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Report about British expats (obviously not foreigners, Britons can only be expats) in Spain and Brexit:


Some of those mindsets are just hilarious:wenger:

:lol: The first guy is a racket.
How can people benefiting from something so beautiful be so ignorant?
 
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Just pointing out that they have stuck by possibly one their biggest decisions, its not often a tory sticks to a promise. Maybe these decisions will be both their downfalls, who knows.

I'd imagine the people affected by child tax credits would think of that as quite big...
 
Report about British expats (obviously not foreigners, Britons can only be expats) in Spain and Brexit:


Some of those mindsets are just hilarious:wenger:


I would quite like to take control of my tax payments, so the guy that voted Brexit but wants to stay in Spain can pay his own way. What drivel these people spew.
 
Report about British expats (obviously not foreigners, Britons can only be expats) in Spain and Brexit:


Some of those mindsets are just hilarious:wenger:

It's a Guardian piece, so it's an equally agendra-driven as you'd find in the DM, but yep, it is mind-boggling the hypocrisy and sheer stupidity. Most British ex-pats I've met around the world have been odious tbh, really treating the locals with massive disdain.
 
It's a Guardian piece, so it's an equally agendra-driven as you'd find in the DM, but yep, it is mind-boggling the hypocrisy and sheer stupidity. Most British ex-pats I've met around the world have been odious tbh, really treating the locals with massive disdain.

Its also happening in my country, which is ironic considering that the island thrived once they kicked the Brits out and gained independence.
 
It's a Guardian piece, so it's an equally agendra-driven as you'd find in the DM, but yep, it is mind-boggling the hypocrisy and sheer stupidity. Most British ex-pats I've met around the world have been odious tbh, really treating the locals with massive disdain.

Tbf it's a balanced piece. Amazing the way the massive upside of freedom of movement for Britains in Europe has been willingly sacrificed over intangible threats about immigration.
 
Tbf it's a balanced piece. Amazing the way the massive upside of freedom of movement for Britains in Europe has been willingly sacrificed over intangible threats about immigration.
They led in on that utter clown, which we all would've tbf. The annoying conundrum is that it'll serve them right if Spain boots them out -despite their belief that they prop up its economy- but do we really want them back?
 
They led in on that utter clown, which we all would've tbf. The annoying conundrum is that it'll serve them right if Spain boots them out -despite their belief that they prop up its economy- but do we really want them back?

Probably not. And they're probably right about Uk pensions being pissed away on the Costa Del Sol helping the Spanish economy. It's a quid pro quo situation, with the only downside to being the absolute state of the "ghetto" and its inhabitants. It seems so incredibly obvious that freedom of movement within the EU is the best situation for everyone. Fecking over so many people to win cheap votes by exploiting xenophobia is shameful. There's no two ways about it.
 
Probably not. And they're probably right about Uk pensions being pissed away on the Costa Del Sol helping the Spanish economy. It's a quid pro quo situation, with the only downside to being the absolute state of the "ghetto" and its inhabitants. It seems so incredibly obvious that freedom of movement within the EU is the best situation for everyone. Fecking over so many people to win cheap votes by exploiting xenophobia is shameful. There's no two ways about it.

I think when you include their healthcare costs they're actually a net-burden to Spanish society. I'm sure there was a study on it around the time of the referendum. Either way, it seems that the government are far from keen to have them back.
 
Probably not. And they're probably right about Uk pensions being pissed away on the Costa Del Sol helping the Spanish economy. It's a quid pro quo situation, with the only downside to being the absolute state of the "ghetto" and its inhabitants. It seems so incredibly obvious that freedom of movement within the EU is the best situation for everyone. Fecking over so many people to win cheap votes by exploiting xenophobia is shameful. There's no two ways about it.
Yep, the road to mass protectionism is surely one littered with problems. I guess these people genuinely believe the immigration threat, regardless of evidence. The stat on EU nurses leaving should be a wake up call, but probably won't be.
 
JIPPY and POGUE.....

I think you'll find that the EU operates the biggest protectionist market in the whole world.

Isn't that what the Single Market is ? Pay to be a member, or you can't sell into it.

Now what has Freedon of Movement got to do with buying and selling stuff to other countries inside the Single Market and EU ?

I'm one of those who has never understood how the two are inextricably linked - other than it's just the EU ideal for one huge Federal States of Europe and which is what the majority of people in the UK voted to opt out of.

If you want to call that xenophobic, go ahead. But like I said the other day, it's no more xenophobic than the EU preventing Africans and Asians freely entering and settling inside the EU, but we're not allowed to call the EU xenophobic or racist, just the UK.
 
JIPPY and POGUE.....

I think you'll find that the EU operates the biggest protectionist market in the whole world.

Isn't that what the Single Market is ? Pay to be a member, or you can't sell into it.

Now what has Freedon of Movement got to do with buying and selling stuff to other countries inside the Single Market and EU ?

I'm one of those who has never understood how the two are inextricably linked - other than it's just the EU ideal for one huge Federal States of Europe and which is what the majority of people in the UK voted to opt out of.

If you want to call that xenophobic, go ahead. But like I said the other day, it's no more xenophobic than the EU preventing Africans and Asians freely entering and settling inside the EU, but we're not allowed to call the EU xenophobic or racist, just the UK.
I guess the link is freedom of movement of goods, services and people. You'd rather be inside the world's biggest trading bloc than outside.
Every country naturally has some degree of border control to manage costs and resources as much as anything.
 
JIPPY and POGUE.....

I think you'll find that the EU operates the biggest protectionist market in the whole world.

Isn't that what the Single Market is ? Pay to be a member, or you can't sell into it.

Now what has Freedon of Movement got to do with buying and selling stuff to other countries inside the Single Market and EU ?

I'm one of those who has never understood how the two are inextricably linked - other than it's just the EU ideal for one huge Federal States of Europe and which is what the majority of people in the UK voted to opt out of.

If you want to call that xenophobic, go ahead. But like I said the other day, it's no more xenophobic than the EU preventing Africans and Asians freely entering and settling inside the EU, but we're not allowed to call the EU xenophobic or racist, just the UK.

Don't worry, that's part of the conditions that India want to do a trade deal with the UK, as does Australia and more than likely African countries as well. In other words nothing would change , just the nationality of the people.
 
the word “Expatriate” is actually a verb or an adjective and means someone “living in a foreign land”.
  • the word “Immigrant” is a noun and means “a person who comes to a country to take permanent residence”.

To be pedantic an Expatriate in a noun and there are a lot of Polish expatriates living in the UK:)
 
To be pedantic an Expatriate in a noun and there are a lot of Polish expatriates living in the UK:)
I was reading an article about a Canadian immigrant that was living in the states and now calls himself an expat in Vienna.

"I lived in the United States as a Canadian immigrant for over 15 years. My family decided to move down south for economic reasons. It was a permanent move I’m very happy we made.

Until we received our US citizenship, though, we were immigrants. We would have loved to have been expats, but you can’t just live and work on both sides of the border without a lot of paperwork involved. That’s the nature of modern government."
 
I was reading an article about a Canadian immigrant that was living in the states and now calls himself an expat in Vienna.

"I lived in the United States as a Canadian immigrant for over 15 years. My family decided to move down south for economic reasons. It was a permanent move I’m very happy we made.

Until we received our US citizenship, though, we were immigrants. We would have loved to have been expats, but you can’t just live and work on both sides of the border without a lot of paperwork involved. That’s the nature of modern government."

Makes them feel more posh or superior if they call themselves Expats rather than plain immigrants
 
I guess the link is freedom of movement of goods, services and people. You'd rather be inside the world's biggest trading bloc than outside.
Every country naturally has some degree of border control to manage costs and resources as much as anything.

But inside the EU, the degree of border control available to individual countries is zero, zilch, nada, niente....So managing costs and resources is exactly the problem that so many people in the UK worry about.

Don't worry, that's part of the conditions that India want to do a trade deal with the UK, as does Australia and more than likely African countries as well. In other words nothing would change , just the nationality of the people.

You're probably correct - which is why I'm sure some sorts of deals will be done around a controlled visa/points system for Commonwealth countries.
 
Re the ex-pats in Spain, I don't think they're such a burden nowadays. Not all of them are entitled to more than primary service attention, which means only to the level of family doctor. If they have the money, they probably have private medical insurance as well, which is quite big in Spain.

The tourist industry in parts of the med is mainly Brits, from weekend stag/hen parties to packages and long term stay and retirement, it provides a massive income for the economy.
 
FCBforever....

Like I said last time - you really are an insulting little twat, aren't you.

As many people have said the past few hundred years - it's easy to love Germany, just difficult to love arrogant germans.

Edted to add that I just showed your post to my wife.

She's German.

And she agrees with me.

The Germans are arrogant. The English are arrogant AND ignorant!

I'm English btw.