Regulus Arcturus Black
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Not really.
Yes really, probably the worst attempt at an analogy I've ever read.
Not really.
Is that your life motto or something? Seems to be your standard response.
Someone says something = Doesn't mean anything
Someone signs contract = Doesn't mean anything
Someone does something = Doesn't actually mean he meant to do that!?
It's a very convenient way to go about life, if you're self-sufficient and completely oblivious to the existence of other humans.
Let's hope you don't post any eh.Yes really, probably the worst attempt at an analogy I've ever read.
There are two sides to the freedom of movement in Europe and only one side is ever discussed on this forum.
Lithuania are struggling now because of emigration, a factor that was probably never considered by the EU and is dismissed out of hand here. (I've brought this up before).
There is now an anti-emigration party in power in Lithuania.
This is where the EU failed (yet again) to anticipate repercussions of their policies (or lack of) and take action to pre-empt such problems throughout Europe. I suspect more countries will start struggling with this issue soon. Freedom of movement only really works when the economies of participating countries are similar. If they aren't similar then you end up depleting the poorer countries of essential knowledge and skills they need to build up their economy.
Contracts are worthless if the humans who sign them are so themselves. Other than that contracts are still the best way to formulate an agreement, and to hold the other side to that agreement.Oh go away
I'm 50 years old and this particular topic has been discussed for years at loads of summits so yeah, i believe when i see.
And yes, contracts are worthless so if you want to pigeon hole me go for it
There are two sides to the freedom of movement in Europe and only one side is ever discussed on this forum.
Lithuania are struggling now because of emigration, a factor that was probably never considered by the EU and is dismissed out of hand here. (I've brought this up before).
There is now an anti-emigration party in power in Lithuania.
This is where the EU failed (yet again) to anticipate repercussions of their policies (or lack of) and take action to pre-empt such problems throughout Europe. I suspect more countries will start struggling with this issue soon. Freedom of movement only really works when the economies of participating countries are similar. If they aren't similar then you end up depleting the poorer countries of essential knowledge and skills they need to build up their economy.
Quite a few on that side went with that line (though not when talking to people generally worried about immigration, of course). They rarely acknowledged that non-EU migration has long been higher than EU migration.Well someone (I think it was Nick but I can't be sure), already pulled the 'making immigration fairer to non-EU citizens' card..
First sentence spot-onContracts are worthless if the humans who sign them are so themselves. Other than that contracts are still the best way to formulate an agreement, and to hold the other side to that agreement.
Misleading? How about straight up lies?
More would be good but you could start with better. The first link is the head of the IMF paraphrasing a report from the head of the BoE. This report seems to be very much about the overall impact of Brexit, rather than this specific period. Ditto the stuff that Corbyn is talking about in the Independent piece.
Anyway, you're being remarkably intellectually dishonest to try and infer that predictions made by financial analysts about what might happen in the future are in any way comparable to the promises made by the Leave campaign (i.e. NHS funding stuff on the side of a bus). Predictions about the future will never be 100% accurate but, despite this, a lot of what they did predict has already come to pass. The enormous devaluation of sterling being the most obvious one.
Can I confirm that this is the same poster who, despite being shown repeated examples to the contrary, insisted that Leave never said £350m would go to the NHS?
What's funny is Nick will say 'it wasn't about reducing immigration it was about control' and then in the next sentence talk about how remainers don't respect the electorate.
An Anti-emigration party - I think we call that communism right?
You know what Lithuania could do to help their own problems whilst also helping the rest of World don't you? instead of anti-emigration they should be looking at pro-immigration from outside the EU... so simple it's mind boggling that so many these days are looking inwards rather than outwards. I'm starting to believe that ISIS have won already.
And to be fair to the EU, lots of Lithuanians will be sending money home, and in the main, the EU is an attempt to balance out the economies of the member states, that's where that £350 million "NHS money" is going.
Funny, the government have yet to give public any insight in to their plans for a U.K. post Brexit, yet @Nick 0208 Ldn seems already know how things are going to work out for the U.K. post Brexit. Amazing!
Funny, the government have yet to give public any insight in to their plans for a U.K. post Brexit, yet @Nick 0208 Ldn seems already know how things are going to work out for the U.K. post Brexit. Amazing!
Are you referring to my remarks on immigration policy? They are my beliefs on the matter, and what i see as realistic in a strong/hard Brexit. Such considerations will be part of my voting choices in the years ahead.
Still waiting for the eu refom plans
"We need to start listening to the people"
OK when?
I know you don't seem to care much for foreigners just like too many people who voted for Brexit. And, yes, I think you're xenophobic and intolerant. I think there is a far too large part of British, Dutch and US society who are xenophobic and intolerant from all sides and religions.
I'm very concerned at what the future holds. It wasn't so long ago when the World suffered the consequences of what happens when xenophobia, intolerance and nationalism are allowed to rear their ugly heads. God help our children.
Baseless and prejudice driven slurs, tsk tsk. And you're a Remainer too.
Unless there is no intention to restore presently paid monies to the Treasury (which, the principle at hand is still valid at heart.
When a leading Remain campaigner tells voters on national television that Brexit will leave them with no workers' rights and no parental leave, i consider it to be a more disgraceful deceit of the electorate. Presumably you were on board with such messaging?
You mean like rutte telling people to fukk off back to their own country? SnazyThe EU reform plans are a joke. It's about time that the EU, and society in general, remember why the EU was started in the first place. The EU should do more to combat xenophobia and intolerance!
on current voting patterns you can add Poland and Austria to that list. Also in France and even Germany anti immigration parties gaining a lot of support....I know you don't seem to care much for foreigners just like too many people who voted for Brexit. And, yes, I think you're xenophobic and intolerant. I think there is a far too large part of British, Dutch and US society who are xenophobic and intolerant from all sides and religions.
I'm very concerned at what the future holds. It wasn't so long ago when the World suffered the consequences of what happens when xenophobia, intolerance and nationalism are allowed to rear their ugly heads. God help our children.
The EU reform plans are a joke. It's about time that the EU, and society in general, remember why the EU was started in the first place. The EU should do more to combat xenophobia and intolerance!
Nobody's perfect, everybody is prejudiced for time to time. It is human nature to be frightened and/or wary of people who are different because of their culture, religion, skin color, etc. We are social animals and we all feel the need to belong.
This does not make predjudism right however. It is important to remember that predjudism is a dangerous irrational emotion and what the dangers are if we let ourselves lead by such emotions. That's why I think people voted for Brexit for all the wrong reasons.
Again I emphasize the dangers when xenophobia and intolerance become acceptable in society.
You mean like rutte telling people to fukk off back to their own country? Snazy
Nobody's perfect, everybody is prejudiced for time to time. It is human nature to be frightened and/or wary of people who are different because of their culture, religion, skin color, etc. We are social animals and we all feel the need to belong.
This does not make predjudism right however. It is important to remember that predjudism is a dangerous irrational emotion and what the dangers are if we let ourselves lead by such emotions. That's why I think people voted for Brexit for all the wrong reasons.
Again I emphasize the dangers when xenophobia and intolerance become acceptable in society.
Yes but he's an influential eu pm that was against junk being appointed until a visit to merkel made him see the lightI think Rutte is an absolute tw@t! The only ones I think are half decent at the moment are the leaders of the D66 and the SP.
That was you by the way, the one making the judgements motivated by prejudice (of a political group in this instance).
I've read plenty of your posts over the summer and based on what you've written I can only conclude that I think you're a chauvinist and that you don't like foreigners. Sorry, but that's what I think based upon the many posts I've read off you. I understand why you and many millions more in the U.K. might feel that way. But, I don't think it's right. It's sad that so many people feel this way.
Yes but he's an influential eu pm that was against junk being appointed until a visit to merkel made him see the light
That's how politics work. Now Rutte and the VVD will once again trying to win back Wilder's voters in the lead up to the election. They're like cameleons these politicians.
I think Rutte is an absolute tw@t! The only ones I think are half decent at the moment are the leaders of the D66 and the SP.
Did the Italian economy minister really just say that he felt insulted by the low intellectual level of the talks with Boris Johnson? Oh my
Seriously, he should just resign. Bad start, clearly out of his depth.
Did the Italian economy minister really just say that he felt insulted by the low intellectual level of the talks with Boris Johnson? Oh my
Seriously, he should just resign. Bad start, clearly out of his depth.
I've read plenty of your posts over the summer and based on what you've written I can only conclude that I think you're a chauvinist and that you don't like foreigners. Sorry, but that's what I think based upon the many posts I've read off you. I understand why you and many millions more in the U.K. might feel that way. But, I don't think it's right. It's sad that so many people feel this way.
“For the purposes of this question, I am not worried about transitional arrangements, I am prepared to take the economic hit or to secure the economic benefits of not being inside the single market and being outside the customs union. I simply want the divorce on the quickest possible terms. What do I need in that quickie divorce?”