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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Because by instilling someone they trust (and May lost that some time ago) they can shape the future relationship to be more palatable in the next stage. This is only the start remember....

Someone who trusts? The EU or the Tories?

If the Tories, which faction? Hopefully not the handful of loudmouth Brexiteers.
 
Someone who trusts? The EU or the Tories?

If the Tories, which faction? Hopefully not the handful of loudmouth Brexiteers.

Yes the Tories and yes the brexiteers. They believe they can amend the relationship aspect once we've passed the WA, which tbf is partially true.

However they'll still face the issue of parliament
 
It's just occurred to me that May has organised her speech to the 1922 comittee tomorrow in the middle of the time allotted for indicative votes.

Is she trying to organise a mass abstention to delegitimise proceedings? If she doesn't turn up in person how can she claim to be listening
 
Its funny to see ERG chumps slowly realising they may have overplayed their hand. Voting down Mays deal repeatedly seems to be pushing Parliament (slowly) towards a softer brexit.
 
It's just occurred to me that May has organised her speech to the 1922 comittee tomorrow in the middle of the time allotted for indicative votes.

Is she trying to organise a mass abstention to delegitimise proceedings? If she doesn't turn up in person how can she claim to be listening

She really is taking the piss now.
 
It's just occurred to me that May has organised her speech to the 1922 comittee tomorrow in the middle of the time allotted for indicative votes.

Is she trying to organise a mass abstention to delegitimise proceedings? If she doesn't turn up in person how can she claim to be listening

That would be showing a level of contempt I thought even she couldn't sink too. Then again, I heard a Belgian minister today say that she lacked some basic human qualities, or words to that effect.
 
Why don't they go feck themselves :mad:

Petition: Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.


The government repeatedly claims exiting the EU is 'the will of the people'. We need to put a stop to this claim by proving the strength of public support now, for remaining in the EU. A People's Vote may not happen - so vote now.

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This Government will not revoke Article 50. We will honour the result of the 2016 referendum and work with Parliament to deliver a deal that ensures we leave the European Union.

It remains the Government’s firm policy not to revoke Article 50. We will honour the outcome of the 2016 referendum and work to deliver an exit which benefits everyone, whether they voted to Leave or to Remain.

Revoking Article 50, and thereby remaining in the European Union, would undermine both our democracy and the trust that millions of voters have placed in Government.

The Government acknowledges the considerable number of people who have signed this petition. However, close to three quarters of the electorate took part in the 2016 referendum, trusting that the result would be respected. This Government wrote to every household prior to the referendum, promising that the outcome of the referendum would be implemented. 17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed at UK Government.

British people cast their votes once again in the 2017 General Election where over 80% of those who voted, voted for parties, including the Opposition, who committed in their manifestos to upholding the result of the referendum.

This Government stands by this commitment.

Revoking Article 50 would break the promises made by Government to the British people, disrespect the clear instruction from a democratic vote, and in turn, reduce confidence in our democracy. As the Prime Minister has said, failing to deliver Brexit would cause “potentially irreparable damage to public trust”, and it is imperative that people can trust their Government to respect their votes and deliver the best outcome for them.

Department for Exiting the European Union.
 
The Americans have a chance to correct their mistake in 2020, yet the UK have to go through with Brexit regardless of the consequences? :wenger:

Maybe it’s possible to have a referendum to join thr EU 1min after Brexit is implemented?

May will have implemented the ‘will of the people’ twice in 1 minute.
 
That Government response is disgusting.

I really think they should get rid of those government petitions, they're a complete joke. 5.75M people sign a petition and they literally don't care. 1M people march in London and it isn't even acknowledged. I'm beginning to think that people should actually riot over this.
 
That Government response is disgusting.

I really think they should get rid of those government petitions, they're a complete joke. 5.75M people sign a petition and they literally don't care. 1M people march in London and it isn't even acknowledged. I'm beginning to think that people should actually riot over this.
Don't be silly there was no way even half a million showed up.
 
Or lets ignore the 17m plus that voted for Brexit...

Barron made a claim regarding "the people", the petition simply indicates that "the people" are not of one mind and any assertion that a particular opinion or other represents "the people" is rhetorical overreach.
 
Let’s ignored those who voted for remain. They shall never have a say ever again
Yeah thats what I said... My point is that just revoking article 50 is a completely bonkers idea which goes against the result of a democratic referendum. A second referendum with a choice between May’s deal (if the people are well informed of the details) and revoking article 50 would be the only democratic way to respect “the will of the people”, to see if that will is still to leave, or whether it is now to remain when the nature of what leave actually means is clear.
 
Revoking article 50 is never going to happen, it's much more likely for a second referendum where MPs can hide behind it being the people's choice instead of taking the flack themselves.
 
Most of them haven't got the slightest clue of what will happen in the event of a no deal Brexit, and that includes parliament.

That’s ok. Most of them can crack on and vote to be the main event at Christmas. We only need around 2% of them to have changed their mind and another 3% to be unsure about Brexit and stay at home to flip the result.
 
You reckon? Think you underestimate the electorate. :lol:
I genuinely think there's going to be a shake up. There's some pissed off Tory voters out there who will do something drastic at the next election in response to what's happened with Brexit.
 
I've been criticising May's incompetence, but earlier I set fire to my own nose. Sadly, I'm not joking.
 
Hillarious to see JRG and Boris come under fire from the same people they've spent years riling up.
 
I genuinely think there's going to be a shake up. There's some pissed off Tory voters out there who will do something drastic at the next election in response to what's happened with Brexit.

Well unless something drastic happens like FPTP being changed, it'll probably be nothing more than another coalition in the end.
 
Still more than voted to remain and as for people who didn’t bother voting? Why the hell didn’t they?

Heavy rain caused delays at Waterloo - genuine reason from someone I know. It’s the pitfalls of having an election on a work day.

Obviously this is a purely anecdotal point.