I know, you moved to France for that.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Well hopefully in a week's time the insanity will be over.
I must say this thread has been comedy gold
Have mercy, we are hurting around here.
He's not that bad when you get to know him I bet.
"vidic blood & sand, post: 20826647, member: 80446"]This might be a valid point if the UK had been handed a proper tab with a breakdown of the bill, but it hasn't. The figure has been made up, and we're just expected to pay it. So you analogy works against you.
Not to mention the fact that we have been investment partners in all the EU has done, like helping to fund it's spectacular buildings etc. Where's our settlement in all this?[/QUOTE
It should be quite simple, shouldn't it ?
All the UK needs to do is say to the EU -
' OK...Show us where it says in the rules that anyone leaving the EU has to pay to leave, and would it be the case that if, say, Poland or Bulgaria decided to leave, they'd still get their € 40 billion each year ( or wharever amount it is ) of subsidies for the next few years after they've left ? '
Then the UK should politely ask for a breakdown of the bill that the EU wants the UK to settle.
Nothing wrong with that approach....Well, not as far as I can see
Not to mention the fact that we have been investment partners in all the EU has done, like helping to fund it's spectacular buildings etc. Where's our settlement in all this?[/QUOTE
It should be quite simple, shouldn't it ?
All the UK needs to do is say to the EU -
' OK...Show us where it says in the rules that anyone leaving the EU has to pay to leave, and would it be the case that if, say, Poland or Bulgaria decided to leave, they'd still get their € 40 billion each year ( or wharever amount it is ) of subsidies for the next few years after they've left ? '
Then the UK should politely ask for a breakdown of the bill that the EU wants the UK to settle.
Nothing wrong with that approach....Well, not as far as I can see
I really scratch my head at people that think a trade war would be anything but a disaster for the UK economy, our workers and our services.
If what you're suggesting happens, we lose our financial institutions and multinational investments who will relocate to Germany and France so they can avoid trade war tarriffs. We lose loads of jobs and tax income and become poorer as a nation.
As for trading with other countries we're actually in a worse position because we've torn up a load of free trade agreements that the EU agreed so we'd trade less with other countries.
As for the riculous "but can be part funded from the money saved from our lack of membership", no Tory goverment is funding private businesses for the protectionism of other countries, it's against their political ethos and mathematically it wouldn't begin to cover it. If the UK wants a trade agreement with the EU they will have to pay a similar amount to what they were paying into the EU as a member.
This is one of the most important issues at the moment. Foreign nationals living here must be given assurances about their status post brexit. This is a chance for Theresa May to take the moral high ground here.
However, one thing to take into account, EU foreign nationals living in the UK after brexit will not be contributing anything to the EU, and so they won't be regarded as much of a bargaining chip compared to British nationals living in EU countries.
He's not that bad when you get to know him I bet.
Well done.He's not that bad when you get to know him I bet.
I'm very cute and friendly
I do actually and I also understand why the Sun referred to WWII and the Dad's army theme. What I don't and never will understand is the British obsession with WWII even now. Achtung!!
Yes but people's lives should not be used as bargaining chips. Its the same for both, Uk nationals living in the EU won't be contributing to the UK either
Tariffs will hurt the EU countries more than us, as they are trying to be as competitive as they can for our custom. Why would they want to restrict business with one of its major customers?
It would be easier for us to strike up free trade deals with other countries, as the the regulations do not need to be as strict.
No. They can trade under WTO rules.
This absolutely right, which is why Theresa May has the chance to really take the moral high ground here. If the UK gives assurances to EU nationals living here, the EU will be seen to be using people as bargaining chips for it's own advantage if it did not do the same for Brits currently living in EU countries.
That"s because there isn't an obsession with it. British Football supporters in Germany say that world when they're drunk and having a laugh because for most of them it's the only German word that they know.
With the other the reason it"s on the front of the paper is because it's Brutish humour again in the actual phrase used as much as anything. That and the fact that Germany is once again trying to rule us. Even so, all of the examples used here are typical British humour.
I'm not sure you know who Theresa May is.
If she does get to power France will join the UK in leaving the EU. They'll probably ending up doing great trade deal with the UK and being Britain's partner in negotiating fantastic deals with like liberal, democratic and free thinking rigimes such as the ones in Saudi Arabia and Qatar! Liberte, egalite, fraternite!!
But this is where I see a difference, have never sensed any animosity towards other EU citizens here, maybe different in other EU countries which other posters could elaborate on but I don't think EU citizens now feel as welcome in the UK as I do here.
I think she's abandoned the idea of leaving the EU and reinstalling the franc , too unpopular
Mate, the Brits ARE obsessed with WWII. And the Germans are offended by ze humour, ze are just too polite to tell ze this und if ze don't answer ze questions we vill tie you with ze piano wire.
Only in the minds of others.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39777755
The lower pound is proving to be good news for manufacturing.
The lower pound is proving to be good news for manufacturing.
Shame it only accounts for 10% of the economy and that the UK economy is very much a import and service economy. But don't let me stop you clutching at straws.
Well, if they are using divide and conquer, I'd say they do understand British colonial history really well.
We are no longer talking a sudden shift, we are almost a year down the line. Prices are up substantially
You might be but the rest of us aren't. Granted we haven't forgotten Germany's wish to rule Europe, mainly because they are still at it, as numerous posters on here know when they keep reminding us that Merkel is in charge (well supposedly).
No, it's just the way they think. Most domineering political systems (and domineering people) work in just the same way.
No they won't, they're a bigger trading block and as such we're less significant as a customer. Our EU market simply is
No it won't. For one it can take a decade to put together a trade agreement together and no they won't be 'need to be less strict'. Countries won't prioritise us that highly because we are smaller trading block than the EU. So the US is prioritising an EU trade agreement over a UK one.
The UK are looking at a Brexit with no trading agreeements in place anywhere and aren't close to any.
Right, which means the highest tarriffs possible, increasing business costs to anyone who trades in the EU, or anywhere because there are no trade agreements.
What do you call people who believe that Germany wants to rule Europe? Xenephobic!
I think we're better off if the UK and EU are allowed to give their goodbyes. There might be a deal regarding immigrants stuck in each other territory but that would be it. The UK will not pay any outstanding bills and the EU would not be obliged to offer the UK any trade deal at all. Its time for both to party to seal a new stable and bold Good riddance....
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No, May fully expects the Telegraph to be the only media to cover Brexit in complete sentences. Pictures will be duly supplied by the Sun and Mail. (The nerve of Brexiteers to cry foul play... They do realize nobody outside of their own camp takes them seriously anymore, don't they?) Oh and Donald of course, if it suits his interest.
This seems the only sensible thing to do, really. That should settle the past relationship and open doors for a new one.
And when that fails to cause mass panic and the UK begging to stay in the EU they'll no doubt increase it to €150bn.
Their techniques are embarrassingly predictable. Their behaviour intended to cause animosity between countries. Kids in the playground mentality.
As with anything in life, if you agree to pay for something, sadly you gotta pay. Like those shitty gym memberships we all lock ourselves into every few years.
The only divide and conquer tactics I have seen is the Tory Brexiters splitting the Uk into two groups and having a free hand in the UK by destroying the opposition.
The Clearing House in London will have to move to a EU member state, probably Paris or Frankfurt I guess. Cost of jobs? 80,000... yes you read it right, 80,000 jobs!!!!! That's what Brexit will mean in reality. Hope the Brexiteers are pleased.
I don't agree. But I do think that, for example, threatening a war with Spain is very juvenile indeed.
Brexit was won on the idea of total independence for the UK in terms of setting laws, commercial disputes, setting border controls and signing new trade deals. That means that the UK couldn’t stay in the EU, EEA, the customs union or accept the ECJ ruling. It’s that simple. The Tory party can’t make a U-Turn on those promises without making themselves look silly. Meanwhile the EU cannot and will not appease them. If they did, then they will have to appease others who are far bigger and more important than the UK (China, US etc).
Some might say the EU need the UK and some might say it doesn’t. In my opinion, that argument isn’t even relevant. For years the UK had halted any attempt of a stronger European union and had opted out and protested about everything and everyone. The UK had squandered its legal right to send a meaningful voice to Brussels by appointing UKIP MEPs who either they don’t bother turning in to meetings or else they spend the time insulting others. That had resulted into Brexit which is nothing more than a Tory catfight that went out of control.
Now the pertinent question should be, why on earth would the EU help the Tory party get out from the hole they dig themselves into? Why should they even care? They got more pressing issues than getting involved into the UK’s squabbles. Syria is imploding, Turkey is heading to a dictatorship, Libya is a new Somalia and the two superpowers are lead by idiots.That is far more important than sealing a trade deal witht the UK.
Some might say the EU need the UK and some might say it doesn’t. In my opinion, that argument isn’t even relevant. For years the UK had halted any attempt of a stronger European union and had opted out and protested about everything and everyone. The UK had squandered its legal right to send a meaningful voice to Brussels by appointing UKIP MEPs who either they don’t bother turning in to meetings or else they spend the time insulting others. That had resulted into Brexit which is nothing more than a Tory catfight that went out of control.
Now the pertinent question should be, why on earth would the EU help the Tory party get out from the hole they dig themselves into? Why should they even care? They got more pressing issues than getting involved into the UK’s squabbles. Syria is imploding, Turkey is heading to a dictatorship, Libya is a new Somalia and the two superpowers are lead by idiots.That is far more important than sealing a trade deal witht the UK.
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If that's the case then why on earth is the UK so obsessed with a trade deal? They should show the middle finger to Europe and leave. And yet here we are, with British papers obsessing about Brexit and with TM constantly rambling about a bold and new relationships with the EU. I assure you that Brexit barely make any headlines in European papers anymore.
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