She might be 'finished' but until this fiasco is over she probably will stay in power. Clearly nobody else wants to take leadership while this shitshow is going on. It's why she keeps surviving these no confidence votes whilst her deals get unanimously rejected and she's called incompetent.
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Blair says everything Corbyn should be saying. Instead Corbyn is at the Kebab Awards
All the relevant politicians on the EU side, Verhofstadt, Juncker, Barnier, Tusk (maybe slightly better) etc., are dislikeable conservative neoliberal politicians.
They have a solid stand on Brexit, don't get me wrong, can't fault them on that, especially with the way Britain is behaving.
But the glorification of them certainly rubs me the wrong way, as their policies damage the European idea more than their claims to promote it.
Blair says everything Corbyn should be saying. Instead Corbyn is at the Kebab Awards
9 days from Brexit and he thinks that's a good idea
. How can anyone really think he has any interest in being PM? He just wants to be a thorn in the establishment's side.I reckon the last 2 years has done a better job of that than any campaign could ever do.
Labour's requesting an emergency debate today.
Soft loo roll or hard loo roll
Yes very true, the EU will never be changed from the inside, after all "turkeys don't vote for Christmas" and at every level the EU, the commission in particular, is stuffed with them (forgive the pun). Only outside pressure from other big trading blocks USA, China, etc 'upping' their game, or breakaways like Brexit (if it happens) has a realistic chance of getting the EU to change. Maybe if majority voting became the norm in the EU that might help?
Blair says everything Corbyn should be saying. Instead Corbyn is at the Kebab Awards
You'd have thought after the referendum debates he'd have learned to stay out of this. Good for business to pop up every now and again to maintain himself as an influential expert though.
Too hard a decision, can we have an extension please (to the debate not the loo roll!)?
Jeez...
Well they wanted Corbyn but he was judging kebabs
All options remain on the table and will take a decision in 2033.
See earlier posts.. Tony Blair to become the poster boy for Remain in any forthcoming second (or is it third) Referendum on membership of EU, (formerly known as EEC, Common Market, etc.)
Well the will of the people is to go to the toilet now! Gerrronwifit! Blitz spirit we’ll wipe our arse with newspaper or that scratchy cheap stuff if we have too! No more imported EU rolls!
We can grow our own toilet roll!
I reckon we should stick with the bidet.
hope not.
Indeed... careful what you wish for, although he was good at landslide victories... but in this case his presence might boost an otherwise flagging leave vote!
Surely the EU27 will force a voted through solution by the 29th as the price for any extension.
It also looks like May could finally be removed from the process as well, maybe?, If there is an emergency debate today and parliament then takes control.
May has had two years to negotiate and 4 months to get her deal through and failed miserably.
It also looks like May could finally be removed from the process as well, maybe?, If there is an emergency debate today and parliament then takes control.
May has had two years to negotiate and 4 months to get her deal through and failed miserably.
When do you find out whether the EU will allow an extension or not?
After May has formally asked for one
Why? That's literally what he's doing in the video.
Ah, makes sense. Any indication of when she'll do that?
Noel Edmonds will announce it on TV.
The EU leaders have a meeting tomorrow to discuss Brexit, amongst other things. Mrs May will have to have submitted her request before the meeting (i.e., now).
Cool, thanks.
She's just ploughing on. She may never get the chance to bring the deal back again to the House, and even if she did it's already been rejected. MPs knew about the "concessions" last week and still said no.
'John Bercow ate my homework.'
something I heard on brexitcast last night... might come into play if true...
Apparently shortening a long extension is pretty easy... but lengthening a short extension is going to be legally very difficult:
So basically 12th or 24th April is a date the Eu have in mind for when the UK must take legal steps to prepare for EU elections if they are to have them
If we dont hold them then at the time we come to try to extend we will have no MEP's and apparently therefore undetr EU rules not be able to extend... basically 30th June would instantly become deal or no deal hard deadline
therefore possible they may either only allow an extension till april saying the deal must be approved by then or the only further extension would be a long one... that said apparently some countries not keen to have uk involved in elections and having a bunch of Ukippers having a say over Eu plans so they are minded to prefer no deal over long extension.
I suspect there is a realistic chance that Mays plan for a 30th june extension may be the 4th option of the EU after (in no specific order) long extension, even shorter extension or no deal.
Apparently shortening a long extension is pretty easy... but lengthening a short extension is going to be legally very difficult:
So basically 12th or 24th April is a date the Eu have in mind for when the UK must take legal steps to prepare for EU elections if they are to have them
If we dont hold them then at the time we come to try to extend we will have no MEP's and apparently therefore undetr EU rules not be able to extend... basically 30th June would instantly become deal or no deal hard deadline
therefore possible they may either only allow an extension till april saying the deal must be approved by then or the only further extension would be a long one... that said apparently some countries not keen to have uk involved in elections and having a bunch of Ukippers having a say over Eu plans so they are minded to prefer no deal over long extension.
I suspect there is a realistic chance that Mays plan for a 30th june extension may be the 4th option of the EU after (in no specific order) long extension, even shorter extension or no deal.
Mays floundering here, hard to watch i think she'll be gone next week.
I do wonder if there may also be a legal challenge about citizen representation if they dont hold the elections... presumably a challenge to the ECJ? (Gina Miller?)
It's as if the second rejection of her deal and Bercow's statement didn't happen. This has been her approach all along, to try to bludgeon everyone into submission whilst keeping her fingers firmly stuck in her ears.
"Dear Donald"
That's how she'll start trade negotiations with the US as well, begging Trump for whatever she can get.
and you know what... our system is so messed up it might actually work!
So which is it? We got Brexiters voting to leave because the EU has changed too much, and you're here stating that its impossible for the EU to change. I suspect you're both talking bollocks here... They've misread the past and you're misreading the future.
And on this, if people end up voting out just because Blair is the face of remain as opposed to Corbyn (for example). We deserve everything we fecking get...
On another note, I cannot stand listening to T May
Did you hear what Verhofstadt was putting forward ? Verhofstadt wasn't proposing some sort new regulations, incredibly stupid and dangerous political ideas shouldn't receive a drab well a politician gotta do what a politician gotta do. When Trump says.......er just anything we don't just go '''A politician arguing for his vision of the future. Shock horror''.
This sort of shite from Verhofstadt should worry anyone who is in any way pro eu.
She's just flat out lying in that letter, she can call a motion to overrule Bercow if she wants. They know this, everyone knows this. Instead she's used it to delay another week.
Vote for the deal or i go seems to be the message.
Labour should throw down a VONC and call for a unity government for the next two month. Then we can finally get the indicative votes and find a way forward.
Vote for the deal or i go seems to be the message.
Labour should throw down a VONC and call for a unity government for the next two month. Then we can finally get the indicative votes and find a way forward.