I think that is the basic requirement of a national anthem
The UK is crap, pass it on.
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The UK is crap, pass it on.
I think that is the basic requirement of a national anthem
No really, its horrible. Far more horrible then most anthems. Fr Karm should be unburied, his bones should be pissed upon and then reburied. That's how terrible it is.
Oh crap, Pocco will soon say Im anti-Maltese too
Could it be the case that I only speak in here of two topics which aren't England's strength and hasn't been so for quite some time? (ie football and politics)
What about the anthem from Lichtenstein?
I know about three anthems (British, Italian and Maltese) and they are hardly great (although I rate the British as the best of the lot). However the Maltese one is by far the worst. Music wise the finest anthem I've heard is the Russian one
Oh come now, 'rebellious scots to crush' is an excellent part of the national anthem, I'd have added quite a few more personally, given the chance.
Yeah, I know it's all made up, rather like a lot of other history really, it's just a bit of fun.
Yeah, I know it's all made up, rather like a lot of other history really, it's just a bit of fun.
The maltese anthem is a frigging prayer
Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz?
Finally proof that brexit is bad
So the more EU money you get the more you voted to leave. Kinell. Many of the huge leave areas get 20 times as much EU money as the biggest stay voters.
That is going to smart when the money dries up and isn't replaced by Teresa.
That is going to smart when the money dries up and isn't replaced by Teresa.
I think we'd probably find that most areas that voted to remain don't actually get much EU money because they don't need it.
London, for example !
May: "We can't offer a running commentary to parliament on the Brexit negotiations"
The EU: "The negotiations will be utterly transparent"
http://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/XT-21023-2017-INIT/en/pdf
The EU: "The negotiations will be utterly transparent"
http://data.consilium.europa.eu/doc/document/XT-21023-2017-INIT/en/pdf
That the inevitable flip side of the coin. The areas that need EU money get the most EU money (up to 1050 quid per oerson per year) and they are the areas that voted to leave and who are going to be fecked even more after Brexit.
Amazing.No they're not.
The biggest percentage of Leave voters in the UK, outside London, was Scotland - who Wee Krankie says are going to stay in the EU, doesn't she ? And even if she can't, all she needs to do is bring Scotland in line with England on Tuition Fees and Prescription costs and she will be able to continue supporting those in Scotland who have got used to living out of the EU's pocket.
Anyway....Interesting independent survey here - not the Daily HateMail or the UK edition of Pravda known as the Guardian.
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brexit-people-are-angry-but-looking-for-compromise-research-finds
To quote -
The most commonly cited example of a positive EU impact was no mobile phone roaming charges. Some young people also mentioned the arrival of high-street brands such as Spanish company Zara.
In general, however, Barnard and Ludlow found that it was easier for people who voted Leave to provide examples of how they felt the EU had interfered too much than it was for Remain voters to give concrete examples of the EU’s benefit.
I'm not going to say that some people appear to lack intelligence, but they do seem intellectually challenged when it comes to things outside their own little world of mobile phones and 'Do I look good in this '
Did you get your figures from the side of a bus because you've got that wrong. Scotland was one of the highest percentage remain areas outside London with 1.66M votes against 1.02M to leave with not one single region registering a leave result.
https://www.electoralcommission.org...u-referendum/electorate-and-count-information
Zaras clobber is made by 13 year old Iraqi refugees in Turkey, go Spain.
Yeah...For Leave read Remain....Sorry for that....Too much full bodied red, with hints of rasberry, peppermint and chocolate. in the garden this afternoon....
I won't write it all again....Suffice to say the Scots don't need to worry about loss of EU funding....
Leavers found it easier to provide examples of how they felt the EU interfered too much. That's not the same as finding it easier to provide examples of how the EU actually interfered too much. If their examples don't hold water then it hardly says much for their intelligence either, they're just finding it easy to be wrong.
People who fell for Boris Johnson's straight bananas routine are posited as being more intelligent ?
Time to return to the Flat Earth thread
Time to return to the Flat Earth thread
Just because they don't agree with your own views doesn't mean that they're wrong and you're right in everyone's world, even it does in your world.
People who fell for Boris Johnson's straight bananas routine are posited as being more intelligent ?
Time to return to the Flat Earth thread
I don't think they're any less intelligent than those who believed Cameron and Osborne's lies about an immediate economic armageddon, emergency budget and taxe rises, collapse of house prices, etc, etc....
Obviously not but not everything is about opinion. Some things are either factually correct or incorrect and getting that right is far more reflective of intelligence than being able to name things that feel correct or incorrect.
For example, one of the factors mentioned in the piece you posted was "the promise of additional healthcare funding". That isn't actually going to happen is it? In which case the people who found it easy to name that as a major benefit of Brexit are more wrong than the people who could only name minor, petty benefits of staying. Yet the latter are who you criticise for lacking intelligence?
I'm not even talking about the broader debate, just that the message you drew from the piece you posted was weird.
You're right - I thought it was weird as well, and is why I posted it.
If the most common answer had been 'Ability to live in another country' or ' EU membership is good for UK Trade ' then I could perhaps understand.
By the way - I said those who replied with those stupid answers may be intellectually lacking - not lacking intelligence. Always thought the difference between intelligence and intellect is that our current cat is far more intelligent than our previous cat, but cat's don't have intellect. At least, not as far as I'm aware.
As for the Healthcare funding - who knows ? When the UK's contributions end, there'll be another €12 billion or so available for public spending, some of which may go to the NHS, some of which most probably won't. Too early to tell. But whichever Govenment is in power in 2019, they'll have another €12 bllion plus ( heaven forbid ) possible import tarrifs to spend as they want / need. It really is unrealistic to expect the Government to start spending that €12 billion immediately when they haven't actually got those savings yet. So yes, those you speak of may ultimately be proven to have been wrong, post-2019, but not yet.
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Scotland and Northern Ireland (and presumably the Welsh) aren't typical as they aren't as prone to singing Land of Hope and Glory while thinking the nasty Europeans have dragged us low from when we ruled the world. Brexit is a very English thing.
I agree except for Wales, I've spent a lot of time in the south there and anti EU sentiment is up there with England.
Not real Welsh then
Swansea if that counts.Almost right.
As far as the Scots go, it's the nasty English who are responsible for all Scotland's problems.
But there won't be the €12bn available, the reduction in the value of Sterling is seeing to that , that's why everything will become more expensive. As for the tariffs, if they come, the tariffs will be paid by the consumer thus by the people. Therefore it is an indirect tax on the British people. It would much cheaper to stay in the EU and not pay the tariffs. Someone has to realise on the Brexit side sooner or later.
But the UK would be happy to accept Tariff Free Trade - it's the EU who will probably reject it for their own ideological reasons, not for reasons of common sense.
Why would you imagine your version of 'common sense' would be the same as theirs? Why would they see doing something that could help collapse the European project and cost all their countries hundreds of billions of (ex-)euros as common sense?
I'm sure the UK would but if May and co. expect a free ride to have all the benefits without costing them anything, then they'll have to wake up pretty soon to reality. It is guaranteed that there will be no financial gain for the UK leaving the EU.
As I've been saying since all this started I still don't know what the positive aspect for the UK is of this decision. It does not compute.
Precisely. Haven't Leavers been saying this all along ? Lots of Europeans prefer to be members of a Free Trade Association - that's all, not some Federal States of Europe Project.
Lots of British people would like to be part of the EU, yet that apparently didn't matter so much to you. The only way giving Britain a great deal makes any sense, is if you want to be out of the EU and/or you believe the EU is a negative thing. Most Europeans don't think either of those things.
What exactly have you been saying all along? That giving Britain a great deal would be a terrible blow to the EU? Because as far as I remember, thats the exact OPPOSITE of what you've all been saying.
You and I are on different sides of this argument - I don't see any benefits for the UK in staying other than Tarrif Free Trade with the EU.
But as the EU has Tariff Free Trade with the UK, and runs a huge surplus in Tariff Free Trade with the UK, and charges the UK about €20 billion for the privilege, and prevents the UK from doing its own Trade Deals with non-EU countries, and insists that the UK has an economic open border to allow EU governments and quasi-government companies to buy up half the UK's public services and infrastructure, and an open physical border to soak up the EU's unemployed and unemployable, etc, etc, then I'd turn your comment around and say that I don't see any positive aspect for the EU coming out of the BREXIT vote.
But I do see potential benefits for the UK outside the EU - quite how many of those can be turned into reality is up to the EU.
An economically strong and prosperous UK, post BREXIT, will also benefit the EU as we are such an important customer for their exports. An economically weak UK post BREXIT will overspill to the EU's economy and its remaining members' economies.
Really, the choice is up to the EU - good friends and trading partners with the UK or miserable, feck you ex-partners.