He just cannot stop lying. People did not know what they voted for, back then he was not saying what he's saying now. Furthermore, even today they still do not know what they voted for because until it smacks them fully in the face on 30th March 2019 reality won't dawn on them.
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He just cannot stop lying. People did not know what they voted for, back then he was not saying what he's saying now. Furthermore, even today they still do not know what they voted for because until it smacks them fully in the face on 30th March 2019 reality won't dawn on them.
Again, you're speculating that there wont be a deal or an extension of talks.
May just said it's either Chequers or no deal - everyone apart from the government knows Chequers has been dead for ages, thus according to May there is only one option.
You could extend the talks for years but it's not going to solve the Irish border problem.
Why do people think there will be an extension of talks or that there will be a second referendum or that there will be a general election. Brits think everything revolves around them.
The EU moves on early next year, new elections , new budget , new commission, new president with or without the UK, they're not waiting for the UK to make their mind up. They've got a few weeks left.
The fact you are questioning 30th March means that even you are expecting something, Brexiters say they know what they voted for, out means out, if out means out it's crashing out but if they want a deal they're expecting something more thus they didn't know what they voted for.
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We are fecked.
For anyone who does not have an idea why so many want us to leave, look at Sajid Javid's ides post brexit.
As for Farage, another charlatan propagating the illusion of independence.
As for Farage, another charlatan propagating the illusion of independence.
As an aside, I was just sorting out some old papers which I intend to burn and came across my old passport issued in 1986, looks black to me.
I can't stand Farage. His deflection away from Piers' question regarding Hungary's leader towards Labour and the accusations of anti-antisemitism was pathetic.
Really was. I can't believe some are not smart enough to see through his bullshit.
It less of them not seeing it and more of them agreeing with it. There's a least 35% of the uk population since Brexit(Although it's been building since the late 2000's) that has taken a quite big turn to the far right.
I can tell you what I am not expecting, I am not expecting mad max and locusts to appear. I am not expecting people to be rounded up and bundled on to trains and sent away, that's been done before.
So you're not expecting an apocalypse or a holocaust.
That really narrows it down.
I'm not expecting that either, nor is anyone else I would imagine, but if there is no deal life will start to become different for people in the UK.
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-rover-staff-will-go-to-three-day-week-brexit
Reminds me of my youth, the good old days of the early 70s.
The chief executive of the sector’s trade body, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), warned this year that auto firms were not ready for this scenario, with the official exit date of 29 March 2019 looming.
Asked if there were any potential Brexit benefits for the British automotive industry, which has a combined annual turnover of £82bn, he said: “Not that we can see.”
Reminds me of my youth, the good old days of the early 70s.
The chief executive of the sector’s trade body, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), warned this year that auto firms were not ready for this scenario, with the official exit date of 29 March 2019 looming.
Asked if there were any potential Brexit benefits for the British automotive industry, which has a combined annual turnover of £82bn, he said: “Not that we can see.”
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Sadly many of those that aren't UKIP voters nor Farage fans still agree by and large with the shit the spews out of his mouth on a regular basis.
People are idiots and we've fecked ourselves good and proper.
Made the mistake of reading the comments on one of the BBC's Brexit articles. It's like a thousand Stanley Roads.
The border problem has to be solved there as well as in Ireland. Also over 95% of people from Gibraltar voted to Remain, imagine how happy they are.
Pls stop demeaning people...
Democracy is fine when results are going their way, but with Brexit and Trump people have suddenly become ‘stupid’
‘People’s vote’ has me 
As if anyone would’ve considered another vote if Remain had won, even if Leavers had said ‘let’s keep asking the country before we integrate even more’ etc etc
As if anyone would’ve considered another vote if Remain had won, even if Leavers had said ‘let’s keep asking the country before we integrate even more’ etc etc
I suppose I had it in my head that you have to go through a physical border check on the edge of the runway to get into and out of Gibraltar whereas I've not got a clue what the Irish border system is like.
Didn't cross my mind about the trade parities and checking lorries and such like the potential Irish border problems.
Both of those things were stupid though. The UK was stupid to vote in favor of Brexit, and the US was stupid to vote for Trump.
The ''smartest'' option the Remain campaign could do is just call it a second referendum and to be honest about viewing as a chance to right a wrong. feck knows if it would work(And personally I couldn't care as I tend to hate both sides of this argument)but at least people would know their being honest. The ''People's vote'' really is the shittiest and slimiest backhanded thing they could do and if they were to go ahead with this type of condensing argument then they'll deserve to lose.‘People’s vote’ has me
As if anyone would’ve considered another vote if Remain had won, even if Leavers had said ‘let’s keep asking the country before we integrate even more’ etc etc
People weren't ''tricked'' by a big red bus or Russian bots, they voted for a political/economic change and.........to kick all the immigrates out.
You come back to me next April and tell me if what has happened was what you voted for.
Did you vote to break the Good Friday Agreement - oh you did
Did you vote to stop your driving licence or your insurance being valid in Europe ?
Did you vote to stop planes flying?
Because if there is no agreement/deal this is what will happen and as Brexiters don't even want a deal, that's exactly what they voted for.
I can give you a thousand more examples if you want.
I agree that the people who voted for Brexit or Trump did not suddenly become stupid.
‘People’s vote’ has me
As if anyone would’ve considered another vote if Remain had won, even if Leavers had said ‘let’s keep asking the country before we integrate even more’ etc etc
Farage himself said if remain won he’d push for another vote. Barefaced hypocrites.
End of the day, if Leavers think Brexit is going to be so great, why are they afraid of another vote?
I think the key question here is: if there were a second referendum, would people vote differently?
I genuinely think it'd be at least 60-40 in favor of Remain now because everyone's been able to see how much of a mess Brexit will be.
I genuinely think it'd be at least 60-40 in favor of Remain now because everyone's been able to see how much of a mess Brexit will be.
Pls continue re AFD, Hungarian, Swedish, Polish, French etc right-wing votes.
Demeaning is so stupid and counter productive. At least wonder WHY...
Most Brexit voters wont realise it then unless the Mail/Sun tells them. Even then it would have to be a big bold headline at the top of the page.
So the argument is different here. It’s about whether the Govt is able to EXECUTE what is, a very simple proposition (of leaving the EU and it’s control over us). Most of the planet lives outside of it, so it IS achievable (albeit with bumps across the way).
That's the thing that's ridiculous, apparently having another vote when people are much more informed of what a post Brexit Britain will look like is undemocratic.
The whole thing has become a complete shit show and surely the reason Brexiteers are so resistant to another vote, whatever you call it, is because the scenario they would put forward to the public (I suspect there won't be a deal) would be terrible.
My argument is not about whether the UK can or cannot leave the EU. It is that those who voted for Brexit understand exactly what they voted for and all the consequences that involves . I'm not even saying that the decision should be overturned.
Other points, most of the planet does live outside the EU but also have agreements and deals with other countries and quite a few agreements with the EU, they are not alone. Please do not say WTO deal.
The UK will have no deals on 30th March. Nothing will be in place on anything.
I do not see how the UK will survive the disruption intact and how they can recover thereafter.
At the moment May is proposing one thing which is different from before and Mogg is proposing another and there are probably thousands of different versions in people's heads.
Which is the one that Brexiters voted for, after all they know what they voted for, or did they?
And Europeans. They have very little idea of what Brexit will mean to them cos they pay less interest than anyone in the UK, that's why they ask me all the time instead of asking their own mep's or govt. They don't know that they are unable to book a flight from AMS to LON for next April. They are ignorant to it all, they think that non of it will affect them.
This only applies mind if uk becomes north korea as you keep telling us it is going to. Maybe, like me, they think not much will change. If that's the case, we can redefine who the real idiots are / were.
There isn't a single person on the planet that can tell you exactly what leaving the eu looks like, it has never happened, there is no historic data to look back on.
Do people genuinely think the 2016 referendum was a blank cheque endorsement for whatever deal the government end up getting?
Close ties with EU, terms same as customs union and single market?
Yep, that's what we voted for
Not close ties with EU, terms same as customs union but outside the single market?
Yep, we voted for that
Not close ties with the EU, not same terms as customs union but inside single market?
Yep, we voted for that too
How about no close ties with EU and leaving customs union and single market completely without a deal?
We voted for that as well!
It's getting to the point where arguing against a second referendum on the basis that you think we endorsed any outcome of the negotiations 3 years before they concluded, is starting to look pretty moronic.
Close ties with EU, terms same as customs union and single market?
Yep, that's what we voted for
Not close ties with EU, terms same as customs union but outside the single market?
Yep, we voted for that
Not close ties with the EU, not same terms as customs union but inside single market?
Yep, we voted for that too
How about no close ties with EU and leaving customs union and single market completely without a deal?
We voted for that as well!
It's getting to the point where arguing against a second referendum on the basis that you think we endorsed any outcome of the negotiations 3 years before they concluded, is starting to look pretty moronic.
Only Paul, who has decided every single person voted for option #4
Most people in Europe I would guess have little interest in Brexit, certainly no-one I know who is not English except the odd "Brexit, hahahaha, those English are mad".
Most of them won't be affected by it.
To have the flights working there has to be an agreement and since no-one has a clue what the UK want, it becomes difficult to come to an agreement.
If May had said from the early days of negotiations what they want without the stupid posturing and cherry picking, talks would be far further forward.
And here we are 6 months before the UK leave and still she's trying to cherry pick and the whole world except her knows it is not going to work.
I agree it sounds insane that it could come to that, but has anything been remotely sane in the last couple of years.
Sticking ones head in the sand and hoping the Irish border problem will magically disappear is not really a sensible strategy.
Supposedly every single Brexiteer voted for the same thing and they knew what it was, which one was it?
That's just the thing, they will be affected by something as simple as trying to book a visit to the uk today, for next april onwards. They pay no interest cos they don't think they will be affected.
Or like me, they think sensibility will win the day.
You would hope people being sensible would win the day.
People in Europe will be affected to varying degrees but for most people it would be a mild inconvenience at worst. A relatively small number will obviously be affected much more seriously .