Someone said geronwuvit? Who was it?
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Someone said geronwuvit? Who was it?
If anyone knew the answer the whole thing would be a lot easier. Some other countries around the world have shipment hubs and customs pre-clearance so perhaps they will do that, with proof of clearance required to bring anything back to mainland UK. If they really are to avoid a hard border they have to figure something out.
I actually think there will be a border of some sort eventually, probably where Irish citizens can't be stopped. The EU and the UK as a whole are far more powerful in all this than Ireland/NI. If it's between breaking off a chunk of the UK or amending a 20 year old document i know which i'd bet on. People saying we cant amend the GFA. We're leaving the EU. This is nothing in comparison.
The Tories have been a disgrace for alot longer than May. Absolutely disgusting the mess they've got this country in to.
How anyone can vote for them is beyond me.
May in her speech just then.
Dad's army theme tune?
Who are 'they'?
You are mis-understanding the situation. It is the EU + NI vs the UK. Ireland is part of the EU and is being backed to the hilt by the EU - NI voted to remain and are being dragged kicking and screaming into BREXIT. The EU is much more powerful than the UK and they are on the side of Ireland and NI.
I'm not even going to start to try and explain the challenges about policing the border here because your explanation shows a complete lack of understanding. You at least admit you do not know the answer.
I think on all the head to head polling he wins if he gets to the last 2... But I think lack of cabinet experience plus prominence in the erg means he won't make the last 2
Probably can command around 40 to 50 no votes as a max... But in the 2nd or 3rd round switching his allegence and those votes to Boris or raab or Davies would probably make that person the clear brexiteer candidate... And no doubt a cushy cabinet position for mogg (chancellor or foreign office or trade?)
I suspect he will back Boris assuming he's bound to drop a bollock and mogg can then challenge with cabinet experience in a year or two
They don't need a Brexiteer to push them there when the MPs can reject the current deal and get there in 3 months time anyways. This is some misguided fantasy that someone can go to Brussels, tell the EU to kiss their ass and secure them a golden deal. Someone has to either be a madman or a sucker for humiliation to step into this void 3 months short of the deadline.
Reddit says that if she wins tonight then the DUP might support a Labour led VONC tomorrow. That would mean a GE if they lost that right?
Moog is a busted flush - he will rightly fade back into insignificance once this entire mess is over.
So glad the needs of the country are being put before party. Tories can feck right off.
Exactly - there is no new deal on offer, the best they can get is a slight change to some of the wording or an additional declaration with some clarifications - this is basically the deal and thats it.
Right back to peering over toilet stalls.
No... It would mean the conservatives have 21 days (I think... Might be 14?) To form a new government that commands majority... Basically force may to resign and get a hard brexit leader that the dup will back... Eg johnson
You can thank Labour for that.
What??
Fair enough.
The state of this world with Trump and Johnson at the forefront is terrifying. Comrade Vlad will be laughing his ass off.
Money well spent..
All it took was a couple dozen with bad English sitting in a decrepit building with old computers and dial up internet.
Or playing the headmaster's sausage jockey
It is possible may might try to go for a ge rather than resign
Gut feel though she would put party first and fall on her sword (entirely possible she gashes that up as well though given her incompetence to date)
They = the politicians who have to figure this out.
The EU's primary aim is to avoid an open back door into the UK. I think we'll see in time how much they care about the rest of it.
Yeah good post, Mogg could probably get one of the top jobs by supporting Boris or Gove.
Predictable deflection there.
Currently 2/1 for her to lose the VONC
I’m currently teetering on hoping she wins just because if the likes of BJ gets in then it’s full steam ahead regardless of cost to the country
'Things Can Only Get Better' would be good for a chuckle..
“The Only Way Is Up” or “Vindaloo”
That wasn't some defence of the Tories by the way.
It was reference to the fact that in spite of all that the Conservatives have said and done, a Corbyn-led Labour still doesn't convince the electorate.
Just chatting about the Tory shitshow in the office and conversation turned to the referendum. Receptionist piped up 'what do we even get from the EU for our money?' I started reeling off free movement, reciprocal healthcare, billions in trade, workers rights, statutory sick pay... She actually ran away when I asked her if she had received her annual tax statement as I just got mine and my EU contribution was less than £50 
Thankfully we're not a dictatorship. They won't be allowed to wreck the country.
It might get too close for comfort but i don't for a second believe under that under the threat of no deal that we wouldn't see alternative motions passed or even just an extension.
Was her being fecking useless at her job before the Brexit debacle kicked off also part of the play?
If so, when does the actor become consumed by the part they are playing?
I think you're right and also, the earth is flat, the Illuminati are real, and vaccinations are fake news.
Yeah, but the 'commands a majority' bit is going to be a significant problem.
BJ or anybody else would be unable to get a no-deal through the Commons anyway so I wouldn't worry.
The spirit of the GFA is that Ireland, as a whole, and separately, is entitled to self-determination. A large number of the population hold Irish/EU passports, and see themselves as Irish. Many unionists in the north want no hard border either, see the statements of the business community etc...
Seems like some Brexit people are only noticing now (that it has become a stone in their shoe) the Irish Peace Process and the various agreements brokered over the past half century. Peter Brooke: Britain has no "selfish strategic or economic interest" in Northern Ireland. Downing Street Declaration in 1993: "The British Government agree that it is for the people of the island of Ireland alone, by agreement between the two parts respectively, to exercise their right of self-determination on the basis of consent, freely and concurrently given, North and South, to bring about a united Ireland, if that is their wish".