They already have where I live and they still voted leave.
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They already have where I live and they still voted leave.
Well then you live in the only part of the uk with decent transport, where's that.
People voting for what they belive in needs to be commended. Well done your town
Ok. It deserves a prize for being the best non sequitur in the thread.
And I am now entirely confused as to your point. Can we agree that Will is wrong?
'I was wrong' probably would have been simpler.
So patriotic that they don't want money, and I bet they consciously made that choice. A true example to the rest of the country!
The one saving grace, in the week after the referendum, was places like Cornwall asking for their money to be guaranteed after voting Leave.
Let's not forget the Welsh UKIP politician who wanted the Welsh First Minister to see if Ireland could get EU funds for them to rebuild a motorway in Wales. Clever Brexit logic 101.
You live in Holland. Even if you lived in one of the main areas that benefits it is only when the funding goes away that most will notice. No way will a Tory government continue funding such projects.
When we forge new relationships with India, China and the rest of the western exploited countries in Asia industry will boom again for sure. I mean there's no reason for it not to surely. Its not like those are big industrial countries with heaps of cheap labour that would price out British industry. No siree Bob!
People want something for nothing. They want their jobs secured despite it making no sense whatsoever for those jobs to even exist. It's not socialism. Deal with it!
Will is a Brexiteer. He's no exception. So yes we are in agreement.
Phew
Get on with it then, stop trying to pretend you give damn and deal with the Brexit vote while you are at it.
Give a damn about what? The country going in the toilet? I give a damn about that much more than any of those idiots who think pigs will fly.
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Especially not for building a fence on your farm like one poster gets ffs
you are upset about eveything, suck it up
Does funding come from contributions?
Our retail outlets already use these places for slave labour, in the eu or not.
The country has been going to the toilet for years, nothing changed since a vote.
I feel like there's supposed to be a point to this post.
Something did change, we pressed the flush button.
It's all Nick Cleggs fault to be honest, he took the people's trust and screwed them even harder then they could have ever imagined. Five years of tory squeeze, cuts and mismanagement needed a scapegoat. T'was the immigrants that bloody done it rabble rabble rabble and here we are.
Screw you Nick Clegg!
Well, I grew up in Haltemprice & Howden, David Davis' safe Tory seat in East Yorkshire and outside of the urban areas, northern England was a sea of blue.
The government's Brexit white paper stated that two thirds of financial services in the UK are outside of London, so cut your nose off to spite your own face.
You seem hellbent on dragging else down to the worst level of misery in the country. Nice plan.
Doom was my last name, first name was Misery.....
So goes the blues
So goes the blues
Bullshit to your north / south divide, it's a clued up /clueless divide and those wanting to trash the pitifully few successful sectors of our economy like finance because it will hurt London fail to see that any hurt the British GDP suffers will be felt by all and will be hardest felt by those who already had least. I'm as northern as they come but chose to move south for work if I wanted career progression with the bonus of the occasional break from the rain and self pity; as far south as Perth WA and Singapore at one point. I've remained staunchly labour and waste my vote whenever I am back in my adopted home in Tunbridge Wells as they would elect a poodle if you stuck a blue rosette on it yet we were the only non-metropolitan area in the whole of England to vote remain and our MP honoured his consituents wishes by voting against the signing of Article 50.
My sister on the other hand who remains in the labour heartlands in the northern powerhouse votes tory as she considers herself middle class, is as Daily Maily as they come and voted leave because her job is related to the steel industry and the EU have ruined it, she still fails to accept that the EU tried to block Chinese imports whilst dodgy Dave signed the deals that wrote off Port Talbot and Redcar just as she continues to believe all sorts of shite about bananas, benefit Britain and those immigrants.
When was the last time the North of England Voted Tory though? They didn't vote for the referendum party you guys did.
So when I compare and contrast your views about that monumental cock up you remain strangely silent and sanguine regarding that side of the Brexit equation.
I don't want to see anyone lose their jobs North or South and it is not me wishing ill on those who voted the other way to me in the referendum to serve them right.
It does strike me, that this all got taken much more seriously when jobs based mostly in the south get threatened and the bile that pours out is telling.
Why is your focus on who is to blame for Brexit, not on the Welsh, East Anglia or Kent?
Much easier to scapegoat Sunderland and the North.
I'm not seeing it that much in this thread.
I dont think the shape and size of fruit is given enough consideration, we pay people to actually discuss shit like this when no one gives a toss.
I'm not demonising the north- I'm northern. As for the potential job losses, I pointed out that apparently two thirds of financial services jobs are based outside of London and the Nissan factory is obviously near Sunderland.
Er, you sure the north, outside of the urban areas, didn't vote Tory?
Wow, I never thought of that, if you discount most of the people who live in the North and vote Labour then it voted conservative. Well done you proved your point, I'm wrong, paint me blue and call me Tarquin.
England is predominantly Tory, Tarquin, much as it pains you.
If square-footage could vote, we'd have permanent Tory rule. Though to be fair at the current rate...
People voted tory cos they wanted a referendum
Not really.
Well they knew what they were getting so yes really
No, it was mainly because Labour were so piss poor, had many years to address issues important to the voters, and again proved themselves to be economically incompetent despite having a period of prosperity gifted them.
People voted Tory for many reasons: some did so due to ideological reasons, party loyalty, tactical reasons, a belief they were economically competent, a belief Cameron was a good leader, and some perceived Ed Miliband as a weak alternative, and his party as one who couldn't be trusted. The prospect of an EU referendum was, at best, a minimal reason.
So you're saying Tory voters were a bit bleeding thick then, because now the referendum seems to be the biggest thing since world war two for many, yet Tory plans couldn't have been made clearer in the election campaign.
Just admit people who voted Tory yet who are vehemently opposed to Brexit have only themselves to blame and we can move on.
Just admit people who voted Tory yet who are vehemently opposed to Brexit have only themselves to blame and we can move on.
People who voted Tory voted for a referendum. For the vast majority that wasn't why they voted Tory but it was one of the consequences their vote carried.
@Cheesy has it right, the vast majority assumed that the Tories couldn't get a majority and that a referendum would go by the wayside in negotiations with the Lib Dems. Though I also have sympathy with the idea that Tory voting remainers brought it on themselves.
I also think it's worth noting that the general perception was often that a referendum would be for Remain: the main voice for Leave was the highly divisive Farage whose party had only a couple of Tory defecting MP's from by-elections, and Cameron had managed to create a perception of his party being more pro-EU than they really were. There was no guarantee of key names like Boris and Gove jumping in for a Leave campaign at the time...and the vote was often originally touted to be in 2017, which meant it would've felt like a long time away from any major vote.
I do think those who voted Tory in 2015 should've been aware at the time that no matter how liberal Cameron and Osborne may have appeared on certain issues and no matter how European they may have touted their party as being, they were ultimately always siding with a party that's deeply Eurosceptic at its core.