Yes emotive stuff but the fact remains Scotland was never a colony, entered willing into the partnership that was the union, and was not subjugated in the brutal manner that Ireland was. To equate the two is historical bunkum and has only gained recent credence due to a crap film
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Yes emotive stuff but the fact remains Scotland was never a colony, entered willing into the partnership that was the union, and was not subjugated in the brutal manner that Ireland was. To equate the two is historical bunkum and has only gained recent credence due to a crap film
Scotland is currently a colony however it was achieved. James wanted to own everything and by the time of the political union Scotland already has an English Monarch so was in a personal union already. Hardly a free joining of equals.
Comedy gold.
Dear lord. They actually don't understand the whole process, do they? Or maybe they do and they think the public are really thick? Which says a lot, too. Maybe they need a "Trade for Dummies" course or something.
I mean, this guy is a Secretary of State for one of the world's most powerful countries with a population of 65m, just .. how?
Was Scotland settled by the English? Scotland and England are a Union not a Colony. By any terms that Colony is understood, I don't see quite how Scotland is one.
Before people start on me as some sort of English twat I have no English in me. My mother was Scottish and my father was Austrian.
We rule/own them.
Scotland is a country with its own traditions and ways of doing things yet it has representation in Westminster and also its own Parliament, in no terms is it ruled any differently to how England is ruled, or Wales. Scotland has the right to self-determination and as for colony I am willing to bet that a damn sight more Scots have settled in England than English have ever settled in Scotland. If the Scots don't like and haven't enjoyed austerity for the last 8 years then it is no more liked by the English. Freedom!
Not anymore, these last twenty years he has smelt dead thank you.And you Uncle smelt of elderberries?
What is happening is now a national humiliation. The long spoken about influence the UK once had in Europe and around the world is now over and we are quickly being relegated down the list of respected and powerful countries.
What's worse is that we have done this to ourselves. The rhetoric may continue but in reality the UK is now a second rate western country and most influence we had is withering away rapidly.
What's worse is that we have done this to ourselves. The rhetoric may continue but in reality the UK is now a second rate western country and most influence we had is withering away rapidly.
I'm not sure Monty Python would like that answer.
But you are not French either Wibbs
It’s all so surreal. Like the whole thing is a parody and none of us are in on the joke.
But you are not French either Wibbs
Ohhh. So you have to be fat to be stout now do you?
Don't you oppress me.
Freedom!Ohhh. So you have to be fat to be stout now do you?
Don't you oppress me.
Anyone think May will resign today or by next week?
I just can't see how she can keep going, as there's nowhere for her to go.
I just can't see how she can keep going, as there's nowhere for her to go.
This makes little sense I'm afraid, they are working for their electorate by pushing the agenda on which they were elected to office. The fact this differs from the government reflects the elecorates split views/interests.
This just gets more and more embarrassing from May. They've had the clarifications prepared before they even pulled the vote and known they weren't getting anything substantial.
She's nothing to hide behind, it's clear she's just stalling and has pushed back the clock a whole fecking month. A month of additional uncertainty for everyone. Yet the Tories kept this idiot in charge to look after their jobs/party.
She's nothing to hide behind, it's clear she's just stalling and has pushed back the clock a whole fecking month. A month of additional uncertainty for everyone. Yet the Tories kept this idiot in charge to look after their jobs/party.
It hasn't stopped her so far.
She won't resign. At this rate we'll need the SAS to go into number 10 with stun grenades Libyan Embassy style to get her out.
I may be wrong but the whole point of the EU was probably to stop wars happening in Europe after WWII. I think that has worked but Brexit will and the pre Brexit state has created panic and disunity and is destabilising all or the EU. IMO the UK is committing economic harikari for ideas like the people will take back control of their country when in reality this is never going to happen. I mean you just need to look at the fall of the USSR to see this. I would predict that a few mega rich and entrepreneurial power hungry folk in positions of moderate authority will spring forward and claim wealth/power if the UK leaves and their economy goes pop. If this happens I will be very afraid because of the growth of extreme politics and nationalism across Europe at the moment. I hope I'm wrong.
No evil ever came from Austria
I think the English did have a policy of plantation though. The start of Braveheart and all that where they tried to breed out the locals.I'm just sorry she wasn't around in the 1920s during the Irish negotiations. We may have managed to get Wales and Scotland with York as a backstop.......
Western Europe is currently in it's longest period of peace since ancient Roman times. A lot of that can be attributed to the formation of the EU, so that is a good point for its existence.
We are mugs for allowing these people make decisions.
Could you find a larger picture please? I couldn't quite make out what it was.
Nice cat.
She'll string everything out as long as she possibly can.
She may be the worst PM in living memory but the candidates to replace her are somehow even worse.
Furthermore it won't make an iota of difference to the negotiations, you're not getting your cake or cherries.
Don't worry, you are wrong. The Brexit has been the best thing that happened to the EU for the last 30 years or so. Support for the EU is currently sky-high.
And I believe, that it will continue to be a blessing, for the EU. No matter how much left wing or right wing a politician in the EU is, no one will be eager to go through the "Theresa-May-Experience".
No, problem she will negotiate again and then take Brussels by storm.
Imagine a government having 2 years to put what they want clearly on paper yet you have comments like this coming out
delay the vote till late jan (I think 21st is the deadline)
present the vote as her deal or no deal and hope to get enough moderate MP's in line... possibly with the threat of a referendum of No deal or her deal if they don't vote it through
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And in the meantime companies will start triggering their emergency plans because they can’t wait until the last second.
Well yeah that was already her tactic but what I meant is now what for the country?
Without adequote opposition from those in her own party and labour i can certainly see this happening. She'll paint it as a party issue and any opposition to her deal as going against the will of the people.
The amendments when she brings it back will presumably be extension (might pass) revoke flat out (won't pass) and referendum (might just pass).
A no confidence vote will go in when she fails to get her deal passed and i reckon she'll lose with enough of the ERG supporting Labour in deluded hope they can do better with new red lines.
You couldn't be more wrong.
The politicians of extremist parties who try to undermine the EU, either for their own personal gain or for ideological reasons, are not the ones who lead countries through the experience.
Theresa May was a Remainer. When Boris Johnson could have stepped up to the plate to lead his party and country into the future he was advocating for, he shrunk away.
All they do is plant the seeds of discord and let the people who lead have to deal with the aftermath. They throw their hands up in the air, offer no leadership or workable solutions, yet they continue to sow discord form the back benches.
At lest that's the experience of Brexit so far.
In the one case so far where self-declared anti-EU politicians actually took the reigns themselves, the Syriza party in Greece, they chose to not do what they had for years been advocating. They chose to ignore the results of the referendum they themselves had called and had been clamouring for for years as an opposition party.
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