balaks
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Looks like Kate Hoey is fecked.
About bloody time. She is a disgrace.
Looks like Kate Hoey is fecked.
Not as interesting as the mental gymnastics from the people who constantly refer to a poll of Labour members re: Brexit on why he should ignore Labour Vauxhall members.Interesting to see how Corbyn plays this one..
Kicked out of the partyPolitics has so many weird, arcane terms. What does it actually mean if Labour "remove the whip" from Hoey?
It's the party saying they don't consider the MP in question to be accountable to them.Politics has so many weird, arcane terms. What does it actually mean if Labour "remove the whip" from Hoey?
Kicked out of the party
Welcome to the 18th centuryThanks. Such an odd way to describe it!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/27/eu-brexit-weimar-britain
Just saw this ridiculous article in the Guardian.
The EU must give into Britain or else.
What are you on about? You seem to be immediately on the defensive as soon as someone mentions Corbyn. Are you not interested in seeing how he deals with it?Not as interesting as the mental gymnastics from the people who constantly refer to a poll of Labour members re: Brexit on why he should ignore Labour Vauxhall members.
What does he have to deal with? It's an issue for the local party and the NEC. I'd be amazed if he even talks about it.What are you on about? You seem to be immediately on the defensive as soon as someone mentions Corbyn. Are you not interested in seeing how he deals with it?
She voted against the whip and has lost a vote of confidence by her local labour party. Forgive me, i thought the Labour leader would be interested in such goings on.What does he have to deal with? It's an issue for the local party and the NEC. I'd be amazed if he even talks about it.
Interesting to see how Corbyn plays this one..
I imagine if you get anything at all, it'll be along the lines of The local party members are entitled to their opinion on the person representing their party and have used the correct party procedures to express that opinion. The matter is now for the NEC to deal with.She voted against the whip and has lost a vote of confidence by her local labour party. Forgive me, i thought the Labour leader would be interested in such goings on.
What do you think the NEC should do about it? Should she be deselcted?I imagine if you get anything at all, it'll be along the lines of The local party members are entitled to their opinion on the person representing their party and have used the correct party procedures to express that opinion. The matter is now for the NEC to deal with.
Saying that, given how Hoey got the job in the first place, it would be funny if he got involved just to see her head explode from trying to deal with the double standard of her inevitable complaints.
If the local party want someone else representing them, which it certainly seems so looking at the vote, absolutely. That view applies for all MPs. Hoey is more than free to do a Simon Danczuk and run as an independent (and almost certainly would).What do you think the NEC should do about it? Should she be deselcted?
I think it's similar to how under Miliband the party never defended its record in government and allowed the 'Labour broke the economy' narrative to take hold. Eventually it became 'fact'. A proposition unopposed will do that. By the time Labour got around to recognising the need to actually fight back against that narrative/lie it was too late, there was no reversing it. With Brexit nobody really opposed the Farage/nutjob narrative that Brexit was an "overwhelming" vote for a hard Brexit where we'd leave the CM/CU and feck ourselves, generally, up the arse. So that's what Brexit means now, even those who didn't vote for that kind of Brexit now think they did as they've been told for 2 years they did and very few people have challenged that narrative.
If the day of the referendum there were calls for a national debate on the future relationship things might be different but nobody who mattered (or who wouldn't be dismissed) made that point. It was utter capitulation to the hard right, UKIP wet dream which cannot realistically be reversed. Suggest that people didn't vote to shoot themselves in the face they'll scream back that they absolutely did.
I'd say they're being racist, to other immigrants. Being a POC doesn't absolve you from being racist. Speaking as a British Asian, in my opinion, any British Asian who voted to leave purely so Britain would have less European immigration and more immigration from Asia is a fecking moron and racist.First of all, concern about immigration being a drain on resources (whether or not it's valid) is not the same thing as racism.
If they were moaning about how the immigrants aren't integrating into British culture and bringing with them cultural norms that are bad for society then yes, that's pretty close to racism. And this is definitely happening too. It's an incredibly simplistic view (which mozza is prone to, with his stream of pithy one liners) to lump all the different concerns about immigration (and all the different people expressing them) into one big, amorphous, racist bunch of people. Which is not to say that there aren't a whole load of racists in amongst that bunch of people because there obviously is.
Apart from anything else, there's already been data in this thread showing that a lot of POC voted Leave, presumably because of these concerns about unchecked immigration. How are they being racist, exactly? And to whom?
Delivery by Boris on a zip wire?
Expect UK doesn’t have currently any infrastructure in place for “pre-eu” scenario from ports/borders/checks/handling of massive queues to legalities like regulation/licensing and this certainly won’t get done by the March next year, you get that don’t you? Your insuline is currently delivered to local agencies on just-in-time basis.I'm a Type 1 insulin dependant diabetic, I have no concerns with a no deal brexit, countries traded pre EU, not sure what the fuss is about, and btw artificial insulin isn't produced only in the EU.
Good news for people who are sick of the BBC inviting IEA members on to spout their bollocks. They're just about to forget about their existence for a few days.