I don't think so. I think the next GE will result in another hung parliament, especially if the next GE turns into a Brexit election
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In any referendum which is about changing the status quo, people who feel strongly about the proposed change will always vote. People who are satisfied with the status quo and/or aren't interested in the change are far more likely not to vote.
In this case, I think most people thought that remain would win comfortably, which meant that even more folk didn't bother voting.
I've said it before on here, but in 1997 when the Welsh Assembly referendum was held, just over a quarter of those eligible to vote actually voted for the change. Slightly fewer people voted against and very nearly half didn't bother voting.
I agree that there should be a Welsh Assembly 559,419 (50.30%)
I do not agree that there should be a Welsh Assembly 552,698 (49.70%)
Valid votes 1,112,117 (99.64%)
Invalid or blank votes 3,999 (0.36%)
Total votes 1,116,116 (100.00%)
Registered voters and turnout 2,222,533 (50.22%)
The margins were so slim - but that's what can happen in referendums.
Something broke off from my reading glasses, so I propped them up with folded tissue...then I lit a cigarette. It was great fun, fanning the flames in panic, and now I've a blister on the tip of my nose. Hands off, ladies!
What do you mean with a shake up? Do you mean a dictatorship or that what people vote for in an election can be overruled by MPs because they disagree with what the nation decided. We held a democratic vote (and yes we're in a messed up situation no doubt but no matter how I voted, we are in a democracy) and that result needs to be followed through. It's very simple as otherwise what's the point of voting and leave 500odd MPs to rule the country when in my eyes there are much better people out there to run a country if that's how we're doing it. At no circumstance should X no. of MPs decide the democratic vote means f-all and take matters into their own hand.
I mean that a party like UKIP might end up getting much higher numbers than they normally would, with the Tories taking the biggest hit.
It proves what the packet says. Smoking can damage your health.
The department of Health took it a little bit too far this time.
Correct. There are pissed off supporters of both major parties and I am one of them.
The big problem though is the lack of an effective alternative. Unless TIG can develop into a political entity Tory voters are unlikely to switch to Labour and visa versa.
If come April 11 there's no solution and the options are no deal or revoke A50, the right thing to do is to revoke A50, just because the people voted to fall off a cliff, doesn't mean you should enable them.
If someone wanted to commit suicide, you don't say, I'll buy you some coal.
Nobody had to stop you trying to pour petrol on it though Steve...
Seems MP's are proposing more unicorns, the confirmatory public votes seems halfway sensible but I hope the other propositions are much more sensible than a new customs union and Malthouse Compromise.
The point of indicative votes was to find a way forward not bring up failed options. Unless they are going to accept a long extension which is the only way to achieve something like a new customs unions.
The point of indicative votes was to find a way forward not bring up failed options. Unless they are going to accept a long extension which is the only way to achieve something like a new customs unions.
Yeah when I read your post that clip jumped into my head.That's actually what I had in mind, I have never seen the show though.
It was one of my favourite comedy shows. The last couple of seasons were not so good though.
Surely people can’t still vote Tories after this. At least labour are somewhat less self serving and evil, even if they are about as incompetent.You reckon? Think you underestimate the electorate.
You wait.
Hopefully. Split the cnuts vote and let the half sensible parties sort the thing out.
"An exit which benefits everyone" ugh, has a scenario ever been even proposed where that statement can possibly come true?
A lot less will, but less will vote for labour too so I can imagine Tories still holding the majority.
No deal should never ever be an option. It violates an internation peace treaty ffs. If they wanted to do it right, a vote should be held between revoke A50 or pass May’s deal, this is the only way to respect the result of the referendum and give people a clear idea of what they are voting for.
Fair enough, doesn't mean we shouldn't support revoke A50 though.
Looks like tomorrow's votes will be for which unicorn do you want.
EU shakes head in despair.
EU shakes head in despair.
Yesterday I thought May was a bitch for saying might ignore the indicative votes but now I'm slightly sympathetic. I think Bercow will whittle down the list so hopefully we are at least left with decent alternatives but the only one I've seen is a confirmatory vote.
Let's have thousands of unicorns lined up across the Mexican Irish border.
And the Irish will pay for the unicorns
Of those I've seen so far, there aren't any realistic alternatives.
They don't send their best people. Coming up here with their accents, stealing our women.
It absolutely would undermine democracy. A second vote is the only option.
It's cute people thought this would've made a difference anyway.
Signed by people from all over the world and has the ability for one person to sign it numerous times over.
I think I actually hate her.Headmistress has spoken.
Yeah that petition is a load of shite to be honest, but coupled with the huge demonstrations in London it shows that obviously there is a large remain voice in the country that can’t be ignored.
It will be interesting to see how many votes this one gets.
Would it though? Perhaps clearly explaining that the referendum was in fact, advisory, and not a binding vote would go a long way, because it's something that is often ignored and rarely mentioned by the media when discussing Brexit, and doesn't appear to be common knowledge.
The fact that we had an advisory referendum, won by a narrow majority, following a campaign fraught with with illegal funding and outright lies, and that near three years on, we have no clear direction or course of action to actually carry out the result, would suggest to me that there is certainly at least some merit to revoking Article 50.
They could even caveat it with a promise to revisit the result in x number of years, after carrying out proper impact assessments, and detailing actual exit strategies that ensure the country is better off outside of the EU, as should be the case for us to leave.
This "leave at all costs" mentality is absolutely insane, and no government should be pandering so obviously to a group of vocal morons who want something to happen despite the seemingly obvious wide-spread, damaging consequences it will have.
EDIT: Also, any undermining of the democratic process that could have happened has already happened when a) Vote Leave was won through illegal funding and blatant lies, b) a snap election was called to consolidate power for the current PM, but actually only kept her in a job courtesy of a £1 billion bribe slung at a bunch of mercenary, god-bothering lunatics from Northern Ireland and c) the current PM is attempting to table a deal that has already been voted down heavily on two occasions already, without making any changes.
I thought this had been debunked.