That sounds a joyless job.
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That sounds a joyless job.
"Basically your job is meaningless because it won't happen. But if it does happen we're completely fecked anyway. Enjoy. And please don't explain 'what Brexit means' to David because I've been telling him to Google it for weeks."
The government should have started this whole ordeal with it as it would give them a clear idea of the impact of a no deal and how these problems could be mitigated if such thing happened. The two options (deal and no deal) should have worked independently while sharing information to determine which path to take in the circumstances at place.
Instead they left it late and will give the impression that its just another smoke screen meant to make the eu think that the uk is taking a no deal situation seriously.
What the actual feck is she even doing? I'd love to know whether that 'substantial budget' will include analysis and public reports of the actual effects of such a ridiculous course of action.
Presume his main task will be to turn Kent into a lorry park and arrange for the collection of unused saucepans to convert into Reliant Robins to sell to Kiribati.
I take it the Cafe's decided there is no chance of a no deal then? I'm not sure why as we simply don't know what the EU will demand yet, personally I'm making no predictions until we do.
Remember how we all laughed at 'Brexit means brexit', until it gradually sank in? Well maybe 'No deal is better than a bad deal' hasn't gone away either.
Would it be shit? Yeah course it would, might it happen? yeah, it might actually.
Remember how we all laughed at 'Brexit means brexit', until it gradually sank in? Well maybe 'No deal is better than a bad deal' hasn't gone away either.
Would it be shit? Yeah course it would, might it happen? yeah, it might actually.
What is that supposed to mean? The UK knows rules, they are the ones who are supposed to tell what they want.
But if it happens, TM is directly responsible for both the event and the aftermath. Appointing a minister to it is just slopy shouldered political BS.
What is Noel Edmonds up to these days?
'Supposed to mean'? I think whatever the UK asks for the EU will say how much it would cost in terms of climb-downs and cash. So we waiting to find out what it's 'supposed to mean' if you will.
Yes, TM, and the voters who voted Brexit of course.
Yeah but there's Brexit and Brexit... I mean if it were me I would just be doing a Norway style deal all the way and everything else would be political posturing to appease anti immigration idiots. Which might actually be happening, but hard to be sure.
I agree, but the possibility depends partly on how much the EU would ask in return. Which we just don't know yet.
But you need to actually have a position on what type of relationship you want with the EU and you need actually ask for something, which has allegedly not happen. That's what I meant and why I was questioning your point, I wasn't sure about the chronology that you were using. The EU can't tell the UK much, if the latter don't express a clear position, I'm under the impression that the UK and a part of the press is inventing a world where the EU are supposed to initiate and direct UK's foreign policy, which is a weird concept.
Just a wrong impression then I think JP. Barnier has said on several occasions the UK should hurry up in saying what it wants, which is probably where you've got it from, but that will still be the start for sure. How much of what happens next will be in the public domain I'm not sure though, some of it won't come out for years, and the press will print whatever suits their own agenda anyway.
We have enough in the public domain to know that they have no clue about where they want to be. Just think about the "No custom union but no border" position that they put on paper and then they changed that position in November-December. They have no clue, they have no clear plan other than try to please everyone and no one at the same time which isn't a position from Brexit POV.
The government is certainly insane enough to go for a no deal but they know (even though they won't admit it) that should there be no membership of the CU or the SM then the Irish border closes , WTO rules apply and a large chunk of the City will disappear. To have membership of the CU and the SM there has to be a deal.
Whatever this means:
https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-fa...questions-he-will-ask-michel-barnier-11199980
Nigel Farage will ask Michel Barnier these three questions. I wonder how he will answer them. That would be my take
Does Michel Barnier understand why Britain voted for Brexit?
Well you have to ask that to the British voter for that. Guaranteed access to the single market without any responsibilities attached to it, avoiding rules about bendy bananas, blue passports and the famous 350m a week to the NHS would be my take
What happens to the EU’s economy if there’s no trade deal with Britain?
The EU will lose a trade partner which equals to 8 to 10%. Its regrettable of course but each EU country can still rely on the biggest economic market in the world + loads of trade deals beyond of that. Id be panicking if we were going to lose the market we sell around half of all our services and goods to.
How does Michel Barnier view mass immigration into the EU coming across the Mediterranean and elsewhere?
Its a humanitarian crisis that need to be better managed. However such argument should not be discussed with the Brexit negotiator, unless of course, immigration is the very reason why the UK is leaving the EU.
Nigel Farage will ask Michel Barnier these three questions. I wonder how he will answer them. That would be my take
Does Michel Barnier understand why Britain voted for Brexit?
Well you have to ask that to the British voter for that. Guaranteed access to the single market without any responsibilities attached to it, avoiding rules about bendy bananas, blue passports and the famous 350m a week to the NHS would be my take
What happens to the EU’s economy if there’s no trade deal with Britain?
The EU will lose a trade partner which equals to 8 to 10%. Its regrettable of course but each EU country can still rely on the biggest economic market in the world + loads of trade deals beyond of that. Id be panicking if we were going to lose the market we sell around half of all our services and goods to.
How does Michel Barnier view mass immigration into the EU coming across the Mediterranean and elsewhere?
Its a humanitarian crisis that need to be better managed. However such argument should not be discussed with the Brexit negotiator, unless of course, immigration is the very reason why the UK is leaving the EU.
"If you don't give us what we want we will continue to shoot ourselves in the foot until you do, so there!"
Or "Listen Mr Barnier, when I'm finished eating that cake, it better be intact."
Oh?
That’s exactly how it’d negotiate. Am not even joking! And it isn’t as one-way as that too. Start like that and end up with a negotiated deal.
Absolutely, all I've said is I'm surprised the cafe is so sure there will be a deal, and that no deal is still on the cards.
No that only works when you win.
Thats how referendums work Paz, they exist because of the political situation at the time and the mood of citizens/electorate.
And re-executed over and over and over again?
Curious, do you support new Scottish independence referendum?
If the political situation dictates. Theres enough doubt about Brexit around to make a 2nd referendum possible. You can't say democracy only works when it suits me or my ideals and once my sides won then that should be enough. The result was so tight there was always going to be doubt and discourse about it plus referendums arent the same as elections.
As for Scotland yes I would want a second referendum as I am a nationalist and would hope a successfully independant Scotland would hasten a United Ireland.
So if the UK / EU had agreed in Jun 2016 that we need a deal by Dec 2016 to avoid uncertainty for both sides, and we did, you’d still clamour for a re-think even now?
If not, opportunistic much?
Very interesting re your ‘nationalist’ outlook, but seems you are also pro-EU?!
Edit: AV voting system referendum a good example too; guessing should be voted on every few months / years too?
Had only the Remainer dominated parliament acted thus in the past. Such direct democrac y was felt to be an unneceesary, however. Or in the case of the Lib Dems, bless their cottons, they wanted a simple In/Out vote to put the issue to bed once and for all.
Should MPs so choose, they are empowered to establish a set of procedures for ongoing national referenda in the future. I'd be fully on board myself. I can think of a few worthwile questions for the first half of 2018 alone: cannabis legalisation, future funding suggestions for the NHS, and measures targeted at plastic pllution.
Why does me wanting to maintain the current status within EU as a vastly better option than Brexit make me pro EU. It makes me anti poverty not pro EU
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They didnt agree though did they Paz? Its not a hypothetical situation. If the conditions allow for there to be enough momentum to allow a 2nd amendment then so be it. If Brexit was ratified done and dusted by now then thats that game over...rat pie and blue passports for everyone.
Hardcore gifting
Oh dear...
Thankfully no other countries make tea and Marmite, or they'd look like absolute idiots putting those in a hamper.
He's been crucified in the replies. Marmite was invented by a German. Marmite and PG Tips are made by a 50% Dutch owned company etc etc
Apart from anything else, it looks like one of the shittest hampers of food you've ever seen. Bulked up with a book about Winston Churchill he probably bought at a service station en route to the airport. The whole thing is straight out of Alan Partridge.
Apart from anything else, it looks like one of the shittest hampers of food you've ever seen. Bulked up with a book about Winston Churchill he probably bought at a service station en route to the airport. The whole thing is straight out of Alan Partridge.
Tbf, gin is always a nice present. The rest would wind up in the closet for ages/be regifted.