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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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And suddenly the hippie Santa is back in consideration for my vote.
 
May cannot guarantee anything, let alone access to the single market. If Corbyn goes through with that and together with the SNP plus some Tory remainers, who has the majority.
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!
 
The real Thatcher PM from 1979 till 1990
Fake Thatcher from July till March?
 
If the "brexit underclass" are more interested in being able to buy a home and a decent paying job, why vote for something that will bring them economic hardship. Presume these are the Tory brexit underclass.

It made no difference which way they voted so they stopped voting, then three decades later someone said vote in this referendum and remember it will harm the city of London if you vote Brexit. So guess which way they voted?
 
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!

Yes that's the way UK politics is going, that's why all the alarm bells are ringing
 
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!

Will the Tories join UKIP in coalition though? Would they want that stain on their party's history?
 
It made no difference which way they voted so they stopped voting, then three decades later someone said vote in this referendum and remember it will harm the city of London if you vote Brexit. So guess which way they voted?

So they basically hit the hand that fed them? That's smart

Maybe the city of London should consider independence alongside Scotland and Northern Ireland. Let see how the wealthy Midlands and North survive without the city of London's dosh
 
It made no difference which way they voted so they stopped voting, then three decades later someone said vote in this referendum and remember it will harm the city of London if you vote Brexit. So guess which way they voted?

Yes because they have been fed misinformation, they had no idea what they were voting for, as I said a long time ago, this shouldn't have gone to a referendum, how can someone with so little knowledge vote for a history changing event like this - absolutely ridiculous
 
I know exactly how people live, we live in the most economically-deprived part of our town in a small terraced house between two commercial premises, plus I've lived and worked in similar areas in Liverpool and Bradford.

Apart from that, what you're saying is the crux of my post above. They won't get a better chance of a job or a home with Brexit. Absolutely no chance whatsoever. And it would have been good if they'd been presented with a little more information before they made their choice in the referendum. Some of my neighbours voted "leave" and their reasons included "to stop Turkey becoming European" (more than one person said this, they'd read it on FaceBook or something and voted accordingly). Why did they think that would make their lives better, give them a better job or their own home?

Have you watched the BBC program no place to call home?
 
Penna's post led me to this video:


In that video that woman pretend that the UK can't prevent Turkey from joining the EU, she talks about the EU as if the UK weren't member of it and as if they didn't had a vote at the EU council.
She also forgot to mention that to start the negotiation the EU council need to vote and agree at the unanimity and we already know that Cyprus aren't going to agree.
 
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!

Indeed. If Brexit somehow didn't happen (which I doubt), the UK's problems would only just be beginning. The leavers would (with some justification) be even more angry and disillusioned than they were before, with the media no doubt egging them on. They wouldn't go away, even if Brexit magically did. What happens then?
 
Indeed. If Brexit somehow didn't happen (which I doubt), the UK's problems would only just be beginning. The leavers would (with some justification) be even more angry and disillusioned than they were before, with the media no doubt egging them on. They wouldn't go away, even if Brexit magically did. What happens then?

On the other hand the slightly fewer people who are against Brexit are expected to sit back and watch their economy disintegrate and heavens knows what other consequences.
All this has done is divide the country. Some sovereign United Kingdom this will be.
 
On the other hand the slightly fewer people who are against Brexit are expected to sit back and watch their economy disintegrate and heavens knows what other consequences.
All this has done is divide the country. Some sovereign United Kingdom this will be.
Problem is, you're speculating on what could happen. Wasn't the economy supposed to crumble and fall when the vote was revealed on 24th June? Wasn't recession and misery forecast? Didn't happen did it? Problem is, no one knows whats going to happen, not you, not me, no one.
 
Hard to know whether you could ever really understand that the brexit underclass are more interested in getting a home to live in in the UK and a chance of a decent paying job than whether they can afford a fortnight in Tuscany but please carry on with the nature of your terrible woes post brexit.

This is the exact issue in the UK which caused brexit the disconnect between their reality and yours and people like you who with the best of will have absolutely no idea about how they live.

Even the underclass would spend a week in Spain. Every problem they have is mostly caused by UK government, not the EU
 
Indeed. If Brexit somehow didn't happen (which I doubt), the UK's problems would only just be beginning. The leavers would (with some justification) be even more angry and disillusioned than they were before, with the media no doubt egging them on. They wouldn't go away, even if Brexit magically did. What happens then?

I think you should be more worried about what happens after Brexit and the lives of the leavers is still shit. Those who have whipped them into a frenzy won't turn around and say we were wrong, they can only direct that hate to others, lest it turns on them.
 
I know exactly how people live, we live in the most economically-deprived part of our town in a small terraced house between two commercial premises, plus I've lived and worked in similar areas in Liverpool and Bradford.

Apart from that, what you're saying is the crux of my post above. They won't get a better chance of a job or a home with Brexit. Absolutely no chance whatsoever. And it would have been good if they'd been presented with a little more information before they made their choice in the referendum. Some of my neighbours voted "leave" and their reasons included "to stop Turkey becoming European" (more than one person said this, they'd read it on FaceBook or something and voted accordingly). Why did they think that would make their lives better, give them a better job or their own home?

Really you think you do with houses in two countries while they can't afford one in the country they were born in?
 
[QUOTE="Paul the Wolf, post: 20022642, member: 87651"]If the "brexit underclass" are more interested in being able to buy a home and a decent paying job, why vote for something that will bring them economic hardship. Presume these are the Tory brexit underclass.[/QUOTE]

No they want to be able to live in one and can't get one, the dream of being able to buy one is long gone for them but you live France and know feck all about it.
 
that somehow all the people from Europe who carry out important and/or essential work here would disappear overnight and be immediately replaced by all those highly-qualified and desperate-to-work British people whom they'd kept out of a job and that we could keep all our little British quirks and foibles intact. Now it appears that it's none of the above, except the quirks and foibles.

I'm sorry, but that is baseless nonsense. There was no prevailing sentiment of all essential European workers disappearing. Brexit does however carry the potential for a global immigration policy, and one which can respond flexibly to the challenges of the 21st Century. Considering its size, the beneficial terms afforded to EU migrants are rather out of proportion.


They won't get a better chance of a job or a home with Brexit. Absolutely no chance whatsoever.

Even if this wasn't a vote for the next 30-40 years, i think that is quite a statement to make. And given their present circumstances, what would blind faith in the EU have offered them?
 
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Problem is, you're speculating on what could happen. Wasn't the economy supposed to crumble and fall when the vote was revealed on 24th June? Wasn't recession and misery forecast? Didn't happen did it? Problem is, no one knows whats going to happen, not you, not me, no one.

I wrote a post a day or two back, the first stage was the first devaluation of the pound, the second stage would be when Article 50 would be triggered, which a lot of people thought would have already been done by now, but now earliest will be sometime next year. The third stage when the UK leaves the EU. It's only just over 4 months since the vote.

A recession is when two consecutive quarters have negative growth - we're not there yet. A hard brexit will result in a major economic downturn but nobody yet knows what type of Brexit will happen, not even the government if there is one at all
 
[QUOTE="Paul the Wolf, post: 20022642, member: 87651"]If the "brexit underclass" are more interested in being able to buy a home and a decent paying job, why vote for something that will bring them economic hardship. Presume these are the Tory brexit underclass.

No they want to be able to live in one and can't get one, the dream of being able to buy one is long gone for them but you live France and know feck all about it.[/QUOTE]

What are you on, how do I not know about the UK, I only lived 51 years of my life there and worked for a British company up till last July.
Because I live in France I live in a bubble, it's amazing I can connect to Redcafe.

What drivel. Sure you're not Farage in disguise
 
Indeed. If Brexit somehow didn't happen (which I doubt), the UK's problems would only just be beginning. The leavers would (with some justification) be even more angry and disillusioned than they were before, with the media no doubt egging them on. They wouldn't go away, even if Brexit magically did. What happens then?
What are they gonna do, throw their walking stick at bearded hipsters?
 
No they want to be able to live in one and can't get one, the dream of being able to buy one is long gone for them but you live France and know feck all about it.

"What are you on, how do I not know about the UK, I only lived 51 years of my life there and worked for a British company up till last July.
Because I live in France I live in a bubble, it's amazing I can connect to Redcafe.

What drivel. Sure you're not Farage in disguise[/QUOTE]"

Good grief you are so out of touch you don't even know you are out of touch. I begin to understand your views now.
 
@Don't Kill Bill

I'm so out of touch with what, you're too transparent old chap


You think people say that in the UK now?

You have been away a very long time and you are French now. You can't come back, things have changed and so have you. All the things you think you know about the UK are wrong outdated and misinformed.

Good luck being French I hope it works out for you but stop pretending you know jack shit about living in the UK now because you lived here once a long, long time ago.
 
Are you on a wind up Don't Kill Bill?

If not, who made you the spokesman for the 'Brexit underclass' (what a fecking horrible term btw for whoever coined that).

You are being a complete ass for no real reason to multiple posters.
 
You think people say that in the UK now?

You have been away a very long time and you are French now. You can't come back, things have changed and so have you. All the things you think you know about the UK are wrong outdated and misinformed.

Good luck being French I hope it works out for you but stop pretending you know jack shit about living in the UK now because you lived here once a long, long time ago.
He can come back, whenever he wants. Unless, of course you and the underclass you appear to understand and represent decided through democratic vote that crossing the channel alters your citizenship.

Oh, and I grew up in a council estate in Glasgow and have been known to say "Old Chap", old chap.
 
You think people say that in the UK now?

You have been away a very long time and you are French now. You can't come back, things have changed and so have you. All the things you think you know about the UK are wrong outdated and misinformed.

Good luck being French I hope it works out for you but stop pretending you know jack shit about living in the UK now because you lived here once a long, long time ago.
Wow, you're understandably the exact reason why he doesn't want to come back.
 
Problem is, you're speculating on what could happen. Wasn't the economy supposed to crumble and fall when the vote was revealed on 24th June? Wasn't recession and misery forecast? Didn't happen did it? Problem is, no one knows whats going to happen, not you, not me, no one.

The main econonic damage preducted is as a result of leaving. You haven't left yet, or even triggered article 50.
 
You think people say that in the UK now?

You have been away a very long time and you are French now. You can't come back, things have changed and so have you. All the things you think you know about the UK are wrong outdated and misinformed.

Good luck being French I hope it works out for you but stop pretending you know jack shit about living in the UK now because you lived here once a long, long time ago.

There are small short lived marsupial mice who have never seen anywhere apart from the Simpson Desert who know Brexit is a silly idea.