Whats the Stanley way?
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I considering changing the post because its not nice to take digs and people on new years eve. However the Stanley way is slagging off the EU while fighting desperately to remain in it.
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What??? How on earth am I fighting desperately to stay in it?
You rather live inside the eu then return to your country to enjoy the benefits brexit will bring
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You are fukkin demented mate
I used to live very close to Stanley Road in woking, where Paul Weller lived.They've renamed the street from Stanley Road to Stanley Way
I wonder whom between us is making a fool of himself on this thread. Oh well
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And the shambles continues
Britain’s EU ambassador resigns weeks before Brexit talks
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/nati...r-resigns-weeks-before-brexit-talks/ar-BBxQzzn
Britain’s EU ambassador resigns weeks before Brexit talks
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/nati...r-resigns-weeks-before-brexit-talks/ar-BBxQzzn
The whole thing has been a fecking farce from start to finish.
Huge blow by the sounds of it. You want the people with connections and good network to be with you when negotiating the exit. What a joke this government and the current political class are.
Nah. If you look at this guy's resume, he's a Eurocrat to his fingertips. The British need someone who sees Brexit as an opportuntiy to be exploited, not a calamity to be managed. Having someone conducting OUT negotiations who really wants to stay IN is not a good idea.
Ugh, that kind of thinking is so wrong, I don't have the strength to argue. Also, I have taken to disregarding people who write with capitals because it screams extreme opinions which signifies lack of common sense.
Well, no one could accuse you of jumping to conclusions, could they?
(is it okay to use capitals at the beginning of a sentence?)
He was compromised by his Europhile views given the Brexit vote he should have gone immediately after the vote like Cameron.
taketh 'im to the tower and off with his head!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38494939
Pound dropping helping manufacturing in contradiction to remoaner catastrophe predictions.
Support for leave holding or strengthening according the expert on Newsnight and we know how much the remoaners love an expert.
Pound dropping helping manufacturing in contradiction to remoaner catastrophe predictions.
Support for leave holding or strengthening according the expert on Newsnight and we know how much the remoaners love an expert.
Anyone who uses terms like remoaner is seriously nowhere above 5-year-olds in terms of brain activity. Those that use the term and proclaim to support democracy are hypocrites on top of everything else.
If you give it out you really shouldn't be complaining about receiving it, it seems so weak and hypocritical.
Remoaners is a term of endearment compared the shite remainers called everyone who voted leave or even contemplated doing so. I voted remain but I like to be consistent in terminology. If you are a remoaner you reaped what you now sow even if you just can't take it.
We held a referendum to decide whether the UK stayed in the EU or left the EU. The UK voted to leave. I think that people like me are the mainstay of democracy because even though I got out voted I row in behind the decision wish it all the best.
It might be wrong, it might be right but remoaners are going to remoan or perhaps it is more like The Ramones.
I read a bit of your post but I don't think reading the whole thing would make it less of a nonsense comment.
I know six lines,it is a vast impenetrable wall of text and a music youtube video, five year olds and all that eh Wrongnr.
You do realise that we still haven't left? That this is just a small bubble on current stock that is more attractive to overseas buyers because of the currency devaluation? That when the currency devalues we get less for our money on imports? Which leads to cost-push inflation? Which leads to prices rises? Which is bad for ivestment? Which is bad for savings? It could also lead to hyperinflation? Or even stagflation?
I doubt you know any of this otherwise you wouldn't have come here on your high horse telling us how rosy things are.
Every silver lining has a cloud
I don't want to shock your view of the world but have you ever thought about that the UK, as most countries, do need to import lots of goods first in order to manufacture something that can be exported? And that those goods that need to be exported are more expensive as the pound drops?
It's baffling how in 2017 some people still believe this one-sided BS that Brexiters spread.
Sure we need to import but the fact is not every nation is pro EU and it stands to reason that would help us because they want the same thing. There is ALWAYS a counter argument equally as strong. Any country that is against the EU and it's dictatorship (What difference is a single person dictator and this EU? That can dictate to nations? It's a form of...dictatorship)...But ultimately the Uk will have allies. This monopoly will be broken and for the betterment of every nation. So that every nation can stand up for itself. Nations are being destroyed because you cannot see the bigger picture. Think bigger....Why are nations being flooded by immigration? Why are we seemingly always at war when most people don't want war? Think bigger...Sometimes you have to go backwards, because sometimes you have to know when you are being fecked and only an idiot would keep walking into it. There are bigger issues here and people in 2017 should learn some home truths. For example - why should there be debt on our money? Who makes our money? You control money, you control nations....Who do you think is in charge? The people are meant to be and we're not and neither are the governments. If they were, they wouldn't be in fecking debt would they. You only get into debt if you are government if you are stupid or controlled. As tempting as the former is, that's not the answer.
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Not only that, he claims to have voted Remain himself and is apparently willing to accept without complaint of all the shite that's going to come the Uk's way and complain about other remainers moaning because they realise what's going to happen .
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To be fair, a lot of people who voted Leave were just agreeing with Michael Gove. They're sick and tired of exports.
Nurse! We need to up the meds here. Let's go with twice daily.
That's the problem though, we're reaping what others sowed and we're still of the opinion that the simpletons that voted out were planting the three magic beans they traded for our cow, why should we take it, why should we not call out the lies and idiocy that put us in this mess whilst it's still democratically possible to prevent Article 50 being triggered, the referendum was a non binding advisory to government after all.
I'd say the most important differences between a dictator and the EU are the need for consensus and the right to veto.
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Open your eyes sheeple. It's not the EU that is controlling the government, it's the lizard people.
Worth a watch
And the sky could fall on our heads. What's to be expected is a small (2% to 3%), one-off rise in UK prices as higher import costs kick in. Stagflation or hyperinflation are not so easily triggered, and certainly not in the present deflationary economic conditions.
We're already seeing a rise in British exports in the wake of the pounds fall. This should provide a boost to economic growth and lower unemployment. The immediate impact should be higher growth, lower unemployment and a drop in the standard of living of those already in employment who don't negotiate wage increases to compensate for the increased cost of living.
Pre-referendum, most economists believed the pound was greatly overvalued, and a decade long current account deficit provides definitive support for that view. Most experts, not rabidly anti-Brexit, agree that the pound's fall was in itself a long overdue and natural adjustment.
Remember that some of the world's most prosperous countries made a living keeping their currencies artificially low. During their periods of greatest post-war growth, Germany and Japan were notorious for holding down the values of the mark and the yen. Devaluation is not a national disaster; as Ireland showed in the late 1980s, the competitive edge of a low currency can be worth its weight in gold.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...gn-office-despiar-civil-servant-a7509181.html
He wrote: “The Foreign Office is reported to be in despair over Boris Johnson: he is, apparently, not reading his briefs, not providing clear guidance for his officials, alienating other EU foreign ministers whose goodwill we will need to a successful negotiated exit, and failing to hammer out any framework for Britain’s future foreign policy towards Europe.”
Lord Wallace went on to say that while David Davis has “a better reputation” he had also been told that visitors seeing the minister were warned to only say positive things about Brexit.
He wrote: “The Foreign Office is reported to be in despair over Boris Johnson: he is, apparently, not reading his briefs, not providing clear guidance for his officials, alienating other EU foreign ministers whose goodwill we will need to a successful negotiated exit, and failing to hammer out any framework for Britain’s future foreign policy towards Europe.”
Lord Wallace went on to say that while David Davis has “a better reputation” he had also been told that visitors seeing the minister were warned to only say positive things about Brexit.
Whats baffling is this,
The drop in the economic indicator I am quoting from the BBC site post the Brexit vote had all kinds of negative implications when it suited the remoaners to do their doom and gloom remoaning on this very thread, if memory serves.
Then the uptick in the very same economic indicator doesn't mean anything and shouldn't be mentioned at all. One sided BS indeed.
There is no lack of doom mongers on this thread, so I will continue to address the one sided nature of this discussion when I see positive indicators especially when we still don't know which way this is going to go.
Construction closes the year out expanding at the fastest rate for 9 months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38505221
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38505221
Well you're wrong in the first instance because Tesco and Sainsburys have already announced 5-10% price increases to be expected which is way more than the 2-3% you claim.
Exports have gone up in the short term because its cheaper to buy them from abroad after the devaluation but they will go down again because it will cost more to import the materials required for manufacturing so the price of goods will rise which will mean domestic buying power will fall.
We didn't see wage increases during stable and prosperous economic years so doubt there will be any during periods of uncertainty. And as for unemployment well it only takes one big business to take their operations abroad and leave thousands unemployed which will most definitely happen if we don't stay in the single market. Getting favourable deals is out of question because negotiations cannot be concluded within the two years that Article 50 allows so single market will be key for a lot of corporations.
Gradual devaluation is not that bad although I personally prefer to have more buying power for my pounds but when you get instant drops of 20% like when the Brexit vote happened that sends shockwaves through the economy wiping trillions of British companies. It also plunges us in a period of uncertainty which can lead to flash crashes like the one in October where the pound fell to its lowest point since 1985. The trigger for that flash crash were indications that Britian was heading for a hard Brexit. Then pound rallied again when Brexit minister hinted that we could stay in tye single market. Uncertainty is never good in economy as it drains investment.
I do agree with you that hyperinflation and stagflation are not triggered easily. It would take a catastrophic downturn of events for the economy to take a big enough hit to possibly trigger them. Something like a hard Brexit.