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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?

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Klopper76 said:
Who would’ve guessed that the BBC would go for this angle.

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The “angle” they go for is a resounding ‘no’ to the question in the article title.

You (and a load of other people on Twitter) seem to be making the classic mistake of forming an opinion on a shared article after reading the title, then not bothering to read the main text.
 
The problem with a GE is it will be fought on a single issue and both the parties are split on that issue. So it is not at all clear who people are supposed to vote for to express their opinion on this issue that the GE has been called to settle.

A GE is unlikely to resolve the problem. Even if it delivers a clear majority one way or the other it will be far from clear that the majority equates to a mandate for a particular course of action.
 
711 said:
Yeah, I would have gone for Deal Passed, but the extension possibilities might have scuppered that. I'd go for a Long Extension but could be either for a GE or a Referendum.

Bad news for Corbyn, how long can he continue to disguise his position before even his own supporters cotton on?
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They have to have a leader they can manipulate to disguise the fact that they are nothing to do with Labour and he is just a front.
 
And by the way, I predict Corbyn will do everything in his power to avoid even discussing Brexit in any campaign. He'll talk about "the things that the British public really care about, schools and the NHS," and avoid committing himself to anything.
 
Adebesi said:
Do people say things like this in AA meetings?

"Jesus Christ mate, we know you have been sober for 6 months, you told us that 2 weeks ago. Unless youve fallen off the wagon and beaten your wife, or something else interesting has happened to you, sit the fck down and let someone else speak."

I think this thread should be seen as a safe space for Remainers to let off steam. It may be a bit repetitive at times but given the amount of action we get in here every day I dont think most people really mind. In fact, maybe having something predictable and constant, like Paul's posts, is exactly what we need in these turbulent and unpredictable times.
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I think the fact that the first metaphor that springs to mind is one of addiction raises more questions than it answers, personally. It probably is apt too. In any case we can all agree there's more important things to be discussing on this particular topic so I'll drop it!
 
Brwned said:
I think the fact that the first metaphor that springs to mind is one of addiction raises more questions than it answers, personally. It probably is apt too. In any case we can all agree there's more important things to be discussing on this particular topic so I'll drop it!
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It felt like the appropriate - no, the only appropriate analogy to use.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The “angle” they go for is a resounding ‘no’ to the question in the article title.

You (and a load of other people on Twitter) seem to be making the classic mistake of forming an opinion on a shared article after reading the title, then not bothering to read the main text.
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Which is exactly their desired affect. Spread the lie via the headline (which will have a lot more exposure than the article) then point to the article as a defence.
 
Devil_forever said:
A lot of those options if parliament votes for them is how you guarantee the establishment of populism and the far right.
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sun_tzu said:
my gut feel is she calls for an election straight after her vote goes down... it does not give the time for the conservatives to get a new leader in place - does not really give time for TIG or Brexit party to effectively get people and campaign... turns it into pretty much a defacto referendum leave (conservatives) vs remain (SNP, libs, Greens, Labour (probably?))... and if the remain vote is split they can win that fight - even with May in charge (shes as much a liability as corbyn is for labour)... no idea how labour would hold up through the manifesto process but I suspect it would be at least as difficult for them as it is for the conservatives if not more so
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The house has to vote for a General Election doesn't it? She can call it but it has to be passed by the HoC?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The “angle” they go for is a resounding ‘no’ to the question in the article title.

You (and a load of other people on Twitter) seem to be making the classic mistake of forming an opinion on a shared article after reading the title, then not bothering to read the main text.
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That's what they're going for though with a headline like that. Even asking the question plants the idea in people's heads.
 
Klopper76 said:
Who would’ve guessed that the BBC would go for this angle.

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Thats a ridiculous headline.

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I understand your point pogue but its quite a misleading 'introduction' to the story. Even the byline suggest theres something to it
 
esmufc07 said:
The house has to vote for a General Election doesn't it? She can call it but it has to be passed by the HoC?
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yes and it requires 2/3 majority but pretty guaranteed all opposition MPS go for it and im sure most conservatives would if it was called as it would be a terrible look (plus probably followed by a confidence motion) if they didnt...

99.999999999% if she calls for it she gets an election
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The “angle” they go for is a resounding ‘no’ to the question in the article title.

You (and a load of other people on Twitter) seem to be making the classic mistake of forming an opinion on a shared article after reading the title, then not bothering to read the main text.
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Isn't there an old saying that anything below the headline is pointless? There's also one saying any headline ending with a question mark can be answered no.

BBC aren't leavers but their impartiality guidance makes them go 50/50 rather than weight the credibility or factor in the actual split in opinion
 
Adebesi said:
And by the way, I predict Corbyn will do everything in his power to avoid even discussing Brexit in any campaign. He'll talk about "the things that the British public really care about, schools and the NHS," and avoid committing himself to anything.
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he will get crucified in a debate... well perhaps not... he will probably walk off in a huff if chukka's there
 
Smores said:
Isn't there an old saying that anything below the headline is pointless? There's also one saying any headline ending with a question mark can be answered no.

BBC aren't leavers but their impartiality guidance makes them go 50/50 rather than weight the credibility or factor in the actual split in opinion
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Yeah, they’re caught between a rock and a hard place. The fact that you so often see Leaver and Remainers moaning about the BBC being biased against their agenda probably means they’re getting the whole impartiality thing about right.
 
Devil_forever said:
You’re not seriously suggesting that the BBC are supporting leave are you?
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BBC have been pro leave for a while now. They hide it better than others but they definitely ain’t as left Luvvies as they used to be.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yeah, they’re caught between a rock and a hard place. The fact that you so often see Leaver and Remainers moaning about the BBC being biased against their agenda probably means they’re getting the whole impartiality thing about right.
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I think they have been more pro leave and got the balance wrong either over compensating re: issue you described or there has been some power politics at play behind closed doors.
 
They could just be accurate. That headline and byline isn't in the slightest.
 
caid said:
Thats a ridiculous headline.

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I understand your point pogue but its quite a misleading 'introduction' to the story. Even the byline suggest theres something to it
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Assume you mean the bolded standfirst...sorry to be a pedant. Zoe is the byline.
 
Jippy said:
Assume you mean the bolded standfirst...sorry to be a pedant. Zoe is the byline.
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Yes sorry. I'm not an expert on journalism, whats your thoughts on it?
EDIT: I was talking more about the tweet, than the article itself. I suppose I'm wasting my breath expecting a tweet not to be a bullshit presentation of a story
 
caid said:
Yes sorry. I'm not an expert on journalism, whats your thoughts on it?
EDIT: I was talking more about the tweet, than the article itself. I suppose I'm wasting my breath expecting a tweet not to be a bullshit presentation of a story
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I think it's a lame article tbh. It starts off from a sensationalist angle of whether bots (potentially Russian, CIA, who knows) are distorting this democratice petition on an area of such great importance.

The article then quotes IT experts saying it's unlikely with security these days, so it really fizzles out into a clickbait story that flatters to deceive.

Almost like a reverse DM effort tbh.
 
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