Tony Blair set the world on fire
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Tony Blair set the world on fire
All the people I know in the UK , friends and family , not one Tory voter voted Leave and not one Labour voter voted Remain
Thank you Sly
.All the old school Labour people I know voted Leave and the young Labour people voted Remain. Tories probably 50-50.
But they didnt mind taking a chance on a pm that might just lose the ref. Thats bizarre
Probably confident Leave vote wouldn't win , discounting "loyalty" vote, remember even Farage didn't think he'd win the night before
Stll, if they are unhappy at the outcome then they need to have a good look at themselves im afraid.
What farage thought is neither here nor there, i didnt think uk would vote to leave either.
Yes but how many Labour voters voted Tory in 2015 other than floaters, the same argument
Sure a 23% minority among leave voters. But 100% of them voted for that odious cnut who has already run off from the bonfire.
You're talking about Cameron? I don't understand the context.
I'm asking why the Labour 37% is the most to blame for the result, not the Tory 58% or the Lib Dem 30% or SNP 36% (who are presumably voting out of pure intentions and not racism)?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ain-how-brexit-won-eu-explained-a7101676.html
A bit unreliable but 58% Tories voted leave while only 37% labour voters voted leave. So its the Cornish taking the wee.
Read my post carefully. I meant the labour voters who went ukip in the general election.
That huge ukip vote seems to have given Cameron a nosebleed that led to the referendum.
That sounds like wishful thinking to me. Someone earning £16500 might spend all their money but the lowest top rate tax payer earns £45000, at best they will be saving £10k of that and spending the rest. The savings will generally be invested in financial instruments that generate tax receipts and will also go in pensions that will ease the burden to the state when that earner is older. Generally people that are in the top rate bracket will add more value to the economy through their 'talent' as well.
Ah, that makes more sense, though the referendum was a manifesto promise and thus before the 2015 election. I'm trying to find the breakdown of UKIP voters by party but I remember that too was about 50-50 ex-Conservative/Labour voters that they won.
Edit: unless you're referring to local election between 2010 and 15, in which case I have no idea at all.
Well i would have voted for cameron just for the referendum, i said so on here at the time. So i dont buy the 'who'd have thought' mentality.
I dont jump out of planes with a parachute as there is a chance i might die.
Not at all. The billionaires in the world have more money than the billions of people, buts it's the latter's spending in that greases the wheels. Logic
So if you were living in the UK you would have voted Tory in 2015 just for the referendum, but at the time the chances of a brexit were minimal and you were in fact voting for a Tory government for another 5 years, yeah right, I bet millions of others did as well...............not
I was arguing for an open door immigration policy for immigrants with job offers that will put them in the top tax bracket. Beyond that the future immigration policy should be pragmatic.
Yes. Just for the referendum.
Youd be surprised how many people vote on one issue.
Not that many nurses in the top tax bracket. Not many Dr's start on a salary at that range either. Nor many Engineers.
So people on modest incomes will have to go through the expense and time of applying for a UK Visa. I take it from personal experience that the UK visa system is a mess.
But in that case why not just vote for UKIP, guaranteed a referendum, guaranteed divided society and guaranteed economic downturn ... oh hang on a minute....
Kinell.
No. If we needs nurses or whatever they will fast tracked i.e. pragmatism.
CANZUK would be fine by me. I could move to the Canadian wilderness.
Have you guys reached Madrid yet?
Going in via Catalonia. They're being very helpful.
We come full circle then. This nation with it's population hostile to foreigners and it's government desperate to hit an arbitrary migration target isn't going to be an attractive place to come
The Whiteosphere
We've sent in the SAS for a preliminary strike on Ronaldo. The CL will be back in English hands before you know it.
He's in favour of free movement of Canadians, Aussies and NZ's but they didn't say they will accept free movement of Brits in the opposite direction
I'll intercept them on their way through
So Messi will finally play in the EPL.
Good thinking! But betting on Leicester this season might call for some more invasions.
I'm not sure where you are going with this. The UK's population is forecast to grow more than any other European country over the next ten years, immigration will play a big part in that.
What kind of policy do you want to see?
Settle down. I don't think anyone takes CANZUK that seriously but all the countries mentioned are multicultural anyway and the cultural links are undeniable. The Queen is head of state of all them for a start and I have family or friends in all of them, as do many people in the U.K. Why not call the EU the 'whiteosphere'?
Who are you talking about? According to their WIKI page that is exactly what they want.
No not them, the governments
Do they? There are official government positions on this?
Why would you call the EU the whiteosphere? The Queen is also head of state of Papua new guinea, Barbados, Jamaica, Grenada, etc...
English people are of Germanic origin. All the other Germanic countries are in the EU. The Queen being head of state is only one aspect. Look up where the majority of British expats live and the histories of those countries and the cultural links are clear.
What would be the big deal if those countries had some sort of post Brexit free trade and FoM agreement be anyway?