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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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MadMike said:
Not really, they weren’t.

A financial crisis of an inter-dependent banking system that originated in the US subprime mortgage market? I find hard to pin that on New Labour even if I want to.

Not really sure how the Little Englander mentality is blamed on New Labour either but sounds quite bogus to me.
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Not according to the Torygraph and DM. Everything bad that has ever happened and hasn't yet happened is all down to Labour.
Everyone who no matter how remotely agrees with Labour are Communists/Marxist/Trotskyist hell bent on destroying Britain.
 
Not able to listen to that clip right now, any chance of a quick summary?
 
Watching Boris be PM is like watching one long episode of Have I Got News For You hosted by Boris himself.
 
I’m surprised more remain MPs are not making the point about why we must respect an advisory referendum result from 3 years ago when we’ll have 2 general elections before finally leaving?

Pro Leave keep banging on about ‘the will of the people’. Well that can change, sometimes very quickly, else why have the Fixed Term Parliament Act.

Why is the result of that referendum so holy and sacrosanct, especially as it’s supposedly the most important issue as a nation for an entire generation and the original 51.8:48.2 was such a close result anyway.

I understand the politics of Pro Leave, but am very disappointed by the Pro Remain inability to make this point. Labour would win next GE if they were solidly Remain and willing to form coalition with LibDem.
 
It baffles me how anyone switched on enough to see through the tabloid rhetoric still believes that Corbyn is less trustworthy than any PM or the vast majority of cabinet members we've seen this millennium.

Even if/where he has ulterior motives, at least it's not just about making his mates richer at the expense of ordinary people.
 
owlo said:
One thing I liked about the US and Israel is the system where they could buy a plot of land for say $100 in a new town, and then were responsible for building the home themselves. We have load of land here (both in GB and Ireland) but it seems mostly ringfenced or owned by the old rich.

Definitely to the bold. But I don't begrudge unemployed people ipads or tv's etc, because they need a reason to live. Most of poverty is much more complex than 'lazy people.' I'm sure most people would like to be richer than poorer, and it's definitely an important function to make work worth it. I don't know much about Ireland, but in the UK they could do so much with tax relief and help to startup businesses, and push money into social welfare to bring people out of the malaise of not being able to go out of the house.

I kinda thing it's what the wealthy classes want the middle class to think, that it's the poor screwing them over. Meanwhile they are probably working for a company that posts billions in profits whilst barely getting by.
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thats exactly what it is

the conservatives think (or at least want the majority to think) that the majority of the poor are poor because they are lazy and feckless and therefore deserve to be poor. Wheras the rich are rich because they are intelligent and hardworking.
hence the narrative that they always peddle that those that scam the welfare system are a major problem, whereas all the research shows they account for less than 1% of the welfare budget. The narrative drives home the message that the poor are feckless.

Whereas most of the funding issues could be solved if you could get the rich people and rich corporations to pay the taxes on their wealth that they should.
I am not saying overtax the rich, just that they should pay the same proportion of their income in tax as the poor do. currently they pay much less.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Not a lot in the grand scheme of things but I'm sure you knew that otherwise you wouldn't have asked. It's not really about how many abuse it though, is it? It's the fact that so many can. People who work are struggling to afford to buy their own places to live and paying extortionate rent so obviously they're going to be miffed about it, everyone needs to blame someone!
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You should rather blame the many landlords you have in parliament then.
 
IF we have an election and IF Boris Johnson is shown up for the bullying little weasel that he is and IF the Tories still win whilst Scotland becomes more SNP (got my vote officially after they promised a new super campus for the college and schools in my area) when does everyone want to move into my house?

We'll welcome everyone, even the miserable bastards who live in Sunderland.
 
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