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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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we're gonna crash out and the entire country is going to blame Corbyn and Labour :lol:
 
we're gonna crash out and the entire country is going to blame Corbyn and Labour :lol:
that's what May could do, then once an election comes around, the Conservative can turn around and say 'don't vote for Labour and commie Corbyn because he didn't vote for May's deal'
 
Not paid attention for last few days - any significant progress?

The PM and Corbyn are holding a series of meetings to see whether they can come to an agreement about a way forward vis-à-vis the Withdrawal Agreement.

The swivel-eyed loons and ERG-types on the right of the Tory Party are furious that May is legitimising a "Marxist who wants to destroy the country" (they know that one of them will be standing against him in a General Election pretty soon and so hate the idea that the PM is giving him an opportunity to look statesmen-like).

Meanwhile, Parliament have decided that they don't want to give themselves the opportunity to make any more decisions about anything, and so have voted against having any more indicative votes.

The general feeling seems to be that 'no deal' is now the inevitable outcome and that all anyone in Parliament is really worried about at this point is ensuring that someone else gets the blame when we spiral in to chaos and ruin at the end of next week.
 
I'm sure no one else is watching as not much happening but Bill Cash is having a right strop calling Letwin an idiot, the bill rubbish. Said to another MP that he was too incompetent to understand what he's saying.

Proper play ground stuff :lol:

I'm shocked the tories have got away with so much today. Seems Bill Cash is now trying to fillibuster effectively
 
Pretty sorry exchange right now.

Cash: "We have to give democratic legitimacy to this bill by requiring consent from the devolved assemblies"

Lab MP: When do you think Stormont will next sit?

Cash: "After exit date, ho ho ho, that's the point."

Scots Nat MP: How come you suddenly now give a damn about the opinion of devolved institutions when throughout this entire process you've ridden roughshod over them?

Cash: "Because I want to cause trouble."​

What a tosser this Cash bloke is.
 
Nick Boles:
I am no longer a member of the Conservative Party. So I can be blunt where previously I might have been discreet. The PM’s head of communications Robbie Gibb is a hard Brexiter who wants to destroy the PM’s new search for a cross party compromise.
 
Nick Boles:

That's typically the kind of things that he should have said a lot earlier when the UK had a lot of time to seriously fix its internal problems. That's why I hate politicians.
 
like one of those Russian field marshals in Tolstoy’s War and Peace, who wins by sitting on his horse and doing nothing, Corbyn’s generalship has, for now, caused the enemy to break and panic.

Once Tory ministers posed in the power stance. Soon they will find out what the no-power stance feels like.
 
Oh? How so? Explain please how someone outside the eu has no right to work in the eu.
My point is I regularly work in Holland Italy France Norway Spain and Germany... And probably Poland soon as well.
I'm lucky as whatever paperwork and cost there is to continue to do this my company will pick up... My son... Well hes had the automatic right to work and live in any of these countries traded to "stop immigruntz" etc... I just think people only really talk about immigration in terms of stopping Johnny foreigner and not the trade off for that which is the reduction in opportunities throughout Europe for UK citizens and especially in my opinion the next generation.

That said my son's fluent in Chinese so he will probably be ok by the time he grows up
 
My point is I regularly work in Holland Italy France Norway Spain and Germany... And probably Poland soon as well.
I'm lucky as whatever paperwork and cost there is to continue to do this my company will pick up... My son... Well hes had the automatic right to work and live in any of these countries traded to "stop immigruntz" etc... I just think people only really talk about immigration in terms of stopping Johnny foreigner and not the trade off for that which is the reduction in opportunities throughout Europe for UK citizens and especially in my opinion the next generation.

That said my son's fluent in Chinese so he will probably be ok by the time he grows up
Ok you haven't explained your incorrect previous statement.
 
that was the confirmatory ref vote not the peoples vote amendment which was a blanket second ref
Which votes were these? The only thing approaching a people's vote amendment that I can recall was the one they whipped to abstain on.

(Genuine Q, entirely possible I've missed something with the multiplicity of amendments these days)
 
that was the confirmatory ref vote not the peoples vote amendment which was a blanket second ref

Even the confirmatory vote was on any deal agreed by the house. It was whipped upon.

For me if he agrees to taking it off the table in a next round of indicative transferable votes then he's done. He should insist it remains and whip for it.

If he gets a Labour style deal offered flat out then he'd have to take it but that's not going not happen anyway. Just posturing
 
Ok you haven't explained your incorrect previous statement.

I assume that it depends on countries but you have no right to work in France until you have a carte de séjour salarié/travailleur or a resident card. EU citizens don't need it and simply have the right to work.
 
Which votes were these? The only thing approaching a people's vote amendment that I can recall was the one they whipped to abstain on.

(Genuine Q, entirely possible I've missed something with the multiplicity of amendments these days)
Labour abstained on the doomed TIG vote pre-preference votes because it was daft and the peoples vote organizers said as much. They whipped for Becket both times.

I thought that was on the docket for the preference votes but it wasn't (thanks to losing in parliament before the preference votes)
For me if he agrees to taking it off the table in a next round of indicative transferable votes then he's done. He should insist it remains and whip for it.
that's what's happened consistently
 
Even the confirmatory vote was on any deal agreed by the house. It was whipped upon.

For me if he agrees to taking it off the table in a next round of indicative transferable votes then he's done. He should insist it remains and whip for it.

If he gets a Labour style deal offered flat out then he'd have to take it but that's not going not happen anyway. Just posturing
Yup this is true, though still wouldn't have held sway if the government changed, and given I just watched Andy McDonald refuse to confirm that they wanted one for any deal I remain confused.
 
Third reading of Cooper's motion passed by 1 vote (313 vs 312).

Red-faced twat Mark Francois immediately up on his feet calling it "a constitutional outrage".
 
I still don't know what's going on but this sounds like good news. I genuinely remain clueless at this entire situation.