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What a clusterfeck this all is
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What a clusterfeck this all is
Yes, and the British fisherman can't get their shellfish to European markets in good time, so they lose both ways. Who'd have thought it?
Taking back control... who would have thought our civil servants and politicians might not be up to the job eh... I'm already looking forward to the rejoin campaign and I'm thinking 10 years not 20
After 10 years with the UK taking the Mickey, I would like to see how EU members would receive an application to join the EU.
It would probably depend how much money was attached to it
I don't think so. It would be attached to how much trust and respect is left. A country that is continuously disruptive and continuously demand to be treated exceptionally isn't worth it, particularly when as a sovereign country they could recreate Brexit for the benefit of the next national elections. Peace is the best currency on the international scene and in this case, peace of mind, remember that Brexit has been a waste of money for both sides, if money was that important Brexit wouldn't be a thing. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future the EU were happy to create a strong relationship with the UK while actively keeping them out of the EU.
Agree with @JPRouve . I'd love to rejoin tomorrow if we could and have said before I personally have no issues with closer political union etc etc. But I can't see any way in which we rejoin the EU in a generation.
Both from the UK perspective (there's still a hardcore significant Brexit component in the UK and always will be, people won't want to admit they're wrong and I've noticed even people who are very pro-Europe generally are finding themselves a bit aggrieved at times because of the inevitable friction between the UK and EU, any rejoin referendum would be similarly slim margins imo) and from the EU perspective (we've always been an awkward member, we've caused everyone a lot of headaches in the last 5 years, even most of the pro-EU lot in the UK are generally not as pro closer political integration).
Yes we'll be a loss economically, culturally, politically etc to the EU but peace of mind probably will be significantly better for the EU and they can carry on with their business without one of their largest and most important members always throwing up roadblocks.
Both from the UK perspective (there's still a hardcore significant Brexit component in the UK and always will be, people won't want to admit they're wrong and I've noticed even people who are very pro-Europe generally are finding themselves a bit aggrieved at times because of the inevitable friction between the UK and EU, any rejoin referendum would be similarly slim margins imo) and from the EU perspective (we've always been an awkward member, we've caused everyone a lot of headaches in the last 5 years, even most of the pro-EU lot in the UK are generally not as pro closer political integration).
Yes we'll be a loss economically, culturally, politically etc to the EU but peace of mind probably will be significantly better for the EU and they can carry on with their business without one of their largest and most important members always throwing up roadblocks.
You're almost at the fifth anniversary of the vote and even the first implementations of the agreement aren't even put in place.
Another five years of moaning from the Brexiteers and blaming the EU.
Nationalistic RW press waving the flags.
Total set of incompetent politicians on both sides.
Anyone seriously think the EU would welcome them back until the UK's attitude changes completely.
Forty or fifty years possibly.
At the G7 he looked less respectable than a guy who got slapped by a guy that clearly still listens to Grunge.
Absolutely. As @JPRouve said, the loss of trust and respect now runs so deep it's hard to see how anyone in this generation of EU politicians would want to go through negotiations again with such a bad faith operator.
Brexit is still somehow being championed as a success and if we were to rejoin, wouldn't we need to adopt the euro? Can't imagine that happening.
Re-joining has been a dead duck since the elections in December 2019. And sadly, even with a less nationalist UK government, there is no obvious alternative option. Neither the Norwegian nor the Swiss model would be practicable for the UK, even if offered.
Another big Brexit win that’s gone unnoticed is the postal service.
Even tracked postage from UK to Europe now takes weeks instead of the previous 4 working days due to customs clearance.
Had a few things sent lately, some for daughter’s birthday from parents, 3 weeks later and still in customs check.
So much winning.
Even tracked postage from UK to Europe now takes weeks instead of the previous 4 working days due to customs clearance.
Had a few things sent lately, some for daughter’s birthday from parents, 3 weeks later and still in customs check.
So much winning.
Should it really be taking that long even with Brexit? Family have sent stuff to the UK and (previously other) Eu countries in the past and its arrived within a few days usually.
Which to be honest we took as a big win because we thought it would disappear totally coming from Egypt....
I must admit I'm no fan of brexit but for me at least the reality is that posting parcels has been pretty much unaffected... the only parcels I've had issues with is where people have not sent the proper customs declarations with it... (presents are hard because you want to wrap them and for it to be a surprise but they have to have an item description and value in the customs docs...
I read The Times every day…
only because I get a subscription with my AMEX card.
Read mostly for the sport, but it’s set up pretty well that you can dive in and out.
Im surprised to hear more people read the telegraph that the times.
The Times sports content is exceptional. I used to buy it every Monday for The Game section.
It’s too Tory Tub-Thumpy for me to read it cover to cover daily though.
I find the app layout really good. If you avoid the ‘comment’ tab, it’s fairly neutral.
i wouldn’t pay for a subscription, but I do look at it most days now I’ve got it.
Customs declarations done bang on and no wrapping… both stopped at customs since arrival at Swedish/Stockholm customs.
https://www.royalmail.com/track-your-item#/tracking-results/RN163301702GB
https://www.royalmail.com/track-your-item#/tracking-results/RN527201755GB
Mate who sent first package works for amcor, has had similar issues sending to Holland and Belgium.
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But the vast majority of unionists in NI, and the largest unionist party, were in on the gamble.
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I've not had any issues... though stopped using royal fail several years ago due to them being a shambolic clusterfec
This tosser is supposed to be the leader of the opposition. Clearly he understands nothing about Brexit as was totally apparent during the past five years.
Obviously he hasn't realised that the Withdrawal Agreement was signed a lot more than 6 months ago that was supposed to have been ratified by parliament and voted for and I believe he himself voted for it.
It is part of British law apart from International law and the UK have to implement the NI Protocol. There do have to be checks between NI and GB if the the UK does not align completely with EU standards.
What a hopeless prat. Free ride for Johnson.
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Looks like an AU UK free trade agreement is a done deal
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06...kingdom-trade-deal-morrison-johnson/100215368
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06...kingdom-trade-deal-morrison-johnson/100215368
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Potential ramifications of the deal discussed here while waiting for the actual details.
At the end of 15 years you should have saved enough to buy the Brexit colouring book at 30p per person per year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57518910
Despite this massive drop in UK food exports to the EU, the government says it is too early to make any judgement...
Despite this massive drop in UK food exports to the EU, the government says it is too early to make any judgement...
Who knew that rushing through a trade deal just to give brexiteers something to shout about would be a bad deal for us?
Even Boris let the mask slip and said it was more important “politically and symbolically”.
Even Boris let the mask slip and said it was more important “politically and symbolically”.
To quote Boris again... 'feck Business'. Tbf he's doing well on that front.
He is the acting PM while #scottyfrommatketimg is at the G7. He is utterly despicable and I hate him even more than #scottyfrommarketing. Today's highlight was acusing The Greens of being "traitors to Australia" when they asked him why the government were ignoring the impacts of global warming on farmers.
It's funny that you mention that because while reading some of the positive comments about him, I told myself that you influenced my negative view of Australian conservatives, with environment being arguably the worst of it. From what I see Australia has had many problems with water management and water pollution but the conservatives are flippantly ignoring it. IIRC there are even farmers that have issues with it, due to the lack of sustainability, even if they are some of the beneficiaries of conservative politics?
Anyway it was kind of strange to see a politician essentially say that he doesn't give a damn about the other side of the deal, hours after signing it.
Besides fishing, farming and financial services, we're wrecking the food and drink industry too.
UK exports of food and drink to the EU fell 46.6% to £1.7bn in the first quarter, but the slump compared to the first three months of 2019, stripping out the Covid effect, was even greater at 55.1%, according to the Food and Drink Federation. Exports to non-EU countries rose though in Q1 2021...but by only 0.3%.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
UK exports of food and drink to the EU fell 46.6% to £1.7bn in the first quarter, but the slump compared to the first three months of 2019, stripping out the Covid effect, was even greater at 55.1%, according to the Food and Drink Federation. Exports to non-EU countries rose though in Q1 2021...but by only 0.3%.
https://www.ft.com/content/e93a6512-73de-486d-9e00-80d9c8aa3ca1
I think steel and tourism are the next target industries to destroy. Hail Liz Truss, clueless wonderwoman.
Next year though 0.30% and the year after that 0.300 % - hundred times the amount of today. That's your typical brexwin.
I am waiting for the UK superfarms that @finneh was talking about. easy peasy
The whisky industry must gagging for Scottish independence
Survive or die
Those are generally the two options.
The Slogan used to be 'Brexit means Brexit' now it's 'Survive or die'. Wave a flag!
You're speaking to someone who would unilaterally and irrespective of reciprocity remove all tariffs into the UK.
Maybe compete or die?
Liz Truss is in the house. Death to British industry.