Drifter
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If she is strongly against Corbyn because she sees him as a brexiteer ,then maybe i would understand.
I think Starmer and long-bailey are the favourites... I think long-bailey would be seen as the most closely allied to Corbyn
Thornberry looked to be a good bet but shes been out of step with cotbyn over brexit - that might actually play well for her with the membership so I wouldnt rule her out either
If she is strongly against Corbyn because she sees him as a brexiteer ,then maybe i would understand.
Who is the chicken in this scenario?
Who do you see as next Labour leader? I think they’re suffering the same fate as the Democrats in America. As their opposition and the general political spectrum shifts right, the left suddenly seems more and more radical and as a result, they’re being decided into two distinct factions with less and less in common. The progressive left and the more moderate centrists. The centrists can’t win without the left but the left can’t ideologically compromise with the centrists.
The right doesn’t have the same issues because at the heart of everything they’re about one thing - looking after their own interests and they can generally all compromise if there is enough in it for them or failing that be compensated enough to compromise on their ideals.
That's like asking me if I prefer to eat dog or cat for dinner. What happened to chicken?
@esmufc07
I’ve quoted you and posed a question directly to you and you appear to have chosen to respond to someone else’s response to my post instead of directly responding to me.
I find this rude and frankly disrespectful and I think a hand written reply is the only cordial course of action from here on in.
Luke warm regards,
Pexbo
even I would prefer corbyn to himInteresting analysis.
Honestly I have no idea. As a party I feel they need to shift back to the centre somewhat, and if I could hand pick somebody I'd most likely go for Yvette Cooper as I think she is excellent. However that is highly unlikely, so it will most likely be somebody on the front bench. I wouldn't mind Starmer so much, but they'll probably go for Thornberry or god forbid Burgon (The worst of the lot).
If she is strongly against Corbyn because she sees him as a brexiteer ,then maybe i would understand.
Look this is only my perception but that remains to be seen. If he really gave a damn about the ordinary people he would have been more passionate about stopping brexitHowever he may come across, he does give a damn about what happens to ordinary people.
It’s more the way he comes across as a condescending school headmaster
Why doesn't Boris, the largest of the Johnson's, simply eat the other Johnson's?
Why doesn't Boris, the largest of the Johnson's, simply eat the other Johnson's?
Tory Lite.
Not worth listening to.
Considering the chances of a Labour outright majority in the general elections seems very minimal and you’re very likely to need her and Sturgeon on side to form a coalition government... I suggest perhaps you do listen.
Like I said @DiseaseOfTheAge she's nothing but a massive pair of tits.
Like I said @DiseaseOfTheAge she's nothing but a massive pair of tits.
Neither of them will join a coalition with Corbyn’s Labour unfortunately.
Yes, yes. Swinson's crap. You're a tiresome misogynist. I'm well aware.Like I said @DiseaseOfTheAge she's nothing but a massive pair of tits.
Neither of them will join a coalition with Corbyn’s Labour unfortunately.
They may not have a choice if they want to stop no deal.
Considering the chances of a Labour outright majority in the general elections seems very minimal and you’re very likely to need her and Sturgeon on side to form a coalition government... I suggest perhaps you do listen.
It's gross is what it is.Your obsession with tits will be your undoing old man
They may not have a choice if they want to stop no deal.
...by moving to the center?
Yeah right.
Hard Remain - everyone is nice to everyoneIf remain won a 2nd ref, what type of remain do you think we would be arguing over for the next 5 years?
This is the UK, pal. The chances of outright winning an election from a far-left position and without bringing the centrist voters on board... are exactly 0.
Genuinely don’t think either of them would risk their political careers like that.
Sturgeon has done an excellent job of building the SNP to be a credible, well tempered socialist party. Swinson is in charge of a party that was decimated by a disaster coalition a decade ago.
Both will want to avoid being dragged into the media circus around Corbyn and risk having their own and their parties political good will blown apart, even if that means a no deal Brexit which sadly I can imagine most opposition politicians licking their lips at if it means the Tories taking the blame and collapsing because of and giving the other parties a shot at the rebuilding process with none of the responsibilities.
Tl;dr politicians are self serving.
Look this is only my perception but that remains to be seen. If he really gave a damn about the ordinary people he would have been more passionate about stopping brexit
Ha ha! First time for everything.Don’t think anyone has ever said that to me, thank you.