devilish
Juventus fan who used to support United
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And suddenly the hippie Santa is back in consideration for my vote.
Nah, thats not going to happen. Brexit will happen whether any of us want it or not
Well doing his knees in wasn't really a viable option, was it?Jesus
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!May cannot guarantee anything, let alone access to the single market. If Corbyn goes through with that and together with the SNP plus some Tory remainers, who has the majority.
If the "brexit underclass" are more interested in being able to buy a home and a decent paying job, why vote for something that will bring them economic hardship. Presume these are the Tory brexit underclass.
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!
It made no difference which way they voted so they stopped voting, then three decades later someone said vote in this referendum and remember it will harm the city of London if you vote Brexit. So guess which way they voted?
It made no difference which way they voted so they stopped voting, then three decades later someone said vote in this referendum and remember it will harm the city of London if you vote Brexit. So guess which way they voted?
I know exactly how people live, we live in the most economically-deprived part of our town in a small terraced house between two commercial premises, plus I've lived and worked in similar areas in Liverpool and Bradford.
Apart from that, what you're saying is the crux of my post above. They won't get a better chance of a job or a home with Brexit. Absolutely no chance whatsoever. And it would have been good if they'd been presented with a little more information before they made their choice in the referendum. Some of my neighbours voted "leave" and their reasons included "to stop Turkey becoming European" (more than one person said this, they'd read it on FaceBook or something and voted accordingly). Why did they think that would make their lives better, give them a better job or their own home?
Yeah, but all May has to do is call a GE and then Labour is decimated. If they refuse to honour the electorate and the result of the referendum, then they can kiss their seats goodbye. It's stuff like this that drives people into the open arms of UKIP, and god knows what would happen if them nutters had power!
Indeed. If Brexit somehow didn't happen (which I doubt), the UK's problems would only just be beginning. The leavers would (with some justification) be even more angry and disillusioned than they were before, with the media no doubt egging them on. They wouldn't go away, even if Brexit magically did. What happens then?
Problem is, you're speculating on what could happen. Wasn't the economy supposed to crumble and fall when the vote was revealed on 24th June? Wasn't recession and misery forecast? Didn't happen did it? Problem is, no one knows whats going to happen, not you, not me, no one.On the other hand the slightly fewer people who are against Brexit are expected to sit back and watch their economy disintegrate and heavens knows what other consequences.
All this has done is divide the country. Some sovereign United Kingdom this will be.
Hard to know whether you could ever really understand that the brexit underclass are more interested in getting a home to live in in the UK and a chance of a decent paying job than whether they can afford a fortnight in Tuscany but please carry on with the nature of your terrible woes post brexit.
This is the exact issue in the UK which caused brexit the disconnect between their reality and yours and people like you who with the best of will have absolutely no idea about how they live.
Indeed. If Brexit somehow didn't happen (which I doubt), the UK's problems would only just be beginning. The leavers would (with some justification) be even more angry and disillusioned than they were before, with the media no doubt egging them on. They wouldn't go away, even if Brexit magically did. What happens then?
I know exactly how people live, we live in the most economically-deprived part of our town in a small terraced house between two commercial premises, plus I've lived and worked in similar areas in Liverpool and Bradford.
Apart from that, what you're saying is the crux of my post above. They won't get a better chance of a job or a home with Brexit. Absolutely no chance whatsoever. And it would have been good if they'd been presented with a little more information before they made their choice in the referendum. Some of my neighbours voted "leave" and their reasons included "to stop Turkey becoming European" (more than one person said this, they'd read it on FaceBook or something and voted accordingly). Why did they think that would make their lives better, give them a better job or their own home?
that somehow all the people from Europe who carry out important and/or essential work here would disappear overnight and be immediately replaced by all those highly-qualified and desperate-to-work British people whom they'd kept out of a job and that we could keep all our little British quirks and foibles intact. Now it appears that it's none of the above, except the quirks and foibles.
They won't get a better chance of a job or a home with Brexit. Absolutely no chance whatsoever.
Problem is, you're speculating on what could happen. Wasn't the economy supposed to crumble and fall when the vote was revealed on 24th June? Wasn't recession and misery forecast? Didn't happen did it? Problem is, no one knows whats going to happen, not you, not me, no one.
[QUOTE="Paul the Wolf, post: 20022642, member: 87651"]If the "brexit underclass" are more interested in being able to buy a home and a decent paying job, why vote for something that will bring them economic hardship. Presume these are the Tory brexit underclass.
What are they gonna do, throw their walking stick at bearded hipsters?Indeed. If Brexit somehow didn't happen (which I doubt), the UK's problems would only just be beginning. The leavers would (with some justification) be even more angry and disillusioned than they were before, with the media no doubt egging them on. They wouldn't go away, even if Brexit magically did. What happens then?
No they want to be able to live in one and can't get one, the dream of being able to buy one is long gone for them but you live France and know feck all about it.
What are they gonna do, throw their walking stick at bearded hipsters?
Ah, the ageism argument is back in town.
If the average brexiteer tried to go on a riot half the NHS budget would have to be spent on hip replacements.
But only young people can decide what's hip even with their under developed young male brains.
Whatever young people decide, it won't be "hip" grandad.
You can't come back, things have changed and so have you.
He can come back, whenever he wants. Unless, of course you and the underclass you appear to understand and represent decided through democratic vote that crossing the channel alters your citizenship.You think people say that in the UK now?
You have been away a very long time and you are French now. You can't come back, things have changed and so have you. All the things you think you know about the UK are wrong outdated and misinformed.
Good luck being French I hope it works out for you but stop pretending you know jack shit about living in the UK now because you lived here once a long, long time ago.
Wow, you're understandably the exact reason why he doesn't want to come back.You think people say that in the UK now?
You have been away a very long time and you are French now. You can't come back, things have changed and so have you. All the things you think you know about the UK are wrong outdated and misinformed.
Good luck being French I hope it works out for you but stop pretending you know jack shit about living in the UK now because you lived here once a long, long time ago.
Problem is, you're speculating on what could happen. Wasn't the economy supposed to crumble and fall when the vote was revealed on 24th June? Wasn't recession and misery forecast? Didn't happen did it? Problem is, no one knows whats going to happen, not you, not me, no one.
You think people say that in the UK now?
You have been away a very long time and you are French now. You can't come back, things have changed and so have you. All the things you think you know about the UK are wrong outdated and misinformed.
Good luck being French I hope it works out for you but stop pretending you know jack shit about living in the UK now because you lived here once a long, long time ago.