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[Paul the Wolf]

But solely producing in GB, which is also their home and most important market. Jaguar might be the only car manufacturer actually benefitting from Brexit.

JLR have built a factory in Slovakia, I believe

 

[fcbforever]

JLR have built a factory in Slovakia, I believe

Haven't heard about that, it's not active yet though.
Needed to happen of course, the XE will never reach the needed margin if its still produced in GB.

 

[Classical Mechanic]

Haven't heard about that, it's not active yet though.
Needed to happen of course, the XE will never reach the needed margin if its still produced in GB.

They did make noises about leaving the UK in the event of a hard Brexit although I think they were looking to get their balls tickled a bit by the government like Nissan did.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

The diesel in the cars might be from the North Sea, certainly not from Germany or France.

Only 2.9% of refined petroleum and 2.7% of crude imported by France comes from the UK. Biggest suppliers are USA and Russia both at 14% for refined . For crude Saudi 19%, Kazakhstan and Nigeria both at 13%

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Haven't heard about that, it's not active yet though.
Needed to happen of course, the XE will never reach the needed margin if its still produced in GB.

Below is the article in French due to start production end of this year to supplement their factories in the UK, India, China and Brazil
http://media.jaguarlandrover.com/fr...ebute-la-construction-dune-usine-en-slovaquie

 

[fcbforever]

Below is the article in French due to start production end of this year to supplement their factories in the UK, India, China and Brazil
http://media.jaguarlandrover.com/fr...ebute-la-construction-dune-usine-en-slovaquie

Uhm...that might as well be in Suhaeli or me, sorry Why do you post it, just a TL;DR (or rather, can't read ).

 

[mitChley]

To add to this JLR also produce cars in China.

 

[Untied]

Literally bursting with war!

The stretched twig of peace is at melting point

 

[fcbforever]

To add to this JLR also produce cars in China.

Land Rover, that is. Different brand at least. But they don't care anyway, premim product people will buy regardless of small price changes, especially in the UK.
XE is the only problematic product for the company.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Uhm...that might as well be in Suhaeli or me, sorry Why do you post it, just a TL;DR (or rather, can't read ).

I was trying to get the article in English or German but it won't let me!!
In summary though they start a big recruitment drive at the end of 2017 and cars should start rolling off the production line by the end of 2018 (not this year as I said before) employing 2800 people with a yearly capacity of 150000 vehicles in a factory of 300000m2 using very modern technology

 

[fcbforever]

I was trying to get the article in English or German but it won't let me!!
In summary though they start a big recruitment drive at the end of 2017 and cars should start rolling off the production line by the end of 2018 (not this year as I said before) employing 2800 people with a yearly capacity of 150000 vehicles in a factory of 300000m2 using very modern technology

Ah, yeah, red that as well. Well, as I said, they need it for the XE.

 

[Ultimate Grib]

I accept currencies go up and down yes, like when the pound was 1.05 dollars. It came back up. So feckin what?

It came back up because the US decided to devalue their currency as it's economy was too strong and exports were suffering. What we have now is not a controlled devaluation, it's because of Brexit. As I said to Chorley consequences are already happening. I suggest you don't get involved into other peoples conversations and go off on a completely different irrelevant tangent.

 

[Stanley Road]

It came back up because the US decided to devalue their currency as it's economy was too strong and exports were suffering. What we have now is not a controlled devaluation, it's because of Brexit. As I said to Chorley consequences are already happening. I suggest you don't get involved into other peoples conversations and go off on a completely different irrelevant tangent.

What the feck,.were you around when it was 1.05?

I suggest you stop patronising people and confirming my opinion of the average remainer. Tw@

 

[Ubik]

If they try and spend £500m to change the colour of passports, who's up for some war?

 

[711]

And now Spain say they will not block a Scottish application to the EU. Who'd have guessed.

 

[Don't Kill Bill]

What the feck???? Do you honestly believe this shit you're spouting? You've managed to write down so many things which are either distorting the truth or just plain factually incorrect, that I don't know where to start.. I'm flabbergasted! There's nothing more difficult than arguing with a fool!!

Pick one point and let's see.

 

[Ultimate Grib]

What the feck,.were you around when it was 1.05?

I suggest you stop patronising people and confirming my opinion of the average remainer. Tw@

Yeah I was 2 and in the US. You sound like a petulant child throwing insults around so doesn't seem like you were.

I stand by what I said because you were simply making irrelevant points as you have done all over this thread. You get involved just for the sake of being involved and add nothing to the conversation.

 

[Stanley Road]

Yeah I was 2 and in the US. You sound like a petulant child throwing insults around so doesn't seem like you were.

I stand by what I said because you were simply making irrelevant points as you have done all over this thread. You get involved just for the sake of being involved and add nothing to the conversation.

Well i was 20 at the time and remember it well. You on the other hand had amazing insight into currency rates for a 2 year old.

 

[Ultimate Grib]

Well i was 20 at the time and remember it well. You on the other hand had amazing insight into currency rates for a 2 year old.

So you're a 52 year old manchild who aspires to go back to the good old days of Maggie T where racism, sexism and peadophilia among other things were ok as long as they were covered up nice and tight and swept under the carpet and none of those pesky 4N Poles were stealing your job all the while your 20 tea breaks and strike days off work were protected by your union. Got it.

 

[711]

So you're a 52 year old manchild who aspires to go back to the good old days of Maggie T where racism, sexism and peadophilia among other things were ok as long as they were covered up nice and tight and swept under the carpet and none of those pesky 4N Poles were stealing your job all the while your 20 tea breaks and strike days off work were protected by your union. Got it.

I remember Stanley when he was a Thatcherite trade union priest. We all were in those days.

 

[Ady87]

Not so sure. Even if GB might lose the #1 spot for them, the nature of their products means they aren't that vulnerable to price increases. People buying Jaguars and Land Rovers don't really care, they have the money and they will have it in the future as well.
It might be bad for them if they were about to lose market share in the company car segment (which tends to be a lot more sensitive to even small changes in prices and leasing rates), but they are non-existent there anyway due to their terrible resale value. They will be fine.

Is that actually still the case with the newer XE and XF models? Our company has hundreds of leased XE's and XF's. Okay there are just as many leased Mercedes but I see an overwhelming number of Jags in our car parks.

 

[Adisa]

And now Spain say they will not block a Scottish application to the EU. Who'd have guessed.

Brexiteers are about to get a hard dose of reality. I'd be smug if it didn't affect me.

 

[fcbforever]

Is that actually still the case with the newer XE and XF models? Our company has hundreds of leased XE's and XF's. Okay there are just as many leased Mercedes but I see an overwhelming number of Jags in our car parks.

I assume you live in Britiain? Different there of course, but we were speaking about the effects on their exports. On the continent, it's impossible to get a Jaguar pretty much, to get one to have to give up pretty much 15k € in list price. So to say, you can have a 55k Mercedes or a 40k Jaguar.

Edit: just checked: as of now, the resale value of an XE drops nearly 4 times as fast as for an comparable Audi A4. No wonder no company gives you one.

 

[NinjaFletch]

'Bloody scaremongering Remoaners suggesting that Brexit could lead to war, how hysterical of them. feck YOU SPAIN HOW ABOUT SOME GOOD OLD FASHIONED GUNBOAT DIPLOMACY.'

Good old Leave hypocrisy.

 

[Sassy Colin]

Woo hoo, lets go to war with Spain!

I have never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life.

And still, no one has come out with 1 single tangible benefit of leaving Europe, nothing at all that actually makes a difference for the better.

 

[Kentonio]

And still, no one has come out with 1 single tangible benefit of leaving Europe, nothing at all that actually makes a difference for the better.

Oh I don't know, it's proven an invaluable way of identifying the people in society who it would be a good idea to avoid.

 

[Sassy Colin]

Oh I don't know, it's proven an invaluable way of identifying the people in society who it would be a good idea to avoid.

That's most people in society, tbf.

 

[Kentonio]

Interim EU trade deal to hit UK services hard

Diplomatic momentum is growing in Brussels for an interim trade deal with the U.K. that sets no tariffs on manufactured goods and food but restricts British services such as aviation and finance.

In public, the remaining 27 EU countries insist they will keep trade talks with the U.K. off the agenda until they have finalized the core elements of the divorce settlement: citizens’ rights and Britain’s multi-billion euro departure bill. Behind the scenes, however, EU trade attachés are already liaising at an informal level on how the EU27 can leverage their superior economic muscle in trade talks.

Trade diplomats from four EU27 countries said the idea gaining most traction in early discussions was a transitional deal with the U.K. in which the two parties would pay zero tariffs on each other’s goods. This would take effect immediately after Britain leaves the block in March 2019 as a prelude to a full free-trade agreement, which would probably take many more years to negotiate. Two of the diplomats said the team of European Commission Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier had floated the idea.

A zero-tariff deal on goods has immediate attractions for the U.K. but it is no silver bullet because other regulatory barriers such as compliance paperwork could be severe. Cars from Japanese factories in Britain, for example, could still face trade restrictions because of EU demands about “rules of origin.” Brussels would be likely to argue that not enough of the parts and technology used to build the vehicles qualify as British. This means car exports from the U.K. would not necessarily enjoy the same free access they had while Britain was a full member of the EU customs union.

The omission of services raises even bigger problems for London: Companies from banks and insurers to budget airlines like easyJet and Ryanair could find themselves shouldered out of the all-important EU market.

One trade attaché said a transitional tariffs-only trade accord would avoid “falling off the cliff-edge” but the U.K. would still be notably “worse off” because of the blow to its service sector and other regulatory challenges. The diplomats added that the zero tariff offer was unlikely to be possible if the initial divorce talks failed to reach a settlement.

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-sketches-out-interim-uk-trade-deal-that-hits-services-hard/
http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-sketches-out-interim-uk-trade-deal-that-hits-services-hard/
Ouch.

 

[Unmutual]

http://www.politico.eu/article/eu-sketches-out-interim-uk-trade-deal-that-hits-services-hard/
Ouch.

We're going to get a crappy deal, that much is obvious. Im more interested to know who the Brextremists will blame. Because they won't blame themselves, that's for sure.

 

[Kentonio]

We're going to get a crappy deal, that much is obvious. Im more interested to know who the Brextremists will blame. Because they won't blame themselves, that's for sure.

1. The vile EU for not acting like the proper subservient foreigners they're supposed to be
2. 'Remoaners' for not securing the country the incredible deal we were never going to get
3. Nicola Sturgeon and Scotland

 

[Sly]

@carvajal When Britain invades, you can come to Lisbon, i´ll gladly help out.

 

[711]

We're going to get a crappy deal, that much is obvious. Im more interested to know who the Brextremists will blame. Because they won't blame themselves, that's for sure.

I don't know about Brextremists but as a Remainer I place the greatest blame on Cameron, most of the Conservative party, and anyone who voted Conservative at the last general election.

 

[Stanley Road]

So you're a 52 year old manchild who aspires to go back to the good old days of Maggie T where racism, sexism and peadophilia among other things were ok as long as they were covered up nice and tight and swept under the carpet and none of those pesky 4N Poles were stealing your job all the while your 20 tea breaks and strike days off work were protected by your union. Got it.

 

[Stanley Road]

I don't know about Brextremists but as a Remainer I place the greatest blame on Cameron, most of the Conservative party, and anyone who voted Conservative at the last general election.

That'd be Marching then, there must be others on here that voted tory & remain

 

[Paul the Wolf]

At least the Gibraltar problem diverts attention away from the Irish Border question.

As everyone is now happy and united under May's dictatorial plan, as long as no-one disagrees everything will be fine.

Haven't checked the latest odds but guess 4/5 Civil war 6/4 War with Spain 3/1 War with Ireland 100/1 War of the Roses

 

[Stanley Road]

All we are saying, is give war a chance

 

[AshfordLad]

I don't know about Brextremists but as a Remainer I place the greatest blame on Cameron, most of the Conservative party, and anyone who voted Conservative at the last general election.

Its the old labour voting racists up north who switched to ukip who should be blamed for this.

All we are saying, is give war a chance

Seeing the position of that comma, you are unlikely to win any war so lay off it.

 

[Ubik]

I don't know about Brextremists but as a Remainer I place the greatest blame on Cameron, most of the Conservative party, and anyone who voted Conservative at the last general election.

Definitely Cameron, worst PM of my lifetime.

 

[711]

Its the old labour voting racists up north who switched to ukip who should be blamed for this.

It was Tory Cameron that put the referendum in his manifesto, and Tory voters who voted him in power to enact it. Vote Leave was mostly Tory: Johnson, Gove, Fox et al. A huge section of the Tory party, if not the majority, have always been against the EU. Most Labour voters went Remain.
You asked the question who's to blame, there's no wriggling out of the answer now because it doesn't suit. This was a Tory cock-up.

 

[C.M.P]

That'd be Marching then, there must be others on here that voted tory & remain

Yo,

I also blame big Dave but feck me the remain campaign was shite it nearly had me voting out, piss poor.