If we can get 24mg liquid back in the shops Ill be happy. Ill happily sacrifice my future and that of my children on that alter. I had to buy a big bottle of flavourless 24mg liquid from America to mix with the 18mg stuff I can get here, but then I am losing flavour to gain a better nicotine hit.
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The results are following remain and leave areas quite closely at the moment, as with 2017.
to be fair I was really fecking annoyed they got rid of the larger bottles.Defo worth economic obliteration.
I was late to the vaping party tbh, so haven't known any different.
Vaping is great. You look like a tosser but only get cancer at like 5% the speed of cigs so you live life longer as a tosser.
Silly Liberals trying to do something to protect the country from a big mistake. Whatever next?
Dude, get hypnotised and have a clean break. Vaping is just a constant long-term reminder that you'd quite like to be smoking a cigarette. That urge won't ever go away, so long as you keep sucking on that vape. Then, one day, you're really drunk, your vape is broken/out of battery, someone offers you a smoke... you know how this ends...
I must admit, I can't wait to see how a local council member manages to reverse Brexit.
I think enough people vape now that I dont feel like that much of a tosser vaping. No more than I look anyway, by virtue of being a tosser.
Seems like you favour the famous Corbyn approach - close your eyes and hope someone else deals with it.
I reckon he should sack May, Fox and Davis.
I agree- it seems almost as common as smoking around here.
That's a very solid argument- I guess vaping is just pretending I am still smoking and I have had a few slips. I will look into hypnosis and see if there are any in my area. Even if it's over £100 it will more than pay for itself so many times over.
I dont think its a particularly solid argument at all. Not for me, anyway. I have vape, so I dont miss smoking. If one day my vape broke down and I was drinking and wanted a cig, I would have one, and then the next day replace my vape and would happily continue not smoking. I have had a cig since I started vaping and it didnt tempt me back. On the other hand, I have given up smoking in the past for years, got drunk, had a cig and then got back into smoking. I think feeding the nicotine monster to keep him sated works better than trying to starve him to death once and for all.
That's me. I know other people dont find vape such a satisfactory alternative, so for them maybe vaping will always be a poor substitute.
That's me. I know other people dont find vape such a satisfactory alternative, so for them maybe vaping will always be a poor substitute.
Remain strategy is very very bad
This is what I don't get. Tory Brexit is fine because the person who points out it's a disaster has also lied in the past, so the best thing to do is allow the disaster to happen because pointing out a hypocrisy matters more?
No one is saying a Tory Brexit is fine just that Alastair Campbell saying well almost anything hurts the Remain cause. The hypocrisy stops people listening to your argument.
Only complete fecking idiots will think being punched in the face is a better idea if the person telling you that being punched in the face is a bad idea is someone you don't like. It's shit like this that really makes a mockery of the idea their isn't a massive intellectual deficit among some on the left. The hatred that people from that fringe of the left seem to have against anyone alive who's ever inflicted electoral defeat on the Tories is also continually baffling.
If only there was 1% of energy put into fighting Tory Brexit as there appears to be in shouting down 'impure' Labour voices.
Just just don't ever quote me again.
If Tony Blair said that burning dogs alive is wrong, it doesn't undermine the point that burning dogs alive is wrong simply because you don't like Tony Blair. If you think it does then, I'm sorry, but I reserve the right to consider you a moron.
If Tony Blair joined PETA I'd wonder which dictator is funding them.
Country about to drive over a cliff. Most important thing though is to make sure everyone knows that those pointing out the country is driving over a cliff have also committed driving offences in the past. And because of that everyone's unsure as to whether driving over a cliff is a bad or not because it undermines the argument that driving over a cliff is bad to have that pointed out by someone who's previously been involved in a car accident.
It's absolutely no surprise with the left in this state how the Tories manage to get away with absolutely fecking everything.
Outside of angry mob scenes in the Simpsons, this isn't how people are supposed to think.
It's absolutely no surprise with the left in this state how the Tories manage to get away with absolutely fecking everything.
Outside of angry mob scenes in the Simpsons, this isn't how people are supposed to think.
Brexit: Rebel Tories say they have enough MPs to push Theresa May into staying in single market – if Labour backs it
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...vote-theresa-may-labour-backing-a8336971.html
Which is fair enough because Jess Phillips was mean to Diane Abbott once, so....you know.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...vote-theresa-may-labour-backing-a8336971.html
Which is fair enough because Jess Phillips was mean to Diane Abbott once, so....you know.
*made up a story about being mean to Diane Abbott once
Again, let's pretend we don't notice the fact that those who are most keen on using the word 'Tory' as an accusation against those wanting to actually prevent disastrous Tory policy are the most vociferous supporters of those who seem to be doing everything in their power to ensure as easy passage as possible for a Tory Brexit.
It's akin to waiving by Thatcher's poll tax bill whilst insisting anyone trying to stop it is a Thatcherite. That's where we are now. Do anything to stop a Tory Brexit, you're a Tory. You prove your credentials as a definitely-not-Tory, by whipping your party into voting with the Tories.
Disappointing that the hard right and hard left have united in their wish to deliver a Tory Brexit. Just think it's ironic when the hard left do so whilst also being happy to accuse anyone who points out of absolutely absurd it is of being a 'Tory'. If you climb into bed with someone it's lacking in chivalrousness to use their name as an insult, guys. Come on. Have some class.
It's akin to waiving by Thatcher's poll tax bill whilst insisting anyone trying to stop it is a Thatcherite. That's where we are now. Do anything to stop a Tory Brexit, you're a Tory. You prove your credentials as a definitely-not-Tory, by whipping your party into voting with the Tories.
Disappointing that the hard right and hard left have united in their wish to deliver a Tory Brexit. Just think it's ironic when the hard left do so whilst also being happy to accuse anyone who points out of absolutely absurd it is of being a 'Tory'. If you climb into bed with someone it's lacking in chivalrousness to use their name as an insult, guys. Come on. Have some class.
that would be a good point if we weren't all remoaners who often get accused of calling leaving racist too often
Labour peers accuse Corbyn of Brexit cowardice
Party is blocking efforts in Lords to call for membership of the European Economic Area
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/05/labour-peers-accuse-corbyn-brexit-cowardice
Being frustrated at what's being done to stop the Tories makes them Tories! Right?
Party is blocking efforts in Lords to call for membership of the European Economic Area
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/05/labour-peers-accuse-corbyn-brexit-cowardice
Being frustrated at what's being done to stop the Tories makes them Tories! Right?
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...labours-custom-union-plan-realistic-and-smart
In other words, they're being realistic and smart
In other words, they're being realistic and smart
Realistic and smart is staying in the single market.
It's about 2 years too late for that. Faux membership is the only realistic path now.
What makes it "2 years too late" to join the EEA?
It's political suicide post-referendum. If Labour the Tory backbenchers rebel and make it happen anyway, great, they take the heat themselves. But it won't work for either leader.
Heh, pre-Corbyn someone (like me) probably could've written that exact statement about austerity. Triangulation always finds a way.
Possibly, austerity had public support circa 2013-2015, but I don't think it ever had near the same love Brexit does from the general public. Brexit's more of an existential question than a dial people want at one level one year and another the next.
I don't buy the whole 'political suicide' thing. I can get how, with the majority of their voters supporting Brexit/hard Brexit, it's politically very difficult for May to support anything else. I don't understand the logic that says that the leader of the party whose members support soft Brexit/ no Brexit has to support hard Brexit or else risk political disaster. Arguments that suggest as much seem to act as a smoke screen for a leader who wanted Brexit to begin with and is now trying to find ways of making excuses for his complete lack of opposition to it despite leading a party whose MPs/members/voters/natural political sympathisers being against it.
A new customs union is a soft Brexit.
Over 30% of Labour voters supported Brexit and recent polls suggest a decent number want something done about immigration. Don't necessarily agree with them but again people need to stop pretending this isn't a thing.
You mean EFTA because you are currently members of the EEA and that's what you are leaving.
McDonnell on Marr:
"We will negotiate a customs union, which will solve the Irish border issue"
Incredible such things aren't even challenged any more.
"We will negotiate a customs union, which will solve the Irish border issue"
Incredible such things aren't even challenged any more.
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Yeah, they want a custom agreement and not a custom union since Brexit is the fruit of the unwillingness to be in an Union and the willingness to take all decisions unilaterally. And there is already a Custom Union that solves the Irish border issue.