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Massive Spanner said:
But they're all in the Schengen which is basically the same as the CTA isn't it? I know there are "borders" but isn't that more so the countries themselves enforcing them?
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But they're also in the EEA - it's not just people, it's goods, services, jurisdiction etc. The UK don't want to be in the CU or the EEA or Schengen and want to control their borders. The UK can't have it all ways.
Some special offer will be made but will the UK accept and not break the GFA?
 
JPRouve said:
Here you have your answer, if you look at CETA:
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Thanks!

Though CETA was signed after Brexit referendum, a contingency paragraph had to be written, but I imagine that is in every trade deal
 
4bars said:
Thanks!

Though CETA was signed after Brexit referendum, a contingency paragraph had to be written, but I imagine that is in every trade deal
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It's not a contingency paragraph. Every trade deal will specify the geographical scope, the important part in the quote is the language, the EU isn't predetermined for obvious reasons.
 
JPRouve said:
It's not a contingency paragraph. Every trade deal will specify the geographical scope, the important part in the quote is the language, the EU isn't predetermined for obvious reasons.
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I wasn't saying it was a contingency paragraph, I meant it could be (if the other trade deals didn't have it). But yes, I am sure you are 100% right
 
Today's bombshells. Bad for UK:
Panasonic to move Europe headquarters from UK to Amsterdam
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45351288

Panasonic will move its European headquarters from the UK to Amsterdam in October as Brexit approaches.

The aim is to avoid potential tax issues linked to the UK's decision to leave the EU, said Panasonic Europe's chief executive Laurent Abadie.

In the run-up to March 2019, a number of multinational firms have said they plan to move jobs out of the UK.

Several Japanese financial companies have said they intend to move their main EU bases away from London.

Panasonic's decision was driven by a fear that Japan could start considering the UK a tax haven if it cuts corporate tax rates to attract business, Mr Abadie told the Nikkei Asian Review newspaper.
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Good for UK?
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/0830/988435-france-ready-to-agree-eu-deal-with-uk-after-brexit/

A new Continental structure would see "concentric circles" with the EU and Euro at its core and the UK in a second ring, according to the newspaper.

The claims emerged after the EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier struck an optimistic tone, stating: "We are prepared to offer Britain a partnership such as there never has been with any other third country."

The comments helped trigger a sharp rise for sterling on the money markets.
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Regardless of the Macron story, I expect many more companies to move because why would they stay and take the risk? The tax haven issue angle is surely worrying.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
But they're also in the EEA - it's not just people, it's goods, services, jurisdiction etc. The UK don't want to be in the CU or the EEA or Schengen and want to control their borders. The UK can't have it all ways.
Some special offer will be made but will the UK accept and not break the GFA?
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That's sort of the point though, isn't it? I'm not sure what EFTA has to do with things here when those countries are all in a much closer trading bloc with the EU. If there's one thing the EU won't budge on it's the border imo. They'll tell the UK they need to be in the EEA for it, end of. Ultimately it's their strongest bargaining chip because quite clearly the UK know they are completely f*cked with a hard border.
 
One of my mates at Allianz in Guildford says the company hasn't employed any permanent staff apart from him since, the day this country voted to Leave the EU.
 
Massive Spanner said:
That's sort of the point though, isn't it? I'm not sure what EFTA has to do with things here when those countries are all in a much closer trading bloc with the EU. If there's one thing the EU won't budge on it's the border imo. They'll tell the UK they need to be in the EEA for it, end of. Ultimately it's their strongest bargaining chip because quite clearly the UK know they are completely f*cked with a hard border.
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Yes totally agree.
I was only talking about EFTA members because another poster brought them up as having a special relationship with EU whilst not being an actual EU member.
 
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Adisa said:
One of my mates at Allianz in Guildford says the company hasn't employed any permanent staff apart from him since, the day this country voted to Leave the EU.
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I remember having a conference call with one of the Finance directors of Airbus Industries the day after the Brexit vote and they said that it had effectively just cancelled over £340m of investment overnight in the UK because of the vote with additional uncertainty now about what presence they would keep in the country.

The true cost of this ridiculous decision will be beyond calculation I think. Countless organisations will gradually move their HQ's to within the EU homelands and this will be what grabs the headlines, but this is small beer compared to the reduction in investment we have already suffered and will continue to suffer for generations.

Well done to the Tory Party. Your lack of investment in manufacturing, technology and training threw most of the North of England onto the scrap heap in the 80's, but we rose up and re-trained in software and financial services.

Now you have managed to screw the whole country with Brexit we can expect you to finally sell off the last of the family silver / the lower field so you can keep the crumbling Country House looking good for Trumps next visit
 
357 staff have left the Department for Exiting the European Union in just two years.

665 were initially employed at the Whitehall department.

The average age of those left is 32.

God help us all.
 
A swindle Malcolm McClaren would be proud of.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Just tell us one genuine tangible advantage of leaving, anything that we can hold on to?

We know our country will be destroyed but...there's nothing, nothing at all.
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In the event that the EU ends up falling apart in a few years time, you'll look like visionaries.
 
2cents said:
In the event that the EU ends up falling apart in a few years time, you'll look like visionaries.
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And if it doesn't the UK will look like self destructive idiots. I know which option my money would be on.
 
Sassy Colin said:
Just tell us one genuine tangible advantage of leaving, anything that we can hold on to?

We know our country will be destroyed but...there's nothing, nothing at all.
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Not that many clear advantages really. Depends how we leave. Either way you won’t be governed by the disproportionately white EU parliament so it’s a step forward in terms of racial equality.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
You really have to wonder what the 970k who've switched to Leave are seeing to make them change their minds
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People who think it more important to get on with it and honour the vote i guess. Baffling but that does seem to be a strong sentiment.

I'm a bit dissapointed by this Tony Blair group that was supposed to be launching a media campaign against it. It hasn't really happened has it?
 
Sassy Colin said:
Just tell us one genuine tangible advantage of leaving, anything that we can hold on to?

We know our country will be destroyed but...there's nothing, nothing at all.
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We'll surely be healthier with the 350 Million a week extra funding promised by Johnson and Gove?
 
Smores said:
People who think it more important to get on with it and honour the vote i guess. Baffling but that does seem to be a strong sentiment.

I'm a bit dissapointed by this Tony Blair group that was supposed to be launching a media campaign against it. It hasn't really happened has it?
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It’s because Blair is grossly unpopular and 75% of tories follow his principles so there’s no room for him
 
Its all just immigration and "I don't want to be dictated to" when I speak to brexit voters.

My dad is scared of some sort of German takeover of Europe as if he thinks Merkel is finishing what Hitler started. Then in the next breath he's sticking up for Trump, y'know that actual wannabe Nazi dictator.

I just don't understand them at all, there's no getting through to um. We'll be blummin begging for immigrants the way things are going.
 
Smores said:
People who think it more important to get on with it and honour the vote i guess. Baffling but that does seem to be a strong sentiment.

I'm a bit dissapointed by this Tony Blair group that was supposed to be launching a media campaign against it. It hasn't really happened has it?
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I thought that might be part of it. It's bizarre though.

It's like someone starts sawing your leg off, then they stop and dither for 2 years and your reaction is "Well, better just get on with it" and you start sawing your own leg off.
 
If the internet had been around when they were abolishing slavery, do you think the same idiots would be piping up about the sanctimony of the free slaves movement?
 
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