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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Not as interesting as the mental gymnastics from the people who constantly refer to a poll of Labour members re: Brexit on why he should ignore Labour Vauxhall members.
What are you on about? You seem to be immediately on the defensive as soon as someone mentions Corbyn. Are you not interested in seeing how he deals with it?
 
What does he have to deal with? It's an issue for the local party and the NEC. I'd be amazed if he even talks about it.
She voted against the whip and has lost a vote of confidence by her local labour party. Forgive me, i thought the Labour leader would be interested in such goings on.
 
Interesting to see how Corbyn plays this one..

Interesting to see how the media plays it too considering they've been scaremongering about deselections for the last 2 years. I guess this one is fine as they dislike her
 
She voted against the whip and has lost a vote of confidence by her local labour party. Forgive me, i thought the Labour leader would be interested in such goings on.
I imagine if you get anything at all, it'll be along the lines of The local party members are entitled to their opinion on the person representing their party and have used the correct party procedures to express that opinion. The matter is now for the NEC to deal with.

Saying that, given how Hoey got the job in the first place, it would be funny if he got involved just to see her head explode from trying to deal with the double standard of her inevitable complaints.
 
I imagine if you get anything at all, it'll be along the lines of The local party members are entitled to their opinion on the person representing their party and have used the correct party procedures to express that opinion. The matter is now for the NEC to deal with.

Saying that, given how Hoey got the job in the first place, it would be funny if he got involved just to see her head explode from trying to deal with the double standard of her inevitable complaints.
What do you think the NEC should do about it? Should she be deselcted?
 
Watched that May answer to what she likes doing in her spare time again. Jesus Christ. She can't even answer that question properly without struggling. How is she supposed to negotiate anything?
No wonder she wouldn't go up against Corbyn.
 
I think it's similar to how under Miliband the party never defended its record in government and allowed the 'Labour broke the economy' narrative to take hold. Eventually it became 'fact'. A proposition unopposed will do that. By the time Labour got around to recognising the need to actually fight back against that narrative/lie it was too late, there was no reversing it. With Brexit nobody really opposed the Farage/nutjob narrative that Brexit was an "overwhelming" vote for a hard Brexit where we'd leave the CM/CU and feck ourselves, generally, up the arse. So that's what Brexit means now, even those who didn't vote for that kind of Brexit now think they did as they've been told for 2 years they did and very few people have challenged that narrative.

If the day of the referendum there were calls for a national debate on the future relationship things might be different but nobody who mattered (or who wouldn't be dismissed) made that point. It was utter capitulation to the hard right, UKIP wet dream which cannot realistically be reversed. Suggest that people didn't vote to shoot themselves in the face they'll scream back that they absolutely did.

Yes, exactly. You could see that the narrative had built up steadily and by the time the 2015 election came around, it was too late for Labour to do anything. The Tories did a great job with their propaganda that they are the better party for handling the economy and that Labour are reckless. It was painful to see Miliband get absolutely hammered by the Question Time audience in Leeds about spending before and during the financial crisis.
 
First of all, concern about immigration being a drain on resources (whether or not it's valid) is not the same thing as racism.

If they were moaning about how the immigrants aren't integrating into British culture and bringing with them cultural norms that are bad for society then yes, that's pretty close to racism. And this is definitely happening too. It's an incredibly simplistic view (which mozza is prone to, with his stream of pithy one liners) to lump all the different concerns about immigration (and all the different people expressing them) into one big, amorphous, racist bunch of people. Which is not to say that there aren't a whole load of racists in amongst that bunch of people because there obviously is.

Apart from anything else, there's already been data in this thread showing that a lot of POC voted Leave, presumably because of these concerns about unchecked immigration. How are they being racist, exactly? And to whom?
I'd say they're being racist, to other immigrants. Being a POC doesn't absolve you from being racist. Speaking as a British Asian, in my opinion, any British Asian who voted to leave purely so Britain would have less European immigration and more immigration from Asia is a fecking moron and racist.
 
Delivery by Boris on a zip wire?

I'm a Type 1 insulin dependant diabetic, I have no concerns with a no deal brexit, countries traded pre EU, not sure what the fuss is about, and btw artificial insulin isn't produced only in the EU.
 
I'm a Type 1 insulin dependant diabetic, I have no concerns with a no deal brexit, countries traded pre EU, not sure what the fuss is about, and btw artificial insulin isn't produced only in the EU.
Expect UK doesn’t have currently any infrastructure in place for “pre-eu” scenario from ports/borders/checks/handling of massive queues to legalities like regulation/licensing and this certainly won’t get done by the March next year, you get that don’t you? Your insuline is currently delivered to local agencies on just-in-time basis.

There will obviously be disturbances to regular supply chains, you’re confident in this gov. to be prepared for all these possible implications the second country leaves the EU?

You should demand answers and not rely on this inept gov by simply asserting to the notion that “well countries somehow traded before the EU”.
 
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Brexiteers demand no deal.
Government prepare for no deal.
Brexiteers accuse government of project fear II.
 
Good news for people who are sick of the BBC inviting IEA members on to spout their bollocks. They're just about to forget about their existence for a few days.



Oh god that sounds terrible.
 
Doesn't matter what you or I think of Corbyn. This government must be removed.
 
My two-year fixed mortgage is up in May, so assume i can consider remortgaging in the New Year. Should I be trying to lock down a fixed interest rate for as long as possible, or are we more likely to see rate decreases if Brexit tanks the economy?