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Just putting all the documents together I need to become a French citizen. Maximum time to know if I'm successful is within one year.

The cost is rather prohibitive though, bit different from the UK. A grand total of €55.

I got 20 out of 20 on a German citizenship test on facebook. The answers were all very guessable though. Also the questions were in English, I'd have been a bit fecked it they were in German.
 
I got 20 out of 20 on a German citizenship test on facebook. The answers were all very guessable though. Also the questions were in English, I'd have been a bit fecked it they were in German.

Is that it?

I speak french fluently but because of my age I don't need to pass a test or even answer questions about France other than a simple oral conversation. I would need a diploma if I was younger.
Because I am obtaining citizenship by being married to a French person it is much more simple, although not massively difficult as the UK. It would be more complicated if I was applying and not having a french connection but nothing like the UK.

Also the form is only one page. Again the above circumstances apply.
 
May's government scrapped the 2020 target though. My point is these cuts were always going to happen and probably would have been even worse if we stayed in the EU and Cameron held onto power.

Didn't the government just announce record receipts for tax?
Assuming the predictions of an economic downturn become true, and even a hard brexiteer admits that some kind of downturn is likely, a more severe downturn by remainers , the receipts from tax are likely to be considerably less after leaving the EU, thus even more cuts should be anticipated after an EU exit.
 
May's government scrapped the 2020 target though. My point is these cuts were always going to happen and probably would have been even worse if we stayed in the EU and Cameron held onto power.

The difference being that if we'd stayed the cuts wouldn't have been because of the EU, just because the country was dumb enough to believe in an austerity government.
 
Lawther said Nissan was looking for a bundle of measures in Brexit negotiations and had made “a strong request” to the government to ensure Britain stayed in the customs union.

A World Trade Organisation alternative would be a financial “disaster” with a 10% tariff on exports costing the company up to £500m a year, he added.

Customs checks on freight in and out of the plant would also be a problem, Lawther said, with every minute factored into the business costs.

“Take Sunderland. We hold about half a day’s stock inside the plant itself, and that’s continuously replenished. Every day we use about 5m parts; 5m have to come into the plant, they have to get fitted to the right car and we build two cars every minute,” Lawther said.

“We talk about minutes; we’re talking two, three, four, six minutes’ downtime a day interruption is a disaster.”

The overseas content of Nissan cars would have to be reduced by about half if the cars were to be deemed British under WTO rules of origin.

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...pport-supply-chain-nissan-sunderland-car-auto
 
The government has been defeated after the House of Lords said ministers should guarantee EU nationals' right to stay in the UK after Brexit.

Peers have voted in favour of amendment 9B to the EU (Notification of Withdrawal) Bill by 358 votes to 256 - a majority of 102.

The amendment means the government must bring forward proposals to ensure the rights of EU citizens in the UK post-Brexit within three months of triggering Article 50.

However, MPs will be able to remove their changes when the bill returns to the House of Commons.

Ministers say the issue is a priority but must be part of a deal protecting UK expats overseas.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39133400
 
Is democracy rearing its ugly head in the UK?

As the Brexiteers cry " It's not this type of democracy we want, off with their heads!!"
i'm just watching a dutch program called Uit Europa that covers the hatred of the eu across Europe, right now there is a French farmer that has to give up his dairy cows, "I hate the eu, I don't want to talk about Europe" he says. I imagine this is the view of many French farmers

You should watch it.
 
I don't see the point in returning the bill to the House of Commons, the Government should just accept the amendment and move on.
There is no way the EU is going to refuse British expats the right to stay in their countries. Though i wouldn't put it past the Conservatives, i don't think they'd have used the EU citizens as a bargaining chip.
It'd have been nice to have a bilateral agreement to protect UK citizens in the EU, but i imagine that'd be sorted out quick enough
 
I don't see the point in returning the bill to the House of Commons, the Government should just accept the amendment and move on.
There is no way the EU is going to refuse British expats the right to stay in their countries. Though i wouldn't put it past the Conservatives, i don't think they'd have used the EU citizens as a bargaining chip.
It'd have been nice to have a bilateral agreement to protect UK citizens in the EU, but i imagine that'd be sorted out quick enough

Of course it will. The EU have consistently maintained they will not discuss or negotiate anything until after article 50 is delivered. It's a non-story.
 
Of course it will. The EU have consistently maintained they will not discuss or negotiate anything until after article 50 is delivered. It's a non-story.
And the quickest way to get everything resolved is to get Article 50 triggered and enter into negotiations.
If the government decide to try and get this amendment overturned, then it shows that they either have little intention of securing the rights of EU citizens, or they feel that the EU is going to play hardball over UK citizens in Europe. The simplest and easiest solution would be to accept the amendment, get the bill to Royal Ascent and get on with things. From what i understand, this amendment only seeks that the Goverment provides proposals on ensuring the Citizens that are legally resident in the UK are allowed to stay within the first 3 months of triggering Article 50. These issues should be sorted out withing 3 months regardless of there being an amendment.
 
i'm just watching a dutch program called Uit Europa that covers the hatred of the eu across Europe, right now there is a French farmer that has to give up his dairy cows, "I hate the eu, I don't want to talk about Europe" he says. I imagine this is the view of many French farmers

You should watch it.

I've seen the french farmers moaning about the french government as well.
You will also see the english farmers moaning when their EU funding dries up.
 
The house of lords may be right or they may be wrong, but either way they are certainly not democratic.

Not saying it is democratic, the EU is far more democratic than the UK system but the UK didn't want that, they wanted their country back, this is the way the country has been run for donkeys years.
 
I've seen the french farmers moaning about the french government as well.
You will also see the english farmers moaning when their EU funding dries up.
This was a french dairy farmer that had to send his cows to slaughter cos of new eu rules. He was in tears but thats ok.

Then some eastern europeans were interviewed in the uk. 1.90 per hour they get paid for working in the fields.

Gotta love this EUtopia
 
Eu cant demand before that yet they still do. When will you start to get that?

Then why do they want guarantees before talks begin. tell me that

Some countries will not start talking until Article 50 has been triggered. Officially the UK haven't handed in their resignation letter, how can they discuss these things without it. Maybe they never will trigger article 50, then what.

If it was the other way round I would expect the EU to act first but it's the UK leaving and putting EU and UK citizens in difficulty as a result of their actions, not the EU's actions. If the Uk weren't leaving none of this would be happening.

I've seen posts on facebook, newspaper comments etc from Brexiteers who think that it is the EU holding up the triggering of Article 50. The same kind of people also think that the Uk leaves the EU the day they trigger Article 50 and the same people then complain that they are considered stupid by the Remainers