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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Everything about Brexit is really bad for the UK. I'm still waiting for a Brexiteer to tell me anything positive about it.

Maybe someone from Sunderland could chime in.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Not exactly great for our farmers here in Ireland but isn't this really bad for the UK? As far as I'm aware the UK is not food sufficient and can't support its 66m population without importing.
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Depends as a lot of people still take world war 2 rationing as an example thinking but as a country we'd dropped to less than 30% between the 2 world war, we're currently at 76% foods grown in the country and 61% overall. The government made a huge push post world war2 to make sure if a suspected third world war were to happen the UK would be more food secure. So the UK can support its 66m population for its daily calorie intake ( especially in cereals which is currently at 100%). So we can support ourselves but the variety would suddenly drop if we had no imports, which we will have. Food isn't even in our top 10 imports.
 
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Gambit said:
Depends as a lot of people still take world war 2 rationing as an example thinking but as a country we'd dropped to less than 30% between the 2 world war, we're currently at 76% foods grown in the country and 61% overall. The government made a huge push post world war2 to make sure if a suspected third world war were to happen the UK would be more food secure. So the UK can support its 66m population for its daily calorie intake ( especially in cereals which is currently at 100%). So we can support ourselves but the variety would suddenly drop if we had no imports, which we will have. Food isn't even in our top 10 imports.
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The sunlit uplands of rationing and living on gruel.
 
Brwned said:
That link now says 17% rather than 70%...something fishy going on!
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:eek:They've actually corrected it! Hopefully that idiot has been told to stop spreading that bullshit.
I'm genuinely shocked they've changed it and in the fecking Express of all Brexit rags.
 
Jippy said:
:eek:They've actually corrected it! Hopefully that idiot has been told to stop spreading that bullshit.
I'm genuinely shocked they've changed it and in the fecking Express of all Brexit rags.
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Problem is it's not 17% either. The maximum by any EU country is under 11 % which is Ireland, probably closer to 1.7%
 
Massive Spanner said:
Not exactly great for our farmers here in Ireland but isn't this really bad for the UK? As far as I'm aware the UK is not food sufficient and can't support its 66m population without importing.
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10% of all UK imports is food . Remember the kerfuffle when DHL cocked up the KFC order and they ran out of chicken a few years ago. That only lasted around 9 days. This is for a generation.
 
horsechoker said:
blue passports
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bastard europeans forcing us to have blue passports
the League of nations imposed blue passports on the UK in the 1920's
we should go back to the black ones, or no passports at all and just sailing round the world nicking other peoples countries
 
To think that so much effort went into making a deal that's worse than the status quo for every involved party is mind blowing. Imagine the millions of hours of work, negotiating, etc. which were invested in order to make a deal which essentially is a backwards development. Has to be the biggest waste of time in history.
 
29million spent on a 'Festival of Brexit in 2022 but couldn't feed the fecking kids.

Covid gives the government and Brexiteers an excuse to hide behind which is the exact sort of thing these tossers resort to.
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Problem is it's not 17% either. The maximum by any EU country is under 11 % which is Ireland, probably closer to 1.7%
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I had 14% in my head as the EU's figure. Either way, the fact people like Bridgen are in government underlines the idiocracy we've slid into.
 
Penna said:
The average Brit who voted leave will see absolutely no positive changes from Jan 1st. Some will even lose their jobs. Some groceries will cost more and it'll be more difficult to have a fortnight's holiday in Spain or France in the summer. Many of the European professionals who've been propping up British public services (particularly healthcare) will have left for good.

What are the positive benefits for Mr & Mrs Average? I can't see any at all.
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I totally agree. Even any theoretical positive change is, at least imo, only theoretical and likely to come far down the line.

Literally everything for me in the short to medium term is a negative. And I'm not even going to be as affected by things as many others in the UK.

I can't decide whether I feel sorry for these people in Sunderland or still a bit angry that they and others voted for it in the first place.
 
africanspur said:
I can't decide whether I feel sorry for these people in Sunderland or still a bit angry that they and others voted for it in the first place.
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A bit of both but Cameron allowed this shitshow to happen for a stupid political quid pro quo that backfired. That would be a good place to start blaming and then follow the breadcrumbs.
 
Wibble said:
A bit of both but Cameron allowed this shitshow to happen for a stupid political quid pro quo that backfired. That would be a good place to start blaming and then follow the breadcrumbs.
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Breadcrumbs then lead us onto the most ironic of Tory soundbites in 2017, especially when in a Brexit context, "strong and stable".
 
Jippy said:
I had 14% in my head as the EU's figure. Either way, the fact people like Bridgen are in government underlines the idiocracy we've slid into.
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Yes for goods only it is around that figure. It's weird that around 75% of UK's business is with the EU, USA and China with whom the UK have no agreements lined up but this doesn't register and are celebrating these tiny agreements. I also saw Labour's Emily Thornberry telling the government to hurry up with other agreements with Mexico,Singapore and Ghana etc - I mean Ghana is 0.1% - which universe do these politicians live in?
 
Paul the Wolf said:
Yes for goods only it is around that figure. It's weird that around 75% of UK's business is with the EU, USA and China with whom the UK have no agreements lined up but this doesn't register and are celebrating these tiny agreements. I also saw Labour's Emily Thornberry telling the government to hurry up with other agreements with Mexico,Singapore and Ghana etc - I mean Ghana is 0.1% - which universe do these politicians live in?
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Our relations with both the US and China seem pretty much at their lowest ebb for years, so expectations are low there.

Can only assume the government is trying to pick off the small fry to generate some much needed positive headlines. But yep, Labour need to be all over them on this, asking what deals are being negotiated. I don't remember hearing anything about the potential for a deal with China tbh.


Paul the Wolf said:
Glimpse of the future

Trial of Brexit border checks causes five-mile lorry queues in Kent
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Smugglers to get a free pass for a few weeks at our side...

the UK government has said it will phase these checks on the British side over six weeks to reduce the chances of gridlock in Dover and on Kent roads
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Genuine question.

Is there anything that could possibly be done now to have a positive outcome?
 
bsCallout said:
Genuine question.

Is there anything that could possibly be done now to have a positive outcome?
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Depends on what you mean by positive.

Can anything happen that will mean this is as beneficial to the UK as staying in the EU? No.

But a good deal will minimize the damage a lot more than no deal. Sadly the chances of that aren't very high.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Depends on what you mean by positive.

Can anything happen that will mean this is as beneficial to the UK as staying in the EU? No.

But a good deal will minimize the damage a lot more than no deal. Sadly the chances of that aren't very high.
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Are this is almost certainly a daft Q. Is there anything that can be done i.e. by the public, to prevent either a no-deal brexit or brexit in general?

I still can't believe the public were allowed to vote on such an important decision which very few facts presented.
 
bsCallout said:
Are this is almost certainly a daft Q. Is there anything that can be done i.e. by the public, to prevent either a no-deal brexit or brexit in general?

I still can't believe the public were allowed to vote on such an important decision which very few facts presented.
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The public rendered themselves powerless when they voted the Tories to an 80 seat majority.
 
bsCallout said:
Are this is almost certainly a daft Q. Is there anything that can be done i.e. by the public, to prevent either a no-deal brexit or brexit in general?

I still can't believe the public were allowed to vote on such an important decision which very few facts presented.
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The same public who voted for it and then voted the tories into a majority? Wouldn't count on it mate.
 
bsCallout said:
Are this is almost certainly a daft Q. Is there anything that can be done i.e. by the public, to prevent either a no-deal brexit or brexit in general?

I still can't believe the public were allowed to vote on such an important decision which very few facts presented.
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Brexit has already happened on 31st January 2020 so that is not reversable. The UK will leave the transition period on 31st December 2020 before which date the government should have been preparing for what happens on 1st January.
Unfortunately for the UK the government have done almost nothing because they have no idea what to do. It was all a fantasy which will become harsh reality very soon. The UK public have to make those politicians pay for selling the country down the river which will become apparent next year.
 
At this point, I think it will be an agreement on the negotiations. Boris and Co are not boasting nonsense about pulling from the table for a month
 
In case anyone somehow thinks Rishi Sunak is 'a good guy for a Tory'.

 
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