Feck, from what I see there is a good % of British people who struggle to put food on the table on daily basis, for various reasons. Few weeks seems like a strech.
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Feck, from what I see there is a good % of British people who struggle to put food on the table on daily basis, for various reasons. Few weeks seems like a strech.
When even Ramsay MacDonald is ahead of you in the governmental stability table, things are less than ideal.
Aye, but if there's a crisis it doesn't help those people any if the better off are also flooding the supermarkets and emptying the shelves. Although people would do that anyway, even if they had a months supply of backup food at home. People become selfish very easily.
Wow, Tulip Sadiq delaying the birth of her child so she can vote tomorrow. It really is time for them to bring in organized proxy voting and stop this archaic madness.
https://labourlist.org/2019/01/tuli...aign=Feed:+LabourListLatestPosts+(LabourList)
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Around the Maastricht votes they were carrying old feckers in on stretchers to get a vote out of them before they croaked. They hid one in a bog and he jumped out at the last minute, sneaked past the whips and turned the vote against his own government. All very entertaining, I'll be disappointed if there isn't more mace-wielding rampage before the week's out.
Particulalry when you cant trust the government to stand by paring arangements.
Normally they do voting pairs don't they... I.e. somebody of the opposite view agrees to pair with Them and not vote.
Would like to think there is enough honour in our elected officials to do that
Its mentioned in the article that someone last year didn't honour the agreement when paired with a pregnant lady in the opposition party.
edit: No prizes for guessing what party he belongs to or his Brexit views.
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Nope
This is a very sad truth about our society.
Each MP's Brexit Position in a spreadsheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ktqCioirDDTRnnWd-1WHuA-7mvjuA5C3rTTrYpZ7mkA/htmlview#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ktqCioirDDTRnnWd-1WHuA-7mvjuA5C3rTTrYpZ7mkA/htmlview#gid=0
They believed they could follow the centuries old doctrine used in days of empire...namely divide and rule.
They thought they could get the EU to fight like ferrets in a sack and win the day...have their cake etc.
What they don't seem to have twigged is that the British also have a centuries old reputation for reneging on treaties when it suits them.
The masterstroke pulled by the EU was to set up a separate line of authority between Barnier and Tusk so the British idea of buttering up the Italian ambassador became irrelevant.
Ironic that Brexit negotiations mark the dancing on the grave of the British Empire
It was always there, call me dave decided to highlight it with the ref.
If she loses by that margin she will resign.
and May will limp on and continue with "getting on with the job"
Interesting... I'm not sure it will be that bad a defeat but it does show that they are (in the words of a conservative MP) going to get smashed.
Also if labour switched to backing a second referendum as official policy the numbers might be there to get over the 50% assuming a few soft brexit types would also back that
I'm not sure... Last roll of the dice she might call a snap general election?
With those figures even if all the Tories voted for they'd still lose and relinquish all responsibility for the consequences of the vote against.
I think I'm with you. I don't know what it would take for this woman to actually resign.
All that money spent on DUP support and she doesn't even have it.
You mean she threw money at corrupt bigoted dinosaurs and didnt get what she wanted back? Shocking isnt it?
So... what's the most likely outcome?
Chaos.
If you've got ardent Brexiters and ardent Remainers voting for the same thing, you know there's a serious problem.
If you were a betting man, do you reckon a second Referendum is most likely, or something else?
I've tried to read as many articles as possible around the topic, but I can't find any commentators willing to put their money where their mouth is. Plus, the whole situation is in such flux that everything I read is out of date by the time I get to the end of it.
Any informed opinions would be appreciated!
There are so many weird things happening the outcome could be anything but I'd see May string it out as long as possible. Favourite for me at the moment is No Deal. Not preference - I'd like to see Brexit cancelled but don't see how.
Thanks, mate. Appreciate it.
Who knew!
So are any of you guys going to / have already started to stockpile foodstuff?
My head tells me that there shouldn’t be a need to panic buy but stories of people doing so seem to be gathering pace and I wonder if I’m sticking my head in the ground trying to ignore the pending madness.
I saw people practically scrapping for marked down ready meals in Tesco yesterday and I dread to think what it would be like if food was genuinely in short suppply.
My head tells me that there shouldn’t be a need to panic buy but stories of people doing so seem to be gathering pace and I wonder if I’m sticking my head in the ground trying to ignore the pending madness.
I saw people practically scrapping for marked down ready meals in Tesco yesterday and I dread to think what it would be like if food was genuinely in short suppply.
Extension, I'd be fecking amazed if it didn't happen at this point.
Actually the masterstroke is that the people in the country where i live are annoyed that the economy will get fecked cos of brexit, who is listening to them? Not the eu. Four freedoms no flexability.
I doubt she's got a mission beyond brexit. If it passes she'll hand over thinking her self a success and if it's a referendum or GE she'll stand down.
If we go down the path of renegotiation i could see her clinging on perhaps. I still don't know which way the vote of no confidence will go
Stockpiling food FFS. It's not nuclear war.
I think she will survive the confidence motion as the dup have said they will back her
I mean if sense prevails we'll avoid all that stuff but we've already seen prospective problems with vital medicines in the case of a No Deal Brexit. Some people don't seem to understand how genuinely disastrous a No Deal Brexit could actually be.
I am not sure there are truly informed opinions as so much is up in the air. Certainly the markets are in wait and see mode. May’s deal won’t pass tomorrow and it’s all about the scale of the defeat. Personally I think we’ll see an extension of the March deadline by a few more months.