The US has been doing this for decades and I've never spent 14 hours in a queue!
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But they haven't been trying to squeeze through a little gap at the foot of the white cliffs. The outrage at fingerprinting and photographing will be high class entertainment
Probably but shouldn't this be done in the EU, the UK isn't implementing the ESTA style visa is it?
I'm also guessing they're using computers with Window's 3.11
Probably but shouldn't this be done in the EU, the UK isn't implementing the ESTA style visa is it?
I'm also guessing they're using computers with Window's 3.11
No the UK had the brilliant idea of not accepting ID cards, which if you mention ID cards, you turn into a pillar of salt.
It's the volume of traffic that's going to be the problem. They can't enter the EU until their data is in the system. Every 3 years.
Why should they complain, it's what they wanted, control of borders and they knew it was coming.
Will only take a few minutes to do per person.
Coachload of drunken holidaymakers should be hilarious.
It's almost as if leaving was not a terribly good idea after all...
EU plan for medicine stockpile could worsen UK’s record shortages
Bloc plans to bulk-buy key drugs for all 27 countries, potentially leaving Britain ‘behind in the queue’
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/jan/25/eu-plan-medicine-stockpile-uk-record-shortages
EU plan for medicine stockpile could worsen UK’s record shortages
Bloc plans to bulk-buy key drugs for all 27 countries, potentially leaving Britain ‘behind in the queue’
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/jan/25/eu-plan-medicine-stockpile-uk-record-shortages
Isn't that what a passport is for?
Seems to me the issue is on the EU side not the UK side, the UK hasn't changed anything has it?
I've waited for over 6 hours at the Ambassador Bridge (Detroit-Windsor) multiple times. (Might not be as bad now, haven't been in a while, but it was bad in the naughties)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/26/eu-citizens-ulez-fines-data-breach-tfl
Don't come to an agreement regarding the exchange of data , use a backdoor, shake down unknowing motorists.
Europeans would be mad if they didn't know that starving Londoners really need the money.
Don't come to an agreement regarding the exchange of data , use a backdoor, shake down unknowing motorists.
Europeans would be mad if they didn't know that starving Londoners really need the money.
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The UK stopped accepting ID cards . Most EU citizens do not possess one because they don't need one unless they travel outside the EU/Schengen. They are generally free and have all your information on them including fingerprints etc rather than pay around €100 for each member of the family for a passport.
Anyway all that did was reduce tourism and deliveries to the UK but is not directly connected to the further delays at Dover after this system has been introduced.
So the EU have long set about setting up a system, which the UK were part of developping, which monitors all the details of the person entering the EU/Schengen, criminal records, how long their stay has been etc, where they are staying etc. Of course, before Brexit, UK citizens had freedom of movement in the EU which they voted against and instead voted for this.
So to get into the system they have put all their details online first to get the visa which costs €7 I believe and then be photographed and fingerprinted at the point of entry in the EU.
There are many illegal British immigrants in the EU, who on the whole have overstayed the 90 days/180 days , some by years.
In most places the system will be manageable , at airports etc, but at bottlenecks like Dover it will be difficult, to say the least. The queues will be on the UK side, not so on the EU side, and thus is a major problem for the UK - which they voted for. So many things the electorate voted for without realising it.
31st January sees inspection of goods coming from the EU which has already been delayed numerous times. More cost and paperwork for the UK.
2024 will see more things to come and will be the start of the turning point where they finally realise the huge mistake they made. So far it's been "Well the sky hasn't fallen in - yet"
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Perhaps the UK have realised that if they import food that does not comply with EU standards, the UK's deal with the EU, will be f***ed.
Alternatively they could break international law and have it f***ed that way.
No problem for this Tory government
95% of hospital pharmacists across Europe are experiencing medicine shortages
Stockpiling should be easy then
God knows where these headline writers make this shit up. EU can't stockpile what it doesn't have and we've had shortages for a few years.
I never knew they accepted them in the first place!
First time I ever went thru Dover was on the way to Rotterdam in '91, with my brand new 1 year passport, the only time I showed it to anyone was at the OT ticket office when buying the package - not once to anyone on the trip, I've done a few Dover-Calais trips since then and TBH I don't recall ever showing a passport then either!
The US is heading towards a potential domestic issue with ID cards, for flying most folks use their Driving License, but from next year they will need a "Real ID" as the current ones are not deemed secure, most folks don't have one and the date for this has been pushed back several times as it is!
When I lived in the UK I must have gone through Dover about 5 or more times a year, very rarely any delays, just waved through, there was no need.
All changed now and will get worse.
Now I have both French and British nationality I have a British passport which expires in 2 years (doubt I'll renew it) and a French ID card (no passport) and can travel, live and work anywhere in the EU .
I would to be on the safe side
I renewed my last one online from the US and the whole process was quick and easy, it took a grand total of 10 days or so which was well under the expected timeframe, that was in 2017 though so maigt be different now
We just got my son an Irish passport and ID card. What is the difference? ID card all you need within the EU and passport required for travel elsewhere?
We could have got him UK passport but the Irish one is so much more useful as it give access to the EU.
We could have got him UK passport but the Irish one is so much more useful as it give access to the EU.
As a rule of thumb passport for whenever he leaves the EU and ID card for within. I'm a dual citizen and never actually had a passport of my EU citizenship. Whenever I travel outside I travel with my other passport and inside with my ID card.
Thanks. Is the ID card enough to prove your right to work?
It was and he did feck all whilst in the job.
As far as I'm aware yes but I think it's probably best to get information on the specific country he's looking at.
Yes , if he has an ID card he is an EU national. Few people have passports.
Yep. He has both and it being an Eire passport he also has the right to work in the UK. Not that he is ever likely to want to.
If it’s what I’m thinking of then the ID card (passport card) is basically only useful for travelling to other EU countries, I think you can use it as a form of ID like a passport and driving license but you can’t get one without also having a full passport. You can also use it for travel to the Uk but I usually just bring my full passport cause sometimes at customs they have had no clue what it is and it confused them!
https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/passports/passport-card/
If he ever wants to work in Ireland then he will need to apply for a pps number as well
https://services.mywelfare.ie/en/topics/identity-services/personal-public-service-pps-number/
https://services.mywelfare.ie/en/topics/identity-services/personal-public-service-pps-number/
In theory yes in practice an employer will probably want to see the passport aswell. Not all ID cards are the same, some have restrictions on them.
Sure it was…in Tory Land.
My son was working in Greece. He needed some sort of pre-work visa to get in and then his club were going to then process the actual work visa. Once they heard he now had an Irish passport they stopped processing the work visa. No proof was requested. Then again he was never ever stopped at passport control in Greece? Going in or out, so probably not representative of the rest of the EU.
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The most absurd thing about it was, after not being able to find any opportunities himself, he asked the sun and express readers to provide their own examples. He got over 2000 replies apparently and published the best 9, and when you read them it's obvious why they couldn't print a tenth.
No word of a lie, the list was
1) Allowing fracking, which we already controlled.
2) Getting more powerful vacuum cleaners, because we all want to waste electricity.
3) Removing regulations on GM crops so we could get them in our diet before we know whether they're safe. Probably makes sense if you're willing to vote for Brexit.
4) Removing limits on HGV driving times, because there just aren't enough accidents caused by tired and overworked lorry drivers.
5) Allowing more powerful batteries on pedal bikes, when the UK actually had and have stricter regulations than the EU anyway.
6) Shorten training for medical professionals. Quite honest of them to recognise that Brexit fecked the NHS tbh, and when the ambulance you called takes 4 days to arrive you won't care that the paramedic isn't properly trained.
7) Make it easier to exploit agency workers. Probably needed when you've stopped the supply of labour from europe.
8) Simplify holiday pay by changing it from 12.07%. Again, probably needed when when people were stupid enough to feck themselves over by voting for Brexit.
9) Reduce requirements for businesses to conduct fire testing on electrical equipment, because not enough people die in fires.
There are no routine passport checks if you're travelling with the Schengen area and he won't need a visa to work if he has EU citizenship. Like I say though, in practice some places may still want to see a passport.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...DKAB6BAgNEAE&usg=AOvVaw0FxMlN2VVnVukgqkF2SDfu
The introduction of complex paperwork to certify all EU products of plant and animal origin entering the UK from January 31 risks fouling up the supply of a number of products, including pork and sugared liquid eggs used in cake and sauces.
Brexit means higher prices. Oh wait. They did not tell us about that...
The introduction of complex paperwork to certify all EU products of plant and animal origin entering the UK from January 31 risks fouling up the supply of a number of products, including pork and sugared liquid eggs used in cake and sauces.
Brexit means higher prices. Oh wait. They did not tell us about that...
So, a bacon & gammon shortage on its way. Luckily we've got more than enough of the latter already.
All these things were known before the referendum but Brexiters ignored them or didn't understand and/or lied about them. It's clear even the reporters don't fully understand the full extent of this and other problems to come.
All you hear now from Brexiters is "it's the wrong type of Brexit" or "there should have been a better deal" or "it's not implemented properly" or "we need to renegotiate it".
No, this is what you voted for and there's much more to come.
Interesting that there are a shortage of vets to do the farmyard checks. In NL there is also a shortage of domestic vets but thats ok, UK vets have stepped in to eliviate the problem
10) The future season 5 of Blackadder that will eventually portrait all of this is going to be awesome.
Andrea Leadsom has never had and never will have the first clue about international trade. Thick as sh!t! But people listen to her and her ilk and believe all the cr*p they come out with.
If only there were some reporters who had the knowledge to completely stop them spouting this nonsense for the last 8 years.