Well to be fair he kinda spoiled my plans for the next weekend even though i´m not swedish but close enough!
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Well to be fair he kinda spoiled my plans for the next weekend even though i´m not swedish but close enough!
We're getting out of a failed relationship. We will have the UK door keys, thanks very much. Don't be a stranger though EU, OK?
The Germans are set to be affected badly by Brexit
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-pound-black-hole-in-estate-finances-after-b/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-pound-black-hole-in-estate-finances-after-b/
Now that's somewhat surprising.
Read the Lisbon treaty. It's much more. Consider the time and status of i.e. Eastern European countries when they decided to join and how long it has taken them to enter.
Comedy gold. Schulz is not Germany, and you seem to know next to nothing about him. Throughout his whole EU life which is very long, he has permanently held views and acted against "German" interests.UK have had a massive influence and I'm personally very happy to see that coming to an end in 2.5 years time.
@Crossie
I know the EU is more than a free trade area, what I'm saying is that it's value to most people is an economic one not a broader ideological one.
I know the EU is more than a free trade area, what I'm saying is that it's value to most people is an economic one not a broader ideological one.
Ah, I see I misinterpreted your sentence above. Whether or not 'most' is accurate depends on the country, demographics and some other factors, I think.
Anthony Browne: Brexit politicians are putting us on a fast track to financial jeopardy
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/22/brexit-threat-to-british-banks
Why don't they wait with a decision until it becomes clearer what kind of access they'd get?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/22/brexit-threat-to-british-banks
Why don't they wait with a decision until it becomes clearer what kind of access they'd get?
Because moving the hq of an organisation of that size is not a quick process
Also you have a legal responsibility to your shareholders to manage risks to protect their investments
Also a bit of campaigning, get banks access or else
And what about Gibraltar ?
I don't think a major corporation can wait 2-3 years for a major negotiations that can turn out to be costly for them.
That's what I'm trying to understand, how difficult it is, how much time it takes. Of course I do understand that banks (and other companies) don't wait until the last year of Brexit negotiations and are busy planning a move. But if I understand correctly, some firms start moving before article 50 is even triggered. I would have thought that they plan for different scenarios and decide a bit later in the process (in about 10-12 months or so) how to proceed.
These are probably warnings for the moment, meant for government and public ears. Like the firms talking about leaving Scotland before the Indy ref. It's a way of lobbying, I suppose.
This is kind of a wonderful opportunity for some other EU country to swoop in and benefit.
http://news.sky.com/story/top-banks-planning-to-move-abroad-over-brexit-fears-banking-boss-10629202
Which things did the EU sacrifice, that the UK would have liked? You can certainly name a few.
Chris Grayling on Marr still spouting the free market but no free movement bullshit.
A lot of this will be just rhetoric. The UK government didn’t just talk a lot about “hard-brexit”, but also took a public stance against serving special interest. Usually the government has an open ear for the industry and tries to portrait itself as partner. May/the torries made some very surprising and hostile remarks that must have spooked CEOs.
These kind of statements don’t unveil anything surprising, but they can get help to shape public opinion and might give the industry some leverage.
Scenario planning would have been done in depth as soon as a referendum was confirmed
They now have to implement their plans
Moving thousands of highly skilled people potentially (so gap analysis, recruitment services, regleratory approvals and negotiating relocation packages... it will take years (and as they only have 2 years they can't fanny around)
For a European bank it's probably fairly easy as their main ops won't be London so they can probably.
For a uk bank they need to decide if they remain hq in the UK and move some ops or literally up sticks and relocate for tax purposes etc (hsbc might finally make the hq in China?) I suspect uk banks with little European exposure won't move anything except the minimum of staff
For non UK or uk banks (yanks etc) then probably it will be a bloody nightmare as they will probably have to move pretty much the whole European hq.
The main problem is freedom of movement (capital as well as people)... if banks can't move capital freely then even a small tax soon mounts up given the funds that are regularly shifted about
Yeah they do but when they are protesting against an eu trade deal that might make them worse off, they should be listened to. After all this is kind of an eu related thread.
Well I pay a lot of interest to European politics, more so than uk politics. There are despicable characters in each and every country in the eu, do you think the uk has a monopoly on them?
Seriously? I didnt noticed. You keep repeating the same misconceptions about the eu that most people who who have no idea about the eu say
Don't let that stop you having an opinion though.
Scotland is 10% of the UK by population. The UK is around 10% of the EU, so you are wrong on that as well. If you count their votes as equal to your own then it is a stupid claim to say they are or were ignored. They were out voted on a national referendum for a nation they voted to stay in.
How many other regions in the EU get to vote on independence?
If you are saying that the eu need to get closer to people then i agree. I am all in favour with the eu engaging in debates at national level and countering lies of populist non educated people like Farage, Grillo and Salvini. Its time for eu beurocrats to leave their ivory castle and get their hands dirty
Rajoy will veto everything the uk wants from the eu until he gets it, that's how he is
Not really no. I didn't discuss how and why the UK entered the EEC. I only said that they shouldn't have been allowed a way in the first place
The UK has a history of causing divisions in Europe since Henry Tudor times. They created uncomfortable alliances, they financed rebellions and wars and they fuelled wars. Don't take me wrong, it was in their own interest to do so. While Europeans were busy killing one another, the UK was allowed to grow its empire unhindered. However it was stupid from the European part for allowing an enemy within, any influence inside a European group especially since, during that time, the UK was no powerhouse at all. Don't forget that during the 70s the UK was borrowing millions from the IMF. That mistake cost Europe alot throughout the years, with the UK proven to be a divisive power within the union ultimately pulling the plug from its membership when the EU is at its weakest. I hope the EU learns its lesson this time round and does not allow any backdoors open were the UK to have any form of influence inside Europe.
10% of 743.1m = 74m+. That more than France (66m), its slightly less then Germany (80m) or the combination of Hungary (9m), Ireland (4.6m), Austria (8m), Netherlands (16m), Bulgaria (7m), Sweden (9.8m), Denmark (5.6m), Finland (5.4), Lithuania (3m), Slovenia (2m), Estonia (1.3m), Cyprus (847k), Luxembourg (500k+) and Malta (400k). The EU would never ignore that huge amount of people and/or countries.
Considering how densely populated England is as opposed to the rest is ridiculous to use population as a way to decide things. In that case England will always win (53k) and the rest will just have to follow (Scotland has around 6m, Wales has around 3m and Northern Ireland has about 1m+)
And once again you're showing ignorance about how the EU works. The EU does not meddle how and if other countries have an 'independence' referendum. Actually they introduced article 50 for those who want to leave. You were free to conduct your Brexit referendum and others can do the same. Malta has an easier way of triggering a referendum the UK as it only need a petition of 10% of the population.
Which do you think he'll want more -co-sovereignty, concessions from the EU or a cake and eat it deal ?
I'd imagine he wants to make life for uk outside the eu as miserable as he can. then he will use the uk as an example to any of his subjects seeking independence. for me the best scenario is a 3rd election and him gone forever
Decent article from the BBA chief. He obviously has self-interest, but these really are anti-trade talks about putting barriers up rather than bringing them down.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/22/brexit-threat-to-british-banks
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/22/brexit-threat-to-british-banks
See discussion above and post #7847.
Ah yeah. Seriously though, why would the banks wait and risk getting caught short? Understandable they are planning for the worst. Way to feck up a flagship money-spinning industry.See discussion above and post #7847.
Negotiations going well with Scotland, Wales and NI I see.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...l-crisis-brexit-deal-institute-for-government
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...l-crisis-brexit-deal-institute-for-government
The UK are going to be very lucky to negotiate anything approaching free trade without free movement of labor which points to a very hard Brexit deal being the one that eventuates. Plus if the above article is right, and of course it might not be, then any outcome that results in an exit could be very harmful to the Union. Feck me the Tories made an arse of this one.
Microsoft raising prices for businesses between 13-22%..
UK wont get any access, Rajoy will see to that.
So what does Scotland want in regards to immigration? Do they want to have greater mobility and access to jobs in Europe? Otherwise a Scottish independence followed by Brexit would make it harder for them to work in England right?
Frankly, I don't understand that some journos and politicians appear to be surprised about the EU's stance to stick with the principle of free movement. It is entirely up to the UK what model they want to follow: EEC, Switzerland, CETA/TTIP-like trade deal, WTO. But to expect that the EU cater the UK with EU à la carte and allow cherry-picking is/was a bit naive.
They've been expecting the same ridiculous thing for over 30 years, why would they suddenly change now?
Fair point. I admit I overestimated that finally, a fair amount of sense for the real world would kick in.
They probably want a free trade deal with the UK which allows for free movement and also keep any money from the Barnet formula.
You know like the UK wants free access to the single market and also wants to pay less than their currently massively rebated premiums.
Pretty unrealistic isn't it
Reality starting to set in maybe?
Although the growith in number of people who think they'll be better off is worryingly inane.
Although the growith in number of people who think they'll be better off is worryingly inane.