Another tosser.
All these guys fall into the classic research method trap where they only listen to and read anything that confirms their theory.
Redwood believes fervently that all swans are white, but he's never been to New Zealand.
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All these guys fall into the classic research method trap where they only listen to and read anything that confirms their theory.
Redwood believes fervently that all swans are white, but he's never been to New Zealand.
In what ways has the UK being in the EU been detrimental to your life? I assume it has been considerable given your views.
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What's the upside down question mark thing about then? Whatever it is it's stupid.
The Lib Dems are such joke.
The Uk will almost certainly not be a member of the EU on 30th March.
Just wondering what actual issues do you have with the EU which are factual and not just propaganda pushed?
Also decimating our economy would be 5% decrease it is predicted that brexit will cause a near 15-20 % decrease. Do you really thing that is small - medium? That would straight up mean millions lose jobs. Lastly it is logically not possible based on facts and evidence that the UK could ever get their economy back up to pre brexit levels if we left. So we would have less money regardless of how well we recover.
That’s a Spanish thing isn’t it. Bloody EU
If you ever feel pangs of sympathy for a Tory creeping up on you reach quickly for a copy of their voting record.
Theresa May is a cnut.
Probably some glitch from when it was copied over from David Schneiders twitter feed.
The EU has not, as far as I know, had any detrimental effects on my life, and may even have had some positive ones (in terms of convenience, and perhaps materially).
My objections to it are more political and philosophical. I don't see the EU's direction of travel as being compatible with my views of what a nation state should be, or my views on how we should be governed by democratic institutions that are accountable to the people they serve. To me, the economic arguments are secondary.
Apostrophes render like that in html sometimes.
Considering how many Tory MPs stood up and attacked May and her government over the last week there must be a lot within the 158 who have publically declared their support.
I'm fed up of this shit, on the one hand this is what would have happened if Corbyn had called a no confidence vote but at the same time i strongly feel this government can't continue. It's a farce that can't be resolved largely due to the backwards DUP
I'm fed up of this shit, on the one hand this is what would have happened if Corbyn had called a no confidence vote but at the same time i strongly feel this government can't continue. It's a farce that can't be resolved largely due to the backwards DUP
What views are these?
Thanks all. I must be getting paranoid because I thought it had some sort of 'clever' significance.
Here's hoping that if no deal does pass the consequences to you are anything but philosophic.
I wish I shared your confidence. I predict that the Article 50 declaration will be reversed by parliament quite early in the new year, initially on the pretext of allowing more time for negotiations (which is pointless), but in reality as a prelude for a second referendum.
I always laugh whenever a Tory scaremongers with the predictable ‘Jeremy Corbyn is the biggest threat to this country!’, all while they’re completely running the nation into the country and fragmenting it into utter chaos and division.
That's the problem, innit?
What you personally don't see is a fecking huge issue in reality.
This is the worst argument i have ever heard regarding brexit. Did you borrow it from Paul?
This is what happens when you become so far out of touch with voters. Did he do any research by talking to joe bloggs? No because he is a bellend.
Oh no, my horse lost in a 2 horse race, who'd have thought. What a wanker.
I don't see how A50 will be reversed. May will probably survive today but even if she didn't her replacement will probably be an arch Brexiter and the Tories will do anything rather than let Corbyn become PM.
“We Shall Fight Ourselves On The Beaches” Confirms May
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You do realise that there are more teenagers being killed in violent attack’s in London every year then in any other city in the rest of the uk right?
Northern Ireland might have a troubled past as you put it but we have a troubled present.
So really your answer is but but sovernty.........
So really you have no actual real except a vague thought of patriotism.
I can’t stand May for many reasons.
But if I was a Tory wanker - I’d still back her over the alternatives.
Think she’ll be fine.
But if I was a Tory wanker - I’d still back her over the alternatives.
Think she’ll be fine.
If she is offering to step down before the next election then she must be worried the vote tonight will be closer than people are assuming.
Yeah she gets sacked she can retire on her gold plated pension. This goes pear shaped I lose my job and if it’s as bad as it could be with no likelihood of finding another one.
I really feel sorry for her.
It's a huge sticking point and one the EU can use. Who wants to be responsible for putting back the hard border in NI?
Would you be prepared to dissolve the UK and lose Gibraltar in order to leave the EU? It would be much easier to leave if it was just England alone.
You want to view NI as a EU problem but it's an old UK English problem as well. You should check out the Poland Ukraine border.
I thought it was JRM.
Isn't it them trying to beat any comment filter, like when they do mus.lim?
I'm not sure the purpose of this thread is to completely reopen the debate on whether or not we should leave the EU, and most of us are probably quite fixed in our views on that anyway.
But to your question; -
- The EU is about further political integration. To be fair, it has never particularly tried to hide this, and it would have been known to anyone who took the time to look back in the early '70's when we chose to join (I wasn't old enough to vote then). UK style membership of the EU is now the exception rather than the rule: in theory at least all new members have to commit to joining the single currency at some point in the future. The UK isn't obligated to make such a commitment, but one result of that is that the EU will most likely gravitate towards being a two-tier organisation with those outside the Eurozone becoming increasingly marginalised. The Euro is the EUs main project precisely because it is seen as an irreversible step towards political integration. There is a very real danger that the UK would find itself having to pay to support this project even though it had no wish to be a part of it, and despite the fact that the existence of the Eurozone diminishes the UK's influence. It is therefore highly likely that we would in any case be faced eventually with a choice between leaving the EU and joining the Eurozone.
- In line with its objectives regarding integration, the EU is essentially a centrist organisation (i.e. decision making is concentrated at the centre). This is incompatible with the concept of independent nation states, and there have already been examples of the EU taking actions which conflict with the wishes of individual states (most obviously Greece). The Greek people did not give their assent to these actions, and indeed had voted in a government which had promised to do virtually the opposite of what the EU required (please note that this isn't a defence of Syriza policies, but rather a comment on the irrelevance of the democratic process to the EU). Large centrist organisations are not compatible with local democracy, particularly where there is such a divergence of interests across the member states. To make matters even worse, there seems to be very little opportunity for the populations of member states to exert influence over EU actions.
Come on, getting more interesting and farcical the closer we get to 29th March. There are plenty more amazing things , some which you couldn't possibly imagine, even now, which are sure to happen in the next three months or so.
*criticise the post not the poster*
*criticise the post not the poster*
*criticise the post not the poster*
Nope can't do it, I'm out
Even if NI did reunite with the Republic, it's not like the UK's problems with NI would suddenly go away. Aside from the fact that the UK's financial commitment to the region wouldn't immediately cease, they would also almost certainly have a vicious paramilitary conflict occuring miles from their border in which their government and citizens are heavily targeted. After all, the people of NI would also almost certainly remain UK citizens as well as being citizens of the new UI. The security implications (and costs) of a push for a United Ireland would be pretty damn bad from the UK's perspective.
See this is the problem. Most people are not informed on their beliefs. Most of the rules and regulations you would even bring up are fully in our control. We have full sovernty anyway. We make our own rules and laws. So what really is your point? Should we disband that united kingdom? Should we disband England and only have counties?
The only time a centralist organisation is bad is if it is actively making the states worse.
The post is utter shite. Not sure what that says about the poster...
The DUP would risk Corbyn getting into number 10? They basically see him as IRA Chief of Staff.
The DUP would risk Corbyn getting into number 10? They basically see him as IRA Chief of Staff.
Yeah that is not going to happen.