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While the richer people from the ethnic monorities are not inconvenienced. See the pattern.

More money brings you an easy life. Shocking.

A few brown people get in but they still approved a policy they knew would disproportionately effect ethnic minorities. Being out right racist is impossible these days, this way they get most of what they want, fewer brown spouses
 
Do you have a source for this. Since it seems otherwise from whatever I have read and heard.

The state website and people from my family. In some countries it's almost automatic (Maghreb and "french" Africa) but people cheat a lot, so sometimes the police investigate after the visas are granted.
 
A few brown people get in but they still approved a policy they knew would disproportionately effect ethnic minorities. Being out right racist is impossible these days, this way they get most of what they want, fewer brown spouses
No it targets those earning less than £20k regardless of their ethnic backgroung. They can be British, European, Chinese or African - no money no spouse visa.

While I dont approve of the rule on a humanitarian basis. Its not at all racist. You need to take of those victim tinted glasses.
 
No it targets those earning less than £20k regardless of their ethnic backgroung. They can be British, European, Chinese or African - no money no spouse visa.

Thry can be but they are most likely to be Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi, which is who this policy was targeting. If Theresa May had her way the income level would have been £38000
 
Thry can be but they are most likely to be Indian, Pakistani or Bangladeshi, which is who this policy was targeting. If Theresa May had her way the income level would have been £38000
South asian migrants are likely to be on higher incomes if they made it to the UK on some sort of employment visa.

If you mean British nationals of south asian descent, then again they are on a parity income wise with overall British polulation.
 
Its an equitable system for a group of nations who largly follow the same rules

Oh good. That works so well with our alternative premier league, and other equitable justice systems that largely follow the same rules.
 
South asian migrants are likely to be on higher incomes if they made it to the UK on some sort of employment visa.

If you mean British nationals of south asian descent, then again they are on a parity income wise with overall British polulation.

I'm not sure thats true and even if it is they are more likely to marry outside of the EU so disproportionately effected by the policy
 
So from what I am hearing Brexit is turning out rather well for you guys? I saw somewhere in the papers that tons of new jobs where added and they are thinking about cutting taxes on buisness as well?
If true that is great to hear. Never really liked EU
 
So from what I am hearing Brexit is turning out rather well for you guys? I saw somewhere in the papers that tons of new jobs where added and they are thinking about cutting taxes on bushiness as well?
If true that is great to hear. Never really liked EU
Everything's Awsome!
 
Everything's Awsome!
Sweet. I never liked the idea of a single market economy that gives a majority of sovereign power on businesses to some so called central government of an entire continent instead of the people at home. Cheers to freedom!
 
Sweet. I never liked the idea of a single market economy that gives a majority of sovereign power on businesses to some so called central government of an entire continent instead of the people at home. Cheers to freedom!

That's not how the EU works though.
 
Then there is the fact that cars from outside of eu still carry substantial duty and taxes.

I really doubt Daimler, Volkswagen and BMW will be too happy with the greman govt if their cars started to carry that sort of duty. They might have to start building inside the UK.

The UK market is far too small for that.
 
Basically is though.

Well no, the powers are in the hands of the governments member of the EU, in the hands of people elected in their own countries. Now if your problem is that all the countries have to find a common ground then it defies the idea of single market.
 
bury red only said what most people think without beating much around the bush. Lets face it, xenophobia played a big part in the leaver's campaign

A huge part. Probably the most signficant factor combined with some delusional idea the we would we the Great Briton of WW2 sucess and Empire if only it weren't for these pesky foreign types holding us back.
 
Sweet. I never liked the idea of a single market economy that gives a majority of sovereign power on businesses to some so called central government of an entire continent instead of the people at home. Cheers to freedom!
Not the sovereignty debate again :nervous:
 
The UK market is far too small for that.
20% of all cars made in germany are sold in UK and about 10% of all BMWs made globally are sold in UK.

Any person of sound mind will call that a humongous market.
 
So from what I am hearing Brexit is turning out rather well for you guys? I saw somewhere in the papers that tons of new jobs where added and they are thinking about cutting taxes on buisness as well?
If true that is great to hear. Never really liked EU

Didn't realise the Telegraph had branched out.
 
20% of all cars made in germany are sold in UK and about 10% of all BMWs made globally are sold in UK.

Any person of sound mind will call that a humongous market.

The EU market is bigger though. And you jumped from 14% to 20% in a year?
 
Well no, the powers are in the hands of the governments member of the EU, in the hands of people elected in their own countries. Now if your problem is that all the countries have to find a common ground then it defies the idea of single market.
Doesn't really make it all the better. In my opinion, the fact that a nation's control over their economic affairs is mostly in the hands of a big government is insanity.
 
Doesn't really make it all the better. In my opinion, the fact that a nation's control over their economic affairs is mostly in the hands of a big government is insanity.

It's fine if you are against the idea of single market.
 
The EU market is bigger though. And you jumped from 14% to 20% in a year?
Yes, but if we are assuming that Japnese car makers will have to feck off from the UK then there will be similar consequenses for the german auto industry as well.
Neither are likely to happen as some sort of tariff free access will be sorted. And the number is just above 20%.
 
All we need now is a rousing chorus of Land of Hope and glory.

And energy prices have gone up since the Britex vote. So that is going well.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/12/fixed-rate-dual-fuel-energy-tariffs-brexit-uswitch

Yet had dropped by 25% prior to Britex. To a level about half what I pay in Australia for what it is worth.

Instead of being snide, you could explain why the rate of VAT on UK energy bills is best determined by the EU? In a time of increasing fuel poverty, governments are bound by a tax higher than they would otherwise set.
 
Instead of being snide, you could explain why the rate of VAT on UK energy bills is best determined by the EU? In a time of increasing fuel poverty, governments are bound by a tax higher than they would otherwise set.

Pretty certain all member states control and set their own rates of VAT don't they @Nick 0208 Ldn :confused:

Why else would the standard rate in UK be 20% but in Sweden 25%? Are the EU telling Sweden to collect more VAT? Confused?
 
Pretty certain all member states control and set their own rates of VAT don't they @Nick 0208 Ldn :confused:

Why else would the standard rate in UK be 20% but in Sweden 25%? Are the EU telling Sweden to collect more VAT? Confused?

The EU stipulates minimums of VAT for all products and services, below which a country may not go without unanimous agreement. The UK might wish to impose no such tax on utility bills, yet there is mandatory requirement of 5% or higher.

The lowest that the standard rate can go is 15%.



ETA: Just seen @JPRouve's reply.

It would have been a worthy point of debate during the campaign IMO, but the discourse became dominated by worst-case scenarios (which already look a bit silly) and how many 100s of millions of pounds we send to Brussels.
 
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The EU stipulates minimums of VAT for all products and services, below which a country may not go without unanimous agreement. The UK might wish to impose no such tax on utility bills, yet there is mandatory requirement of 5% or higher.

They could do it on all the other product but you still pay 20%, don't kid yourself they are happy to make you 5%.
 
Is it the vitriol from without or the vitriol from within you fail to understand. Because I can assure you the majority who were sadly in the minority on the 23 of June know damned well it's a mistake you are dragging us into and believe that we have every right to kick and scream as you drag us ever closer to your mistaken anti-EUtopia.

The vitriol in this thread.

Just to be absolutely clear for the hard of thinking I voted remain in the referendum as I have stated several times before.

The difference between us is that I don't want to attack everyone who voted differently to me and I understand that I'm in a minority. That has consequences and it might turn out to be a mistake and we don't know yet and we won't know for some time but the bigger mistake is dealing with it as people like you are dealing with it. All of the terrible things you accuse those who voted for Brexit of are pretty clearly doubly true of your own thinking.

Or do you think your posts are a great example of tolerance of difference?
 
The EU stipulates minimums of VAT for all products and services, below which a country may not go without unanimous agreement. The UK might wish to impose no such tax on utility bills, yet there is mandatory requirement of 5% or higher.

So the countries have control to a degree but the EU sets a minimum, ok.

5% VAT on fuel is tiny in fairness (also 25% on it here), so sounds more like EU trying to set basic rules to prevent economies going in the shitter?