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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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It's not really a surprise at this point, he doesn't really care about being in the EU.
 
RedSky said:
Sigh. He's burning all his support doing this. Frustrating as feck.
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What annoys me is that he won't come out honestly with his own opinion, he just hides behind the 'we've had a vote' line. When he's so determined to hide his true stance on the most important issue for generations how can we believe him on anything else?
 
Adisa said:
It's why his polling among people below 30 has tanked.
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Do you have a source for this? Not doubting it, but would be interesting to see by how it's down.
 
Jippy said:
Do you have a source for this? Not doubting it, but would be interesting to see by how it's down.
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I've seen two graphs on twitter in recent weeks showing it. One was a yougov poll. Will look for it.
 
Adisa said:
I've seen two graphs on twitter in recent weeks showing it. One was a yougov poll. Will look for it.
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Thanks. A friend whose mum knows him still thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. His stance (or lack thereof) on Brexit might help convince them otherwise.
 
Adisa said:
@Jippy spent the last five minutes combing through twitter. Only found one of them.
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That's great, thanks and cheers @Ubik and @Sweet Square.
Hmm, interesting. So basically the youth still hate the Tories, but the cult of Corbyn is dying down.

feck me though, how in the hell is May's stock risining in any cohort?
 
Jippy said:
That's great, thanks and cheers @Ubik and @Sweet Square.
Hmm, interesting. So basically the youth still hate the Tories, but the cult of Corbyn is dying down.

feck me though, how in the hell is May's stock risining in any cohort?
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I guess because some people look at the alternatives on offer and become a gibbering wreck.
 
Survation was one of the only polls that got close to the actual result in the last general election to be fair.
 
According to the BBC a decision will be made tomorrow whether UK citizens will need a visa to visit Europe in the event of No Deal.
 
horsechoker said:
According to the BBC a decision will be made tomorrow whether UK citizens will need a visa to visit Europe in the event of No Deal.
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oates and I were talking about this this morning - he pointed out that we never needed one before we were in the EU! Anyway, it's a ridiculous suggestion. UK citizens can even visit the USA with just an ESTA, which only takes 5 minutes to sort out.
 
Penna said:
oates and I were talking about this this morning - he pointed out that we never needed one before we were in the EU! Anyway, it's a ridiculous suggestion. UK citizens can even visit the USA with just an ESTA, which only takes 5 minutes to sort out.
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The ESTA is technically a Visa though, so even if it was something like that, then the answer is yes you need a visa.
 
Penna said:
oates and I were talking about this this morning - he pointed out that we never needed one before we were in the EU! Anyway, it's a ridiculous suggestion. UK citizens can even visit the USA with just an ESTA, which only takes 5 minutes to sort out.
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Only under certain circumstances. You still technically need a visa, people just don't notice because of the US visa waiver program for countries like the UK. It's also worth remembering that there is a long list of reasons why UK people are not allowed to use the visa waiver program including any criminal record at all, travel to a number of forbidden other countries and so on.
 
Just been watching All out Politics on Sky News - Brexiters still saying it's all Project Fear and going for the non-existent WTO Deal. Four and a half months to go and no hope whatsoever of the UK agreeing with itself on an outcome, nevermind with the EU. Insanity.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Just been watching All out Politics on Sky News - Brexiters still saying it's all Project Fear and going for the non-existent WTO Deal. Four and a half months to go and no hope whatsoever of the UK agreeing with itself on an outcome, nevermind with the EU. Insanity.
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The proof will be in the chlorinated pudding.
 
The brexiteers have a terrific use of language.
"WTO deal", it's ingenious.
 
Gordon Brown at the Institute for Government

Q: What sort of new measures would you introduce on immigration?

Brown says the UK is proposing “point control” as a way of handling immigration after Brexit. People won’t think that amounts to real change.

But other EU countries impose measures despite free movement, he says. For example, jobs have to be advertised locally. Migrants can be required to register. Or they can be required to leave if they don’t find a job.

He says the UK government has not adopted measures like this, even though they are allowed under freedom of movement.

If these things were known in 2016, there would have been a “very different” debate in the referendum.

  • Brown says EU referendum would have been “very different” if UK government had imposed migration measures allowed under free movement
Well what more is there to say. Heads in the sand.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Gordon Brown at the Institute for Government

Q: What sort of new measures would you introduce on immigration?

Brown says the UK is proposing “point control” as a way of handling immigration after Brexit. People won’t think that amounts to real change.

But other EU countries impose measures despite free movement, he says. For example, jobs have to be advertised locally. Migrants can be required to register. Or they can be required to leave if they don’t find a job.

He says the UK government has not adopted measures like this, even though they are allowed under freedom of movement.

If these things were known in 2016, there would have been a “very different” debate in the referendum.

  • Brown says EU referendum would have been “very different” if UK government had imposed migration measures allowed under free movement
Well what more is there to say. Heads in the sand.
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To be fair it's probably the best reason for Brexit. British people can't trust their politicians to know or apply the publicly available rules of a common market. So logically they shouldn't let them work in a common market.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Gordon Brown at the Institute for Government

Q: What sort of new measures would you introduce on immigration?

Brown says the UK is proposing “point control” as a way of handling immigration after Brexit. People won’t think that amounts to real change.

But other EU countries impose measures despite free movement, he says. For example, jobs have to be advertised locally. Migrants can be required to register. Or they can be required to leave if they don’t find a job.

He says the UK government has not adopted measures like this, even though they are allowed under freedom of movement.

If these things were known in 2016, there would have been a “very different” debate in the referendum.

  • Brown says EU referendum would have been “very different” if UK government had imposed migration measures allowed under free movement
Well what more is there to say. Heads in the sand.
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This isn't news, I've known this for years. I'm not sure what his point is really.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Gordon Brown at the Institute for Government

Q: What sort of new measures would you introduce on immigration?

Brown says the UK is proposing “point control” as a way of handling immigration after Brexit. People won’t think that amounts to real change.

But other EU countries impose measures despite free movement, he says. For example, jobs have to be advertised locally. Migrants can be required to register. Or they can be required to leave if they don’t find a job.

He says the UK government has not adopted measures like this, even though they are allowed under freedom of movement.

If these things were known in 2016, there would have been a “very different” debate in the referendum.

  • Brown says EU referendum would have been “very different” if UK government had imposed migration measures allowed under free movement
Well what more is there to say. Heads in the sand.
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The government and the people that prop it up have a vested interest in cheap labour. They also have a vested interest in deregulation and tax avoidance. #Brexit
 
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