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Hm, shit's really hitting the fan. And while I am sure the Brexiters think they have played a blinder (and it might turn out they have), this event could also become a rallying cry for remain.

We might end up having to make the same choice again (instead of deciding on how we leave) which might mean a reversal of the original outcome. It would be ironic if the moronic and selfish pricks that started this mess end up destroying their pet project due to their fanaticism, arrogance and most of all unwillingness to compromise.
 
Ramshock said:
This is what we have to put up with in the north. This man is happy his party is costing NI money and jobs so they can have a hard border again. @balaks

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It would give me enormous pleasure to punch that man repeatedly. On your point about what the DUP think - they simply do not believe there will ever be a united Ireland, they have said as much so I don't think they are giving it a second thought. They believe that if NI deviates in any way from the rest of the UK in BREXIT terms that this will weaken the union. Of course they are more than happy for NI to not follow the rest of the UK on social matters that they believe in such as equal marriage, etc. It's infuriating.
 
Usual suspects on social media have been attacking those who dared to agree with Anna Soubury's speech yesterday more vociferously and with more passion than they've ever employed whilst opposing the government's actual Brexit plans themselves.
 
I doubt if this electoral fraud story is going to end up being that important. It's difficult when both front benches seem intent on at worst ignoring it and at best not really taking that much of an interest in it. Back-bench Labour and Tory MPs will push it, journalists will cover it, campaigners will seek to draw attention to it, but aside from a few peripheral figures possibly being charged it suits neither party leader's interest to push the importance of the story. So it'll be one of those side issue things that in the coming months only the geeks who pay attention to these things will even be aware of.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
That’s mainly satisfying as it gives two fingers to Trump but has to be a kick in the balls for team Brexit too. Who’d have thought that it’s easier to make trade deals when you represent a market of nearly a billion people?
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That's a fair bit of a round up now Pogue :lol:
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Lesser of 2 evils is such a no brainer. Blows my mind the way Trump got into power because so many Americans were too stubborn/stupid to follow this basic principle.
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One of the biggest advantages the right has electorally is that the left seem eminently more comfortable with right-wing government than they do imperfect left-wing government. Think that holds true here too.
 
Thought this article had a few decent zingers in it...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ountry-the-answer-is-too-awful-to-contemplate

“You ain’t no Margaret Thatcher,” leered Leigh in, what was for him, one of his more intelligent contributions to parliamentary life. Even his colleagues appeared embarrassed by that. All but Jenkin, who was hellbent on seeing how high he could raise the stupidity bar. Having earlier in the day declared that business was far too interested in making money, he now suggested that the way to reconcile just-in-time production with longer border checks was to make sure that lorries set out from the EU several days earlier than they currently did. That way it wouldn’t matter if they got held up. If he wasn’t already an MP, Jenkin would be hard pushed to get a job.
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:lol: wtf

What Davis hadn’t banked on was his own intellect. Or lack of it. In making a pitch for wisdom, he unwittingly proved exactly why he had always been so unsuited to being in office. Not so much gravitas, as levitas. The best way to increase world trade was to trash our trade with the EU. We needed lorries to be stacked up outside Dover. Hard borders? No problem. Best of all, we were bound to get a great trade deal because as the other EU countries couldn’t speak English they wouldn’t be able to understand when we were negotiating in English. Really.

He was heard in near silence by MPs on both sides of the house. Under the circumstances it was the kindest response. Davis is now a stranger not just to government but also to intelligent life.
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You've got to laugh otherwise you'd just cry...

Is it just me or does anyone else flick between this thread and the Trump one and actually feel completely and utterly drained and depressed at the state of the world at the moment?
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Thought this article had a few decent zingers in it...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ountry-the-answer-is-too-awful-to-contemplate



:lol: wtf



You've got to laugh otherwise you'd just cry...

Is it just me or does anyone else flick between this thread and the Trump one and actually feel completely and utterly drained and depressed at the state of the world at the moment?
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Not just you. I don’t know if it’s because we’ve more insight and coverage of politicians feckery than we ever did before, or whether this current bunch really are the most catastrophically corrupt/inept ever but we certainly seem to scraping some sort of barrel on both sides of the pond.
 
So Vote Leave spent £7.5m instead of £7.0m and got fined £61,000 because none of them could be arsed making excuses for it. I think meh is the modern response, isn't it?

Oh no, I take that back, Veterans for Britain reported a donation inaccurately and were fined £250. I just hope the police go in hard on those bastards, if treating democracy this way isn't how Nazi Germany started I don't know what is.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Not just you. I don’t know if it’s because we’ve more insight and coverage of politicians feckery than we ever did before, or whether this current bunch really are the most catastrophically corrupt/inept ever but we certainly seem to scraping some sort of barrel on both sides of the pond.
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I would say it's a lot to do with social media (mainly twitter) and the ease with which we can access their lunacy on a daily, almost hourly basis, now, too. Being able to follow basically every piece of utter horror that unfolds throughout the day, every day, makes it so much worse.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Thought this article had a few decent zingers in it...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ountry-the-answer-is-too-awful-to-contemplate



:lol: wtf



You've got to laugh otherwise you'd just cry...

Is it just me or does anyone else flick between this thread and the Trump one and actually feel completely and utterly drained and depressed at the state of the world at the moment?
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Yeah it's very depressing. The really scary thing about all of this is that the negative consequences are still to come (although i'm still somewhat hopeful that the worst will be avoided for brexit).
 
Ramshock said:
Yep but theres a lot of grief to be had before that. Personally I am concerned for my US born wife and son,
both have Irish passports but we all live in the North. Im waiting to see if this will be affected.
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The common travel area between Ireland and the UK wont be affected will it?
 
Abizzz said:
Yeah it's very depressing. The really scary thing about all of this is that the negative consequences are still to come (although i'm still somewhat hopeful that the worst will be avoided for brexit).
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Something else that is scary is the way they glibly talk about the need to take a very long term view. “We need to do what will be best for Britain in 30 years time”. I mean, that’s all well and good but the rest of us would like the next 10 years to be fairly high on their list of fecking priorities!
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Something else that is scary is the way they glibly talk about the need to take a very long term view. “We need to do what will be best for Britain in 30 years time”. I mean, that’s all well and good but the rest of us would like the next 10 years to be fairly high on their list of fecking priorities!
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They don't give a shit. The economy could collapse tomorrow and they'll probably make money rather than lose it. They seem to have forgotten though what happens when you cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of people their jobs. If they manage to force through this farce of a Brexit, we're going to see rioting.
 
CassiusClaymore said:
Is it just me or does anyone else flick between this thread and the Trump one and actually feel completely and utterly drained and depressed at the state of the world at the moment?
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Nope, not just you. Hard to see light at the end of the tunnel atm
 
I'm 33, in the middle of trying to buy a house and with a Mrs who wants to start a family next year. 30 years from now means shit to me compared to the next 5. The sad thing is no-one in Parliament represents me. Telling me that everything will be fine by the time I'm retired doesn't wash if I have to try and support a family in poverty.

I'm extremely depressed and anxious right now.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Something else that is scary is the way they glibly talk about the need to take a very long term view. “We need to do what will be best for Britain in 30 years time”. I mean, that’s all well and good but the rest of us would like the next 10 years to be fairly high on their list of fecking priorities!
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They don't care about long term, they only care about their own short term ambitions, the long term talks are just an easy way to kick pressing issues to the side. On a tangent, what bothers me the most is how archaic politic is, we live in a world that has specialized itself since the early 1900s, professionals understand that they don't have all the competences and perspectives but for some reason we are still following political models where a handful of people have a say on incredibly diverse subjects. Brexit is the perfect example of that, the same group of people have to understand regional diplomacy, global economy policies and philosophy, regional security, local and international logistic and many other subjects.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Something else that is scary is the way they glibly talk about the need to take a very long term view. “We need to do what will be best for Britain in 30 years time”. I mean, that’s all well and good but the rest of us would like the next 10 years to be fairly high on their list of fecking priorities!
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It’s a sure sign that there are no tangible benefits to Brexit when people who can barely think outside the 5 year electoral cycle start invoking the sunny uplands of 2050.
 
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