So the lies of Cameron swayed you more than the lies of Boris and gove?
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When 2 big feet in the EU come out and say its fecked then its fecked., no matter what we think
The worst are the faux-remainers
Absolutely not. I have knowledge of the EU from more than just the referendum campaign. University for one and just general interest in the topic ever since I have been an adult which ties in nicely with wider European history.
I was very disappointed by the referendum campaign, on both sides. However, I felt the burden was on the Leave side to prove there was a future outside the EU given the UK economy was in good shape. All I saw were lies and lack of planning combined with Murdoch lackeys trying to take back control for their Fox News overlord.
Its not about history anymore, its about economics, unfairness and disappointment .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38540813
Someone should explain to him that this is what happens when you feed the xenophobic monster
Brexit means brexit. He can make a success out of it
Someone should explain to him that this is what happens when you feed the xenophobic monster
Brexit means brexit. He can make a success out of it
Brexit will save him money and cost the tories. win win
The Tories are a sorry excuse for a party. The only thing that seems to unite them is lust for power. That seems to be enough currently, unfortunately.
Its always been the way with any politician, just look at Tsipras in Greece, a total turncoat.
Economists have completely failed us. They’re no better than Mystic Meg
On Brexit and the 2008 crash their predictions – distorted by politics – were utterly wrong. The profession owes the public an inquest and an apology
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...onomists-economic-policy-brexit-crash-failure
On Brexit and the 2008 crash their predictions – distorted by politics – were utterly wrong. The profession owes the public an inquest and an apology
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...onomists-economic-policy-brexit-crash-failure
Read that. But if we wait long enough their predictions will be right. Economy is bound to tank sometime cos that's how boom and bust economies work, then they can say "told you so" and blame it on Brexit.
We're still waiting, they should have devised a plan by the time May takes her old age pension
Who needs plans when you can just wing it
I thought winging it was the plan
Egg Sack LeeI thought winging it was the plan
Jamie Oliver has just announced he's shutting 6 restaurants, apparently due to Brexit lol, cue any failing business blamed on brexit 
Well actually they saidJamie Oliver has just announced he's shutting 6 restaurants, apparently due to Brexit lol, cue any failing business blamed on brexit
And even the most ukippy types must accept that there has been a pretty big fall in the exchange rate
And also they said in general the trading conditions were tough... just that Brexit (ie exchange rate uncertainty was an extra factor)... they never said it was the reason / sole cause
Heard that yesterday, he obviously doesn't read pauls postsJamie Oliver has just announced he's shutting 6 restaurants, apparently due to Brexit lol, cue any failing business blamed on brexit
there has been a big drop in the strength of the pound, but it's not at an all time low, pretty shit excuse from oliver
I've read poor reviews of his restaurants and would never want to line his pockets. He should look closer to home.
He'll probably have to close the lot when the Uk finally leave as it will be difficult selling pork pies and steak and kidney pies in an Italian restaurant
Well I've canned a several million pound factory we were building and we are now building in france also had to let over a quarter of our staff go due to the fall in the pound so yeah it matters quite a lot actually.
I mean you don't price your goods based on 1930s exchange rates do you...
We are currently pricing at parity for 3 month + which is over a 40% difference to less than a year ago
In fairness there was so much salt in the pasta we had we sent it back and have never even considered going back there so there may be some truth in that... though I think the majority of his restaurants still make money
Of course it does, but what do you think the impact of XR is on his business, please elaborate? People, and buildings are the biggest costs, and the ingredients are mostly sourced locally, no? He is a big advocate of locally sourced ingredients, see his populist campaigning. Stop clutching at straws and admit that it's disingenuous to say the least to blame his restaurant closures on brexit?
I've never actually eaten at one of his joints and there's one about 15 mins walk away from us. I just have an irrational dislike of the man.
It's disingenuous to say that's what he blamed it on actually... if you look at what they said they talk about footfall at those restaurants (note they are keeping 40 open and opening 22 more this year) they simply added that in the struggling restaurants the increased uncertainty and cost of ingredients was one factor in the decision
So the headline becomes he is closing because of Brexit and some people are stuipd enough just believe thats the truth and that he must be a remoaner blah blah blah
As every restaurant owner knows, this is a tough market and post-Brexit the pressures and unknowns have made it even harder,” said Simon Blagden, chief executive of the Jamie Oliver Restaurant Group.
So no link to Brexit then......
Actually a small link due to exchange rstes as they said themselves you know like in the quote from them... but the major link was made by the media and swallowed hook like and sinker by those with a Brexit dominated agenda
Does seem a bit odd tbf. Consumer spending and confidence are high and unemployment low. Maybe his restaurants reached saturation point or are just shit.
Consumer confidence and spending was also great in 2006, I bet. It means nothing if people are funding an unsustainable lifestyle through a mixture of borrowing and running down their savings. Hardly the hallmarks of a healthy economy.
Nobody is saying that he didn't link it to Brexit though. Just that there's a rather obvious difference between "Brexit was a factor" and "Brexit is to blame". All they said was the former but the headline leads people to think they said the latter.
Which funnily enough seems to have been the policy of successive governments
http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk
About £50,000 per tax payer at the moment... so yeah hardly the hallmark of a healthy economy
My original point was two fold, firstly that it was a very lame excuse to in any way to link brexit to closures at present, and secondly that this is going to be a standard business failure fallback position.
I have not looked up the funding structure of jamies italian.... but if I want to go to the press and say something i need sign off from private investors and banks and it has to be true or their legal teams won't let me say it.
I suspect if they said it then perhaps they know more about their business than anybody else and the shareholders probably wouldn't want them going out making potentially politically charged points based on a falsehood...
Even more so in failed businesses where an administrator is brought in and has a legal duty to be factual with any information so as to be fair to creditors and potential investors
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Wtf, the statement was about PR, not to the market.
The business has not failed, he's closing six restaurants and is blaming it on Brexit, the business is not being wound up. I suspect you are doing the latter to me, WUM.
And you think any pr statement does not go through the investors... it's a 100m + company... it has banks money in there and you don't go making those type of statements without having them cleared (abn Amro and hsbc for me plus a very rich chap... but all approve things... especially if I was to want to say something like brexit and it was likely to be a bbc news top 10 story!)
I remember when I first came to Holland, restaurants busy during the week, then came the euro, mass closures as prices went up by 60%.