Might get the w.a. through but will make the actual trade talks a lot tougher to manage... That said may probably won't be in power for that part of it so I'd guess she might throw government support behind this?
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Might get the w.a. through but will make the actual trade talks a lot tougher to manage... That said may probably won't be in power for that part of it so I'd guess she might throw government support behind this?
So, what do you think she would do if she didn't "have balls"? What was the "no-balls" option?
(Edit: In my opinion, what May is doing is the most cowardly choice of them all: basically she is doing nothing and she blames all others, the parliament, the EU... )
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I am hoping that they do Veto the extension, enough is enough for me.
Not call a vote on a deal that has been rejected twice already the week before leaving day with no extension on the table when you know perfectly well that no deal will spell catastrophe for the country.
That's the "no-balls" choice? That's nothing.
After two years of failed negotiations, the "huge balls" decision would be to cancel article 50, call for new elections, and retire ... since she was incapable of finding a solution. What she is doing all this time is what any coward would be doing.
Yeah, you're right. About the first bit I mean. That would be braver.
What the feck is he doing with her.
I can understand each point of view.
For Brexiteers the UK would be giving away its major card (39b) for a mere withdrawal agreement. Thus it would be better for them to go on a no deal brexit and try to negotiate something better. However that argument has 2 major flaws. First of all a no deal Brexit would literally cripple the UK's economy. The UK would be desperate to sign trade deals at that point as WTO rules are pretty shit. Secondly if the UK crush out with a no deal Brexit then the EU will have to re-arrange its budget to accommodate that 39b hole. Once that happens (and it will be painful for some) all there will be is a group of very pissed off countries who'll be expected to negotiate a trade deal with an unreliable country who had placed them in this shit in the first place and is in now desperate for a trade deal with little to offer in exchange. At that point, the best course of action for the EU would be to make Brexit as painful as possible, so UK based companies leave, they go to the EU country and someone else picks up the tab.
Cheers mate, I am glad we agree.
A Prime Minister should take responsibility for the situations, not pass the buck. If she cannot find a solution, then she should resign, not blame others. She is being paid to do a job, nobody forced her to take this job. If she can't do the job, she should retire.
A remainer would want a people's vote. If that goes tits up then he'll prefer an orderly Brexit were he can negotiate a deal with the EU on friendly terms. By offering them a people's vote in exchange of them supporting a withdrawal agreement, the remainers will get what they want + a second chance to influence negotiations if they lose again.
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The most powerful lady in the country? Not sure. He's made an absolute fortune out of our arms deals in the middle east though.
I do strangely think history will treat her kindly. Took on the impossible job and despite what anyone said, she managed to get a deal on the table, which was considered the hardest bit of the negotiations. Regardless whether the MPs agreed with it or not, good or bad.
Cameron meanwhile shirked responsibility.
Coincidence.
He thinks that she is sexy, she could be a good cook, great lover or have a good sense of humour.
I don't agree with this. Cameron understood that he messed up and he quit. Why should he try to implement something he didn't agree with? That's more honest and honorable that what May is doing. Of course we can still blame Cameron for the decision to have a referendum, but his decision to quit was the right one.
This is like Armageddon, but this time I hope nobody pushes the fecking button
Amendments to the motion called next week not the withdrawal agreement. My guess is May will go and a soft brexit compromise will come out of resulting action. The EU want us to go that direction as it only results in changes to the political declaration (i think).
The only options that might pass parliament are second ref and soft brexit right now so it's time they were taken seriously.
Ok that's a bit better. After reading the earlier posts I was thinking wtf France!?
The whole UK parlimentary structure has been shown up to be antiquated, inneffective and in need of reform. On an International stage to boot.
A lot hinges on the next few weeks.
I think enough is enough from the EU as well. Uncertainty is not helping anyone.
What exactly was difficult about getting a deal on the table? She set her red lines and the EU returned with what that meant.
I think she's about to go anywhere. There's nothing left for her to do
Yes it would have to be the political declaration. The problem is that I don't see parliament agreeing on anything, whatever it is, everyone's got an angle and there are about five or six different ones. Plus I think time is up, decision to be made in the next few days.
Don't forget that she is an MP for a party. She's just the 'fall guy'. Taking the hit for the team. Everyone will blame her and the party goes on.
oh Jeremy
He’s also a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for his part in Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band.Who is this plonker?
I dont. She took on a difficult job and failed miserably in it. She set a bunch of contradictory, impossible red lines and the EU put together a treaty that satisfied it. Her red lines resulted in the biggest government defeat in the history of what must be the oldest parliament in the world. Did she even have a majority in her own party for it?
You are supposed to share the information.
sorry yeah!
apparently he stormed out of the meeting with May, but trying to find more details
I feel like we're going to accidentally fall off of the cliff with a No Deal at the end of next week.
Unconfirmed but widely reported that Corbyn walked out of oppositions leaders meeting because Chuka was there. Unhelpful sod
Its not that accidental. 'Fall' is debatable too
What a bloody child. Seriously the future of the country at stake and he’s behaving like he’s in a playground
Pathetic behaviour! What happened to ‘you have to sometimes meet people you disagree with’? Suppose it’s fine to meet terrorists.