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I agree it is absolutely inept journalism again from the Guardian. Johnson has never said that we would not pay, simply disputed the high amounts being aired. Now I can easily recognise the distinction but others may struggle with it.
But that's what the article said, so you didn't read it.
If the bill is €100bn will it be paid or not?
https://www.theguardian.com/global/...s-for-lengthy-transitional-period-post-brexit
I especially like this bit:
He has threatened not to pay the amount due. To be pedantic this didn't exclude paying something. However you spin it his latest approach is a huge change in attitude at the very least.
I don't understand this and can't see the answer if the Uk wants in the future to be able to sign trade deals with the rest of the world which having left the EU it does.
The EU position on the border between Northern and Southern Ireland doesn't make any sense.
It is committed to keeping the border as if it is within the customs union as a prerequisite for a deal and at the same time it doesn't want the UK to be able to sign trade deals even though it is leaving the EU.
What gives?
The EU are being put in an impossible situation and being asked to clean up our mess for us. Pretty standard for the last few years really.
Its not the EU alone that needs the NI/Ireland border to remain as it is.
The entire Good Friday Agreement is built upon the fact that border remains frictionless. Put any sort of border controls there will empower the paramilitary gangs again and return us to a very bad time for everyone.
Surely the EU is worried about the UK using an open Irish border as backdoor for UK goods entering Europe ?
This may help you
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...sengers-leaving-the-uk/exit-checks-fact-sheet
Sounds like they had paper checks... which were extremely visible but not very useful. They then moved to a more sophisticated method which was less visible.
From 2015 they've reintroduced physical checks
More like for US, Australian, New Zealandian etc goods.
But aren't we going to get an absolutely top class free trade deal after brexit ?
They could also be worried about British emigrants fleeing an impoverished state
Germanys always open and welcomingThey could also be worried about British emigrants fleeing an impoverished state
Leave the EU but join Schengen, one way of course. Easy-peasy.They could also be worried about British emigrants fleeing an impoverished state
So when May uses security as a bargaining chip they say: "We go into these negotiations with security and defence being a big thing in our corner." (Fallon)
When Barnier does it's 'risible nonsense'. One has to love them, them tories
When Barnier does it's 'risible nonsense'. One has to love them, them tories
Forget all that, who's the blonde?
According to the caption below the picture: Mollie King.
Reading these admonishments from the EU to the naughty UK schoolboy I can imagine what our school report would have on it - 1/10, effortlessly achieved.
But we had all the bullshit from the EU about how they would be open and transparent....
And then, six months after saying they want money from the UK before talks can start about anything else, have they actually yet said how much they want from the UK ??
Of course they haven't. So how does the UK negotiate about an as yet unknown amount ??
Meanwhile, all the shit gets heaped on to the UK negotiators for the delay.
I tell you guys, the EU couldn't give a shit about anything other than collecting yet more money from the UK, because without it......
I hope you're having a laugh. The EU have said they want £100m and it is for the UK to provide a counter proposal.
Source?
And they have provided a detailed make-up of the £100m ??
That's bollocks and you know it - how utterly amazing that it's exctly £100 million, and not, say, £97 million or £104 million.
Crooks and Liars
That's bollocks and you know it - how utterly amazing that it's exctly £100 million, and not, say, £97 million or £104 million.
Crooks and Liars
I would think that the amount will be in Euros and is now considerably more in Sterling due to the weakness of the pound (so unexpected).
As May wanted to suppress all information coming out of the negotiations , very little will be made known to the public as any details given have to be agreed by both parties.
The timetable published by the EU for these rounds of negotiations is as follows as published by the EU.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/agenda_3rd_round.pdf
As there will be a press briefing on Thursday more information on progress made may be available then.
).As May wanted to suppress all information coming out of the negotiations , very little will be made known to the public as any details given have to be agreed by both parties.
The timetable published by the EU for these rounds of negotiations is as follows as published by the EU.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/agenda_3rd_round.pdf
As there will be a press briefing on Thursday more information on progress made may be available then.
Hi Paul....
How are you doing with the FX Rate ?
Your pensions coming from the UK ? And shrinking ?
We're sort of breaking even - my UK pensions are now a fair bit less, of course, but balanced by the fall in the cost of a couple of mortgages I've still got there, although my main pension, fortunately, is in €s....
Overall, though, we're probably down about £150k on paper if we were to sell off everythng in the UK and bring the cash here but about £250k better off if we sold up here and went back to the UK ( as if....)
How are you doing with the FX Rate ?
Your pensions coming from the UK ? And shrinking ?
We're sort of breaking even - my UK pensions are now a fair bit less, of course, but balanced by the fall in the cost of a couple of mortgages I've still got there, although my main pension, fortunately, is in €s....
Overall, though, we're probably down about £150k on paper if we were to sell off everythng in the UK and bring the cash here but about £250k better off if we sold up here and went back to the UK ( as if....)
Both sides full of useless cnuts tbh
Hi FBR
Moved my private pension to France before Brexit as I had no faith in the British public - fortunately I did! - Fx rate doesn't affect me other than if I want to buy something from the UK in which case I'm quids in. Not due my state pension for another 5 years so I'm not really counting on that anyway but at this rate won't be worth much.
Don't see how it makes any difference really. It matters what's in your pension, not where you hold it.
Edit - as in, if you have a global weighting... that's going to have gained whether in Britain or France
It does, as it is in Euros and not pounds, can't go into too much detail but it made a massive difference
It makes no difference
I assure you it has but I'm not going to tell you how
I think that the eu just want the uk to leave without a deal. They cant just say bye because article 50 obliges them to act nice and speak of future relationships. So they are being unreasonable so that the uk will do the walking for them.
I wonder why the uk hasnt done that already. They must be desperate for a deal
I wonder why the uk hasnt done that already. They must be desperate for a deal
Global stocks go up when GBP drops, when measured in Pounds
So you just needed to globaify your stocks
So they want us to leave without paying their £100bn, leaving them with a massive black hole?