Brexited | the worst threads live the longest

Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


  • Total voters
    194
  • Poll closed .
So the actual month along push for winning the leadership election just passed everyone by?

The idea she has a chance of being PM is laughable. You prove my point for me you don't know her name.... Instantly forgettable.

I didn’t say she would be the new PM. But a large Lib Dem gain would put the nail in the coffin of any hard right government. The Libs certainly aren’t going into coalition with the Tories again after the last debacle, so unless Labour are completely obliterated (which is hugely unlikely) we’d be in Lab-Lib coalition territory.
 
I didn’t say she would be the new PM. But a large Lib Dem gain would put the nail in the coffin of any hard right government. The Libs certainly aren’t going into coalition with the Tories again after the last debacle, so unless Labour are completely obliterated (which is hugely unlikely) we’d be in Lab-Lib coalition territory.
Swinson has already ruled this out.
 
Swinson has already ruled this out.

Realistically that doesn’t mean anything. If it’s a hung parliament and them refusing coalition was going to hand power to a hard right government coalition, then they might be left with no real choice. Especially if coalition meant they could force another referendum.

Although the last coalition hurt them badly, being the main remain party and then passing up their only opportunity for a new referendum would probably hurt them just as much.
 
Realistically that doesn’t mean anything. If it’s a hung parliament and them refusing coalition was going to hand power to a hard right government coalition, then they might be left with no real choice. Especially if coalition meant they could force another referendum.

Although the last coalition hurt them badly, being the main remain party and then passing up their only opportunity for a new referendum would probably hurt them just as much.
It's possibly but I never underestimate the liberal dislike of socialists but more importantly I never underestimate the sheer incompetence of the lib dem party. The fact what you've said makes sense gives me all the more reason to think the lib dems will do the opposite.

Plus I'm not that sure the lib dems will do that great if there's another general in the near future. Mostly because their whole shtick is Brexit and its very hard to get the focus on one topic for a whole general election. Labour could easily back another referendum and it would kill of the lib dem threat(Also Swinson voting record not only makes her easy to attack but she is pretty much a liberal tory, which in fairness is could really hurt the tories).
 
Genuinely looking like no deal now. Incredible how it has come to this. I work in the NHS and it's going to be an utter disaster.
 
This is bullshit.
The former PM couldn't even get a consensus within her own party. We are not here because people have been blocking brexit. We are here beacuse the people that accept Brexit cannot agree on what type of Brexit they want.
"We just need to leave, just get on wif it. We got the 5th largest economy in the world so countries will be queuing up to make deals wif us. We just need to hurry up and leave." Said financial and political expert Dave, a bricklayer from Lambeth.
 
"We just need to leave, just get on wif it. We got the 5th largest economy in the world so countries will be queuing up to make deals wif us. We just need to hurry up and leave." Said financial and political expert Dave, a bricklayer from Lambeth.

Dave better shut his gob... we have had enough of experts... which is I presume why we now have Pob planning for a no deal
 

Dave better shut his gob... we have had enough of experts... which is I presume why we now have Pob planning for a no deal

Ah Gove, the man single handedly trying to make the lower classes dumber.
 
Parliament will block no deal. Johnson is prepping for an election, not for no deal. We’ll get another extension.

Not sure whether the EU are so ready to give us more time. Macron was against it last time and numerous others now believe he was correct given how the U.K. totally wasted the time they were given.
 
Parliament will block no deal. Johnson is prepping for an election, not for no deal. We’ll get another extension.
Well firstly Johnson would have to ask for an extension, and that seems unlikely. And even if he did, for an election, Johnson looks like winning that election on a no deal manifesto, so why should the EU agree the extension in the first place?
 
Not sure whether the EU are so ready to give us more time. Macron was against it last time and numerous others now believe he was correct given how the U.K. totally wasted the time they were given.
Wasn’t there a leak that said that the new person in charge of negotiations for the EU was open to a further extension?
 


It really does seem less we want a No Deal and more can we just make Brexit end.


Which isn't going to happen given a no deal would still likely be followed by years of negotiations with the EU, with all the same problems that currently exist, except with the UK in a weaker position and a severely damaged relationship between both sides. One wonders how much of the 45% realise this.
 


It really does seem less we want a No Deal and more can we just make Brexit end.

People just want Brexit to be over, regardless of how that's achieved. A big part of that appears to be because they're bored of the current news cycle and want something different to read about. That kind of thinking is really dangerous and only compounds the stupidity of it all.
 
So is the plan to crash out of Europe, lose an election to Labour who then fail miserably to pick up the pieces thus allowing the Tories another long period of government in which to really feck with poor people, destroy the NHS and enrich themselves?

Because that's how the repubs tend to operate here in the US.
There are certainly growing similarities
 
People just want Brexit to be over, regardless of how that's achieved. A big part of that appears to be because they're bored of the current news cycle and want something different to read about. That kind of thinking is really dangerous and only compounds the stupidity of it all.
Yep this was pretty much going to be my reply to sully post

Which isn't going to happen given a no deal would still likely be followed by years of negotiations with the EU, with all the same problems that currently exist, except with the UK in a weaker position and a severely damaged relationship between both sides. One wonders how much of the 45% realise this.
 
People just want Brexit to be over, regardless of how that's achieved. A big part of that appears to be because they're bored of the current news cycle and want something different to read about. That kind of thinking is really dangerous and only compounds the stupidity of it all.
24 hours news channels and social media gives us a constantly moving conveyor belt of news. Combine that with MPs debating for weeks about Brexit, then be unable to find a resolution and then vote down ALL options, you get a Parliament in 'paralysis' over Brexit, with a media constantly having to report on little to no progress, resulting in Brexit fatigue or Brexit burnout.
It has been 3 years since the referendum and what progress has been made..
 
24 hours news channels and social media gives us a constantly moving conveyor belt of news. Combine that with MPs debating for weeks about Brexit, then be unable to find a resolution and then vote down ALL options, you get a Parliament in 'paralysis' over Brexit, with a media constantly having to report on little to no progress, resulting in Brexit fatigue or Brexit burnout.
It has been 3 years since the referendum and what progress has been made..

Only real change I can think of, is that we've gone from 'of course we can remain part of the single market, german industry will demand it', to 'feck business' and 'leave on 31st do or die'.

All our current 'PM'. :rolleyes:
 
Which isn't going to happen given a no deal would still likely be followed by years of negotiations with the EU, with all the same problems that currently exist, except with the UK in a weaker position and a severely damaged relationship between both sides. One wonders how much of the 45% realise this.

Exactly. Probably very few.
 
Britain's on a downward spiralling trajectory and they may very well bring the global economy along for the ride.
 
Raab out in full force this morning it seems. The man is yet to learn a single thing during this whole ordeal. A complete conman and fraud.
 
Which isn't going to happen given a no deal would still likely be followed by years of negotiations with the EU, with all the same problems that currently exist, except with the UK in a weaker position and a severely damaged relationship between both sides. One wonders how much of the 45% realise this.

I haven't followed this closely but wouldn't 'no deal' essentially mean that any transactions with other EU countries would become very difficult for UK based companies? What duties and taxes would they apply, and what regulations would even be used - would they have to be separately negotiated with each EU member?
 
Raab out in full force this morning it seems. The man is yet to learn a single thing during this whole ordeal. A complete conman and fraud.

Yes I’ve just read that they are looking “very carefully” at imposing direct rule again in NI. They should tread very very carefully unless they want to really return to the 80s
 
I haven't followed this closely but wouldn't 'no deal' essentially mean that any transactions with other EU countries would become very difficult for UK based companies? What duties and taxes would they apply, and what regulations would even be used - would they have to be separately negotiated with each EU member?

They have to deal with the whole of the EU as one - life is so much easier when everyone has the same regulations. With no agreement it's WTO rules. If the UK leave with no deal they will have no agreements with anyone , not just the EU.
 
Just saw the pound, €1.098/£1 and $1.223/£1.

Johnson's started well.

I’m going to New York for 8 days in 5 weeks. Got accommodation booked and ready to pay for but keep putting it off saying “it’s hit the bottom so no harm waiting”...