that's what May could do, then once an election comes around, the Conservative can turn around and say 'don't vote for Labour and commie Corbyn because he didn't vote for May's deal'we're gonna crash out and the entire country is going to blame Corbyn and Labour
Not paid attention for last few days - any significant progress?
I am no longer a member of the Conservative Party. So I can be blunt where previously I might have been discreet. The PM’s head of communications Robbie Gibb is a hard Brexiter who wants to destroy the PM’s new search for a cross party compromise.
Nick Boles:
like one of those Russian field marshals in Tolstoy’s War and Peace, who wins by sitting on his horse and doing nothing, Corbyn’s generalship has, for now, caused the enemy to break and panic.
Once Tory ministers posed in the power stance. Soon they will find out what the no-power stance feels like.
Dont be silly Paul. You know thats not the case just by reading this thread.I get the impression that the only thing that matters in the UK is Tories vs Labour. Nothing else matters as long as your pet politician is not criticised.
Oh? How so? Explain please how someone outside the eu has no right to work in the eu.I think there also needs to be an understanding it's not only stopping people coming to the UK... It's also taking away everybody right to live and work in Europe as well.
On the Tory deal, they haven't said that's applicable to all deals.literally whipped for peoples vote two weeks in a row
that was the confirmatory ref vote not the peoples vote amendment which was a blanket second refOn the Tory deal, they haven't said that's applicable to all deals.
My point is I regularly work in Holland Italy France Norway Spain and Germany... And probably Poland soon as well.Oh? How so? Explain please how someone outside the eu has no right to work in the eu.
Pretty sure Guy's out of the job in the next session of the EU.GH just wants Britain out so he can build a federal European state. The EU won't be dismantled by BoJo.
Ok you haven't explained your incorrect previous statement.My point is I regularly work in Holland Italy France Norway Spain and Germany... And probably Poland soon as well.
I'm lucky as whatever paperwork and cost there is to continue to do this my company will pick up... My son... Well hes had the automatic right to work and live in any of these countries traded to "stop immigruntz" etc... I just think people only really talk about immigration in terms of stopping Johnny foreigner and not the trade off for that which is the reduction in opportunities throughout Europe for UK citizens and especially in my opinion the next generation.
That said my son's fluent in Chinese so he will probably be ok by the time he grows up
Which votes were these? The only thing approaching a people's vote amendment that I can recall was the one they whipped to abstain on.that was the confirmatory ref vote not the peoples vote amendment which was a blanket second ref
that was the confirmatory ref vote not the peoples vote amendment which was a blanket second ref
Ok you haven't explained your incorrect previous statement.
Labour abstained on the doomed TIG vote pre-preference votes because it was daft and the peoples vote organizers said as much. They whipped for Becket both times.Which votes were these? The only thing approaching a people's vote amendment that I can recall was the one they whipped to abstain on.
(Genuine Q, entirely possible I've missed something with the multiplicity of amendments these days)
that's what's happened consistentlyFor me if he agrees to taking it off the table in a next round of indicative transferable votes then he's done. He should insist it remains and whip for it.
Yup this is true, though still wouldn't have held sway if the government changed, and given I just watched Andy McDonald refuse to confirm that they wanted one for any deal I remain confused.Even the confirmatory vote was on any deal agreed by the house. It was whipped upon.
For me if he agrees to taking it off the table in a next round of indicative transferable votes then he's done. He should insist it remains and whip for it.
If he gets a Labour style deal offered flat out then he'd have to take it but that's not going not happen anyway. Just posturing