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[MadMike]

UK or US. Its policies.
We are where we are because of going Tory Lite.
Brexit will bring massive pain.

It wont be about Left or Right. It will be about what people need.

We are? Ah shit, and here I thought we were in it because of a:
a) Financial crisis which brought national debt and recession
b) Traditionally eurosceptic country with island mentality.

Brexit will bring massive pain, but the policies of socialist eurosceptic are sure to deliver us

 

[Fluctuation0161]

I agree. A new referendum will solve nothing. What happens if remain wins by 1% this time? Or leave wins by 1.8% again.

The only way to fix this is for the Government to admit that putting the choice to the people in the first place was a stupid idea because the issue is far too big and broad to be decided like that, and revoke the whole thing and apologize. That will obviously not happen though because The UK is run by fecktards.

And populated by them. In that sense maybe it is a representative democracy.

 

[Red Dreams]

We are? Ah shit, and here I thought we were in it because of a:
a) Financial crisis which brought national debt and recession
b) Traditionally eurosceptic country with island mentality.

...and it all happened by itself.

 

[Sweet Square]

We are? Ah shit, and here I thought we were in it because of a:
a) Financial crisis which brought national debt and recession
b) Traditionally eurosceptic country with island mentality.

Both of these were helped on and promoted by New Labour.

 

[Red Dreams]

Both of these were helped on and promoted by New Labour.

Surely not Tory Lite.

 

[Grinner]

Why are these thick journos asking the same question about his brother?

 

[JPRouve]

Why doesn't Boris, the largest of the Johnson's, simply eat the other Johnson's?

Sir, that is some finesse. Well done.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

The issue is whether Labour has become institutionally antisemitic under him, which is why the EHRC are investigating (isn't their report due soon?). I happen to think it has, and coupled with a pretty terrible Labour policy on Europe over the last few years, it is why I think Labour has fared poorly in the polls. Ultimately though he is not trusted, and if he were to step aside I do think Labour would have a surge in support.

If he doesn't and he loses the next election, then he would surely have to step down. My worry now is the NEC and key positions within Labour have been filled by momentum types and those loyal to Corbyn, so Corbyn actually stepping down wouldn't change much.

All that said, I will vote Labour at an election as I see it as the best way to stop a no deal Brexit.

What anti semitism exists in the Labour party that didn't exist pre Corbyn? I think they've tried to root it out. Which is more than can be said for the Tories and their prejudices

 

[Sassy Colin]

Yes, yes. Swinson's crap. You're a tiresome misogynist. I'm well aware.

Being a traffic warden has turned you into a miserable sod. Lighten up.

 

[MadMike]

Both of these were helped on and promoted by New Labour.

Not really, they weren’t.

A financial crisis of an inter-dependent banking system that originated in the US subprime mortgage market? I find hard to pin that on New Labour even if I want to.

Not really sure how the Little Englander mentality is blamed on New Labour either but sounds quite bogus to me.

For the record, I think you’re assuming from previous conversations that I was a New Labour voter on Tony’s days. Never voted Labour. Only voted in 2015 and 2017, couldn’t even vote in 2010. No citizenship.

 

[MadMike]

So that's why I find her strangely attractive then. Thanks.

For the love of god man. Bleach your eyes

 

[Sweet Square]

Police anyone ?

 

[Fully Fledged]

Why are these thick journos asking the same question about his brother?

Because when you have a sharp knife sticking it in more than once can increase the damage.

 

[Grinner]

Because when you have a sharp knife sticking it in more than once can increase the damage.

It's a stupid question. I argue with my brother about stuff too.

 

[Jacko21]

Why are these thick journos asking the same question about his brother?

‘If your own brother doesn’t trust you...’ is an incredibly powerful line.

It’s a real kicker.

 

[Fully Fledged]

Police anyone ?

I think it's unfair to expect them to stand behind him looking neutral throughout all this.

 

[Grinner]

Johnson has the law on it's knees

 

[Fully Fledged]

It's a stupid question. I argue with my brother about stuff too.

Does your brother say you are against the national interest.

 

[Grinner]

Does your brother say you are against the national interest.

He does to my sister and mother who support Brexit.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Why doesn't Boris, the largest of the Johnson's, simply eat the other Johnson's?

There used to be twelve of them.

 

[Fully Fledged]

There used to be twelve of them.

I thought that was the Mogg's

 

[Adisa]

This has me fuming.

 

[Sweet Square]

A financial crisis of an inter-dependent banking system that originated in the US subprime mortgage market? I find hard to pin that on New Labour even if I want to.

They didn't of course cause the financial crisis but they never cared about just much power the finance sector had in the UK. They weren't interested in changing the fundamental model of the UK economy, so when things when bang they were fecked - Peter Mandelson "Intensely relaxed about people getting filthy rich as long as they pay their taxes". Not to mention they've tried for years now to get rid of the labour leader who would challenge this model.

They in the end believed that Thatcher was right.

Not really sure how the Little Englander mentality is blamed on New Labour either but sounds quite bogus to me.

Gordon Brown - ''British jobs for British workers".

David Blanket described local schools as "swamped" by non-English speaking immigrants.

2001 - Labour opened Yarl’s Wood Immigration Detention Centre

2004 - Tony Blair election promise to deport more asylum-seekers.

Already posted on here before but Blair speech on immigration at the White Cliff in Dover. And on and on it goes.


New Labour were actually quite right wing and clearly played a part in growing the Little Englander mentality.

 

[Fully Fledged]

This has me fuming.

Same old Lib Dems. I don't know how anyone could trust them.

 

[Flying high]

This is the UK, pal. The chances of outright winning an election from a far-left position and without bringing the centrist voters on board... are exactly 0.

The last Labour manifesto was a long way from 'far left'.

I expect the next one to be similarly sensible, with policies which, when polled, a large majority of the country agree.

The press have done a proper stitch-up job on this country.

 

[MadMike]

...and it all happened by itself.

No it did not. But I reckon Blair’s regulatory power didn’t extend as far as Wall Street. Not that it was easy to spot and regulate against the things that were happening without the massive power of hindsight, anyway. The Bank and the Fed, who are partly responsible for oversight were also caught out.

 

[Buster15]

C: But you could break all your bones or even die
B: Now you're just scaremongering - you have no proof of that because I've never jumped off a cliff before.

Thanks for that. Much better ending.

 

[Flying high]

Johnson 'I'd rather be dead in a ditch than delay brexit'

Now that is worth a referendum.

 

[owlo]

Blaming Labour for the

It's a stupid question. I argue with my brother about stuff too.

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This is important stuff for many people. They don't look at numbers or policy, but something like "even his own brother wont work with him or back his vision" is powerful stuff. It'll play for days and get in the heads of voters

 

[Buster15]

The last Labour manifesto was a long way from 'far left'.

I expect the next one to be similarly sensible, with policies which, when polled, a large majority of the country agree.

The press have done a proper stitch-up job on this country.

They could have copied the Tories manifesto and still got slaughtered by the cancerous Daily Mail.

 

[Flying high]

Blaming Labour for the

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This is important stuff for many people. They don't look at numbers or policy, but something like "even his own brother wont work with him or back his vision" is powerful stuff. It'll play for days and get in the heads of voters

It certainly blows away any possibility that, behind the scenes, they know what they're doing.

 

[Buster15]

This is the UK, pal. The chances of outright winning an election from a far-left position and without bringing the centrist voters on board... are exactly 0.

At least Tony Blair and New Labour understood the facts of life.

 

[Sweet Square]

 

[Grinner]

Blaming Labour for the

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This is important stuff for many people. They don't look at numbers or policy, but something like "even his own brother wont work with him or back his vision" is powerful stuff. It'll play for days and get in the heads of voters

Not for a thinking person. His brother is known as a remainer and someone who seeks co-operation. Didn't he leave the May govt. too?

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

If he's refusing to ask for an extension from the EU then surely he has to resign?

 

[owlo]

Not for a thinking person. His brother is known as a remainer and someone who seeks co-operation. Didn't he leave the May govt. too?

Yep, in protest to no deal I think. If the majority of the electorate were thinking people, we wouldn't be in this mess. I for one welcome a nudge in the anti BJ direction for them.

 

[ha_rooney]

This is the gibberish that his supporters love so much

 

[Smores]

I thought that was just going to be about the outrage he's electioneering in front of rows of police like a dictator....yet it was so so much worse

 

[Guy Incognito]

Police Academy references.

He's been craving for this job for years and now he's got it and well, he is cracking up.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

This has me fuming.

Shes part of the problem.