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Guys I'm just going to say that from a distance people can't always tell who is who.
Interesting take on Brexit from an Australian perspective. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10879914
Sure there is people like you. But @foolsgold decide to disappear in front of the question. I have an idea why
I hope bloody not. Here is me hoping, that some tiny country like Slovenia will block the extension. There has been enough time for a decision. The picture will not become more clear in three months.
You lie, you're lie gets exposed and you pretend as if it's nothing. I hate these people so much.
Same here. Unless the UK gives some major concession to make it worth it to the EU I don't see any reason to let this mess drag on another 3 months. You'd need to be an extreme optimist to believe another 3 months would change anything at this point. I think I've finally found some common ground with the brexiteers:"getonwitit".
But if we don’t implement Brexit, people will lose trust in politicians....
What was she retweeting anyway - that lie about the Lisbon Treaty forcing us to adopt the euro?
Yes exactly that. She's deleted it now but rather than apologise she's changed tack with that second tweet and is just retweeting people that agree with it.
She is an absolute weapon. Can't stand her or any of her ilk.
Yes.
Its like saying today is Friday then following up by saying some agree that it's Friday and some do not. It's condescending.
I don't agree. It's Monday.
If you think its Monday you are just part of the echo chamber.
Had a few drinks last night so who knows. I may have missed a day.
Rumours are that May's going to pull tomorrow's vote.
Surprising
Surprising
Also rumors she will finally get forced to resign.Rumours are that May's going to pull tomorrow's vote.
Surprising
Rumours are that May's going to pull tomorrow's vote.
Surprising
What happens if she does? Surely we can't just do nothing for the next few weeks?
Looking unlikely that a meaningful vote will take place tomorrow.
Why not we've been doing nothing for the last two years or so, a few weeks more won't make any difference...will it?
Absolute disgrace that this has been allowed to drag on.
Nothing has changed since November.
Sleepwalking off a cliff to....
Sleepwalking off a cliff to....
If she postpones the vote, surely Corbyn has to try another no confidence vote
You would think so
I think there is a good chance that she will throw the towel in this week.
What a shambles.... What exactly would she have achieved?
A shitshow so large you can see it from space?
Poisoned chalice. Always was.
Trouble is, who or what comes after.
They should pull the plug on the whole sorry affair.
Th opinion piece that you posted yesterday was interesting. I feel that people under appreciate the fact that individually EU countries aren't that interesting for other nations, it's the block as a whole that makes each countries particularly interesting, we also can't expect to see everyone run for deals when we have nothing special to sell. I say "we" because it's not limited to the UK, this type of mentality exist in all EU countries where a part of the political sphere try to create the illusion that relatively small markets are the envy of all.
And all self inflicted I am afraid.
Absolutely non of this was necessary. It was just down to pitifully weak leadership from the fool Cameron who was afraid of the threat from UKIP.
I think it was as much to sort the split in his own Conservative party as it was the threat from UKIP. He expected to win the referendum and kill two birds with one stone as it were. The tosser.
Well being PM does mean that you're remembered in the history books for ever, after even big events just become half forgotten historical footnotes. I can see the attraction of that, even if you do go down as 'PM who was generally a bit shit'. In May's case she'll also be '2nd female PM' which is historically noteworthy.
Also if you've directly taken over from David Cameron you might think historians looking back at this time will direct most of their opprobrium at him.
Downing Street saying vote will go ahead but I won't believe it until I see it.
This is one part of the Leave mentality that I have never quite understood.
The EU is a massive market with massive negotiating clout. Why would you voluntarily leave that and then go on the world stage to negotiate new trade deals with a fraction of the market size, and therefore a fraction of the clout?
So the order of the week is:
Vote on the deal which will not be and has not changed - government loses
Vote on no deal - whatever happens is meaningless.
Vote on extending A50 - also totally meaningless unless a complete change of direction. EU have to agree and will only do so if there is a genuine change of direction.
Vote on the deal which will not be and has not changed - government loses
Vote on no deal - whatever happens is meaningless.
Vote on extending A50 - also totally meaningless unless a complete change of direction. EU have to agree and will only do so if there is a genuine change of direction.
because immigrants.
The way I see it there are three beliefs among eurosceptics that lead to that idea:
- The EU is made of incompetent bureaucrats.
- The EU isn't the member states and works against them.
- We are the bestest and everyone wants to be us or with us, with "we" being whichever country the politician or eurosceptic is from.
If she tries to postpone again, then it’s put up or shut up for the remain wing of the Tory party.
An inherent sense of British exceptionalism from the political classes perhaps?
The EU might extend to allow for a binding second referendum, not that I'm putting that forward as the most likely route map.
i think mays plan is this...
vote on deal - rejected
vote on no deal - rejected
vote on extending A50 - passed by parliament
Eu will only approve if as you say there is a purpose (eg referendum) and may well insist on more than 3 months
Therefore she goes back for another meaningful vote saying if they accept the EU's terms then the EU are blocking brexit etc... and possibly just possibly gets her deal through as the ERG come back on board thinking brexit is better than a delay...
plus she gets the deal through then walks away claiming victory and the ERG install Mogg or Davies as the PM ready to make the trade deal at the end of the transition canada type or WTO
I actually think shes got around 25%-33% chance of getting the deal through this way - its still a bit of a long shot but its her only credible path to being able to claim a victory and walk away which as with all political operatives i suspect is important to her