or maybe I hit a nerve. I still can't understand why a former colony and a small island like Malta is obliged to keep so many refugee seekers when it doesn't enjoy the benefits of war mongering done by Northern countries. Under the current rules all immigrants have to apply in their first port of call. That means that if 100,000 immigrants left Libya today and came to Malta we're obliged to keep them here and make sure they don't go North. It almost tragic because when the US, France, England and co bombed Libya (something both Italy and ourselves begged you not to do because we knew the region and knew the disaster you would leave if you do that) all we got was a thank you note for sheltering your expats and a good luck for the future. Once immigrants started flowing in, France threatened to close the borders with Italy and England made it bloody obvious that its not their concern. Surely they do acknowledge that whenever you make millions out of war (directly and indirectly) refugees will have to flee.
Luckily rules will soon change to a fairer situation were immigrants will be resettled according to one GDP and space. Guess who opt out of that?
no you havn't hit a nerve at all, like i said in the last post before and a few post i find it despicable lots of the stuff our country has done and is doing! i dam well don't think we should be bombing lybia! its terrible that Malta has to pick up the tab for that, and yeah its wrong counties nearer the troubled area have to deal with the refugee problem when it isnt there fault there country happens to be near by!
i'd like to say that their should be an international law that if you bomb countries then you have to take in refugee's from that country, but that in fairness causes massive security problems, but there does need to be some kind of legal obligation to helping country's you have bombed, not only cleaning up the mess but supporting the innocent population while the war/conflict/bombing/act of disgusting terrorism goes on.
but then again you can't blame the people of the uk for whats happening, i havn't met anyone who thinks we should bomb lybia, i personally traveled down to london to go marches agaisnt the Iraq war, and millions of people across the county protested. again this is the government causing the problem not the people, you can't even argue we should vote for the other side as labour and conservative over the past century have been as bad as each other.
but over all i stand by my original statement, we get well of topic, and i still think people have the right to worry or not worry about legal immigration based on their situation and the facts as they seem them, not what the country has done in the past and not what some rich arseholes are doing in our name now.
If jobs are so scarce there then why they do not move elsewhere? Why not move to London or go study? London is so full of opportunities and the experience you get there you won't get it anywhere. Some jobs are also scarce and provide a quick route to promotions thats actually stupid not to go into them. I kick myself for not going into the health when I could.
people do move else where, me for example, where i grew up thier was no jobs and so i went away to study and after uni moved down south to live near brighton. where thier are more jobs.... not many but more then up north.
but not everyone can do this, nor would the country want them to if everyone struggling for work suddenly moved to london, london wouldn't be able to cope.
I think that Britain's biggest plague is its generous handouts. It not only attract an immigrant minority who
i don't think it nessicarly hand outs that the problem, the welfare state is theroy is a great thing, but like most things in practise it becoming tricky.
i worked for a housing association for a year or so a few years back, and thier are millions of people out thier who need help and deserve it, but making sure the right people get the help is a nightmare, you have problems with the system itself, people abusing the system, the workers in the system..... honestly its pretty heart breaking, im not asahmed to say that more then once i came of the phone crying when you hear what some people are going through.
plus you say generous hand outs, and yes i agree that at times it pays more not to work, but that has alot do with simply the appaling contracts that companys are offering.
over all i think the welfare state is an amazing thing, it helped my mum keep a roof above my head when my dad left and was working two jobs that still paid so little she could hardly feed us. yes its got floors but what system hasn't!
That's something the EU has nothing to do with. Its up to the government to create jobs. The EU does help by giving up money for disadvantaged areas. I wonder what will happen now once the EU pulls out and these areas will be left to the Tory's mercy.
lol i wasnt saying the north having less jobs has anything to do with the EU, i just got of topic and was making conversation sorry.
but i agree with you on your point about the torys!
Once again that is up to the government to tackle. In Malta precarious work is being tackled by blacklisting such companies from ever applying for tenders with the government. Its not the solution but its a start. In Britain companies are allowed to issue vacancies in a foreign language which got me fuming (I wasn't interested in that job and I spoke that language). Its up to the government to stop that. TBF with the world getting globalized and the arrival of automation, low skilled workers were always going to get the shorter end of the stick. This thing occurs not only in the EU but elsewhere. Hence why its up to the government to help people in improving themselves and its up to the people to actually want that. Tiny Malta give all its people free tertiary education and they assist them further by giving them some pocket money. Surely Britain can do the same
i agree with you the government can do more to help the population with regulations, but like i said in my last post it isnt that straight forward a government can only do so much, if you have a problem where you have more workers then jobs, then you have a problem.
You cant expect to have full unrestricted access to the single market and not accept these customers in your home. Its like saying we want your money and your rights but don't dare entering my shop you filthy thing. It doesn't work like that. There again, when you consider what happened with the asylum seekers then you cant blame countries like the UK and the USA to think that they can get with almost anything.
im not sure increase agree with you analogy, where actually saying we ant to buy things off you and sell you things with out having a mark tarriffs on them because we live in different countries.
but that isn't the philosophy of the EU the philosophy is free movement and free trade and they don't allow one without the offer, and if we lose free trade it damages the UK economy.
for the record here i would like to point i didn't vote in the referendum, because neither side in anyway answered my worryes, remain point blankly ignored the fact high immigration is having a negative affect on many house holds in the uk, and leave had no ideas how to deal with the loss of free trade. so i didn't vote as both sides where just sticking their fingers in their ears and ignoring problems they didn't have answers for.
I think that the NHS should return to its roots, ie curing people. Its became more of a 5 star hotel service with people calling you sir/ms but ultimately its so bureaucratic that it take you ages to actually get cured. In Malta you brace yourself for an entire day in the waiting room. However at the end of the day you will meet a doctor, a consultant, get the CT scans and MRI you need and you return home with a cure.
i agree with you on alot of points, i think alot of people expect too much from the nhs.
but to be honest it gets on my nervous that so many people criticises it, we have free health care in this country thats 'F'ing incredible mostly i think people shut the feck up and celebrate that and stop abusing it and demanding it be perfect.
That's the thing you are better then this. You won 2 world wars, you were among the first in Europe to open to globalization (ok that didn't ended very well but oh well) and embrace human rights. When everyone was shitting their pants about Hitler you were among the first to fight him and we were there surrounded by enemies (Italy axis, Libya axis, fecking all the Med sea was axis). You reform Europe not flee away from it
well if you look back at history, we where shitting our pants thats why Chamberlin waved the pointless piece of paper while hitler steamer rolled the czech republic.
as for two world wars..... the first world war was a disgrace, it was about small border disputes, sailing rights, and ancient treaties and it cost millions and millions of people their lifes and caused many issues that lead to the second world, so im not sure i count that as a glorious moment in our or any or Europes past!
but despite saything i still think we deserve better politicans, people in it to help people rather then helping themselves, but i havn't heard anyone anywhere say how that happens :S
) but its not about who they are people are worried point blank that thier isnt enough jobs in the country for them and having such high numbers of immigrants every year, not only increases the competition for job, but reduces the standard of contracts available.