold off on any motion until May presents her Plan B. May will just use it as an argument to support her bill otherwise and MPs will want to again give May another chance to come up with something
The whole situation with Norway and the EU is different to most other countries considering we've got ridiculous amounts of natural resources that we won't let others control. Whole different thing to England really. It is not like the EU can choose not to trade with Norway, considering 36% of all gas consumed in the EU comes from Norway.
Merkel and the rest of the krauts will find the winters cold if they do.
Also the reason why Noggie politicians don't want England in the EEC is because you would become too dominant.
Besides, you shouldn't listen to Erna Solberg, she is from our variety of the torries, and would happily give away Norway in it's entirety if it meant a better career trajectory for herself. The cnut.
Even that is not a given though, is it? My understanding is they are saying they would be well predisposed to providing that extension, but it would requite unanimity from the 27. So one country with a gripe about something could wreck the plan.
As a lifelong Labour voter I totally agree with your last point.
I would have to do a lot of soul searching before I could vote Labour with JC at the helm.
TWAT
I get the feeling lots of voters thought the UK leaving the EU would be as simple as cancelling a Netflix subscription.
So May wants to reach out to opposition MPs, but has already ruled out a customs union.
Has she learned nothing?
Has she learned nothing?
Think I'll change my evaluation:
90% No Deal, 10% Revoke A50
90% No Deal, 10% Revoke A50
So her answer is to give the deal a second look?
The sad thing is you’re right. A few (not all) Leavers that I spoke to said things like “just leave the bloody thing”. The immensely complex nature of trade deals wasn’t considered.
I think you are correct. I have no idea how they can find a solution for this mess. Even if the EU confirms that they'll allow an extension for couple of months, there is no clear path to a solution.
Exactly, they could be talking about this for the next ten years and they'll never agree a solution amongst themselves.
Who invited Mark Corrigan to speak?
Exactly half a century of EU integration can't be undone without massive disruption.
3 years later and loads still think it's really simple to leave, look at Warnock the other day.
To hell with the rest of the world!
Well there's obesity and overcrowding solved. All aboard the Brexit train.
The Warnocks and the like can have their colonial days - put them on a wooden boat and ship them to Australia
Trains? The trains wont be running, the lines are blocked by all the lorries backing up from Dover.
So we'll walk everywhere in our animal hides. Stick that on your battle bus.
For those who need trains, have faith in Chris Grayling. He knows exactly what he's doing.
If they want to ensure a win for remain, they should let the 3m BN(O) holders in Hong Kong vote. It’ll be 95%+ remain out of those.
Hah. The way his face drops when he sees where the questioning is going. Slimy toad.
It was a binary choice initially, Leave or Remain and nothing has really changed, except we have had two years or more of smoke and mirrors from the whole UK Parliament (all sides) who found itself blindsided by the outcome of the referendum and no idea what to do!
The whole idea of any 'deal' was a nonsense dreamed up, by mainly UK politicians to placate the public. In fairness the EU made it clear from the outset there would not be any discussions, or negotiations on trade until the UK had left the EU.
We will Leave on the 29th March without any deal, unless May's Government cancels Brexit completely and we Remain in the EU.
Its still a binary choice
The whole idea of any 'deal' was a nonsense dreamed up, by mainly UK politicians to placate the public. In fairness the EU made it clear from the outset there would not be any discussions, or negotiations on trade until the UK had left the EU.
We will Leave on the 29th March without any deal, unless May's Government cancels Brexit completely and we Remain in the EU.
Its still a binary choice
That is kind of them (not).
The EU will almost anything to stop the UK leaving.
I voted to remain but I fully accept the vote and see no reason for a second referendum.
Really??? Our agreement negotiations have been pathetic and there are splits all over the place and you are blaming the EU for stopping us leaving? We can leave whenever we want, its whether its with a deal or not. They have been consistent with their negotiations and their stance.
And lets not forget, there is a Police investigation with regard to overspending and false spending returns for Vote Leave in terms of the first referendum. The risks of brexit have just not gotten through to the electorate, the majority of people seem to be worried about immigration and that by leaving the EU, that will somehow magically solve that issue, it won't.
Woahhhhh don’t go bringing that up! That’s far to politically sensitive to be discussed.
Can you even name one thing they've done to frustrate brexit so far? Or a feasible action they could have taken to help that they haven't?
The problem seems to be everyone is forgetting about it (conveniently in some groups) and yet its one of the biggest breaks of electoral law.
They could give us all the benefits of membership, without asking us to pay a penny for it, or follow any of the rules. Because we are Britain, goddamit, we used to rule the bloody world.
It’s not forgotten about, it’s buried. May made sure of that. Identical situation to the Republicans covering for Trump. She will have had huge pressure from the Leave section of her party to quash it because it would have been hugely damaging to their Brexit mandate.
That's Labour's current Brexit strategy.
No no no no no, they arent talking about THE customs union, theyre talking about A customs union. A new, bespoke customs union that they will be totally happy to agree with us because theyll be nicer to them in the meetings.
Its a completely rational strategy that makes perfect sense.
Well hopefully when the convictions get dished out, people will get their just desserts, including that pillock Darren Grimes!
Yes of course, and they'll let the UK do their own trade deals at completely different tariffs with completely different standards.
I think the issue some people have is that they seem to think the EU are some sort of emotion driven morons like a lot of our own politicians, and the electorate they hoodwinked.
It's unfathomable to these people that organisations like the EU work on a set of terms and conditions. If you want a slice of the pie you accept them, if you don't like the terms you go somewhere else. Somehow our politicians have managed to convince people that they could get the EU to change their own terms for our benefit.
So basically, you're not bothered, remain or leave?
How utterly pointless and irrelevant.
He'd be able to answer it far better if it was. Just look at him squirm.
But, really, who cares? (Apart from Eboue)