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What led to austerity?
the crash in 08
And years of pissing through money beforehand.
Neoliberalism
Saw this yesterday. Sounds like a non news story.
In latest developments - Germany aren't offering a deal.
Technically we have not had austerity in that the nation has spent more than it has earned every year since the crash.
Bingo
Fed up with austerity, let's vote for another economic crash, not worldwide, just British, that should solve the problems.
It's on it's way.
Possibly yeah although what happen of the crash was never about necessary belt tightening because we spent to much on hospitals which was how it was framed. We really could go back to giving finance huge amounts of power and destroying industrial work force.
I think we used the word austerity in the UK as a way to link together what happens in Europe but as Varoufakis points out what is happening in Britain is actually Class war e.g. attack on the welfare state etc.
It's on a par with "Brexit was a protest vote against the government" - so I know, we'll vote for them again in 2015 so we can protest against them and further more we'll vote for them again in 2017. Brexit logic I presume.
I really hope for a brexit where free movement of people is retained in exchange for the customs union. It'd piss the racists right off.
Would be hilarious given that a large amount of people voted to leave purely because of this reason.
Tory logic more like
It's not the habitual Tory voters, they'll always vote Tory. It's the people who voted UKIP or Labour or Liberal previously who then voted Tory.
Blair got in with a massive majority in 1997. That was a protest vote against the Tories.
Then we get into the thing of Democrats promoting home ownership, Republicans deregulating banks so they can lend more freely and kaboom. Just a broad political breakdown.
They really didn't have a choice.
Then what is Brexit? Those are the two vital cogs of the leave argument. You might gain some control over deregulation and get to negotiate a gazillion new trade deals but it looks like a worse outcome than something countries like Norway receive while being part of the EU.
Brexit has broken this country.
What a shit show.
Whereby we simultaneously completely destroy the main selling point of Brexit and annihlate any leverage we would otherwise have for a trade agreement. fecking tremendous.
I'm a remainer, I don't want to see a Brexit.
It's peak Brexit innit. Everyone loses.
Ed Milliband eating a bacon sandwich wrong.
Yeah but “we all lose toogevar”
Britain all over. You don't see this ridiculous shit in most countries. Our tabloids have a lot to answer for.
Our tabloids want you to vote Tory.
Will. Of. The. People!
From Barnier’s piece:
From very beginning every sane person could have told you as much (given the red lines) yet UK politicians keep deluding themselves still long after the referendum.
From very beginning every sane person could have told you as much (given the red lines) yet UK politicians keep deluding themselves still long after the referendum.
Would kill the manufacturing sector and a lot of services.
Right wing economic ideology
False
It was really a need to grow up economically, you can't borrow forever, and pass it on to the next generation. Who do you think will ever repay national debt? Or do you think it makes sense to just grow it and pass it on again to future generations? Kick the can down the road as our American peers would say.
You can actually borrow forever
You only need someone stupid enough to lend you
But nah, technically, in a none infinite resources world, you can't
Even my most ardent labour supporting friends would dispute you here. A high-earning Labour voting colleague was appalled that he was getting some weird £100 allowance cos his wife was pregnant. It was a total waste of government money.
My mother used to be an administrator in the NHS- I've heard the stories of pissing away several grands' worth of office furniture in March to get the same or more next year.
No, borrowing for growth is a common act. As long as your debts eventually start to shrink as a proportion of your GDP you need never pay them back