Paul the Wolf
Former Score Predictions Comp Organiser (now out)
It's weird that people still think no deal is unlikely.
I thought no deal was a near certainty for a long time, nothing happening to change that view.
It's weird that people still think no deal is unlikely.
Lots of speculation on twitter that Chuka Umunna set to resign the Labour whip tonight.
It's weird that people still think no deal is unlikely.
Rumours going around Chuka is resigning from Labour at 8pm and with the intention of starting a new centrist party.Find it hard to believe they have anything substantial and would risk being beaten to the punch.
Rumours going around Chuka is resigning from Labour at 8pm and with the intention of starting a new centrist party.
Whatever. It was perceived here as a trading arrangement and sold as one worth shafting the Aussies, Kiwis etc. for.
And now we have the opportunity to take back control and become self-shafting.
Is Jim Davidson now in charge of the Home Office?
Twats.
Centrist? Probably another way of saying Tory-Lite.Rumours going around Chuka is resigning from Labour at 8pm and with the intention of starting a new centrist party.
Mourinho says that coming second with that Rome squad is his greatest managerial achievement.Looks like Arsenal missed out on 4th that year.
Mourinho says that coming second with that Rome squad is his greatest managerial achievement.
Looks like Arsenal missed out on 4th that year.
Seems very weird phrasing for this not to be a Tory party related story though.
Well it's seemed the rumor turned out to be complete bollocks. I thought the phrasing might have being about Tory remainers "warning" they could move to another party.Centrist? Probably another way of saying Tory-Lite.
I found this photo from the FPCU during the run up to the 1975 vote. They are now essentially the (or one of the) main driving driving force behind the DUP.
I'm not a brexiteer. I wanted to stay in. But I'm getting a little cheesed off with the almost total attitude in this thread that the EU has nothing to answer for.
Regardless of whether you think the UK is childish, should the fact that a country of the size and magnitude of the UK is leaving your club not give pause for a little introspection?They don't. They have been cooperative and professional throughout. We have been a shambles throwing childish strops because we can't cherry pick the bits we like, get rid of everything else and not pay for the privileged. The EU could have been really obstructive to make an example of anyone who tried to leave but they haven't.
Maybe if they actually had a well thought out reason for leaving.Regardless of whether you think the UK is childish, should the fact that a country of the size and magnitude of the UK is leaving your club not give pause for a little introspection?
Regardless of whether you think the UK is childish, should the fact that a country of the size and magnitude of the UK is leaving your club not give pause for a little introspection?
I wouldn't be surprised to see bible verses in American elections next year to be honest.Fecking hell, never in my life did I think I would have seen “Antichrist” and some bible verses literally being put forward as reasons to vote against something. 1975 wasn’t even that long ago.
I found this photo from the FPCU during the run up to the 1975 vote. They are now essentially the (or one of the) main driving driving force behind the DUP.
'There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth'I wouldn't be surprised to see bible verses in American elections next year to be honest.
I found this photo from the FPCU during the run up to the 1975 vote. They are now essentially the (or one of the) main driving driving force behind the DUP.
That's introspective.It depends on the reasons the country is leaving which said country can't explain.
That's introspective.
Regardless of whether you think the UK is childish, should the fact that a country of the size and magnitude of the UK is leaving your club not give pause for a little introspection?
And I can't get over their No.1 point:
The term "ecumenism" refers to efforts by Christians of different Church traditions to develop closer relationships and better understandings. The term is also often used to refer to efforts towards the visible and organic unity of different Christian denominations in some form.
So in short, these are Guys and Ladys (Hello Darlene!) who are happy to go back to the times of religious warfare. It boggles the mind....
(Edit: At the time they were already absolutely happy to have religious warfare in Northern Ireland)
I wouldn't be surprised to see bible verses in American elections next year to be honest.
And I can't get over their No.1 point:
The term "ecumenism" refers to efforts by Christians of different Church traditions to develop closer relationships and better understandings. The term is also often used to refer to efforts towards the visible and organic unity of different Christian denominations in some form.
So in short, these are Guys and Ladys (Hello Darlene!) who are happy to go back to the times of religious warfare. It boggles the mind....
(Edit: At the time they were already absolutely happy to have religious warfare in Northern Ireland)
It's weird that people still think no deal is unlikely.
How could it be worse? If he sets up his own party, if they get the numbers to bring us back to Brexit, you'd hope they'd go about it in a better way than we are currently attempting. Making use of the interim to actually plan out this possible outcome, no fumbling around making it up as we go like we are currently doing...Farage already believes this and is 'tooling up' for the aftermath, which could turn out to be a war of attrition in political terms; in the process decimating both the Tories and the Labour Party. If the new Brexit party wins sufficient seats in the upcoming EU elections, then such an outcome might conceivably lead to a worse situation for everyone, UK and EU, than the No deal option would have... at least the repercussions will probably take longer to recover from!
How long is this pause supposed to last? It's over 2 years! Any pause for introspection has long subsided...Regardless of whether you think the UK is childish, should the fact that a country of the size and magnitude of the UK is leaving your club not give pause for a little introspection?
Regardless of whether you think the UK is childish, should the fact that a country of the size and magnitude of the UK is leaving your club not give pause for a little introspection?
I think there's a few nuances to this post.
I do agree the EU isn't perfect. It has lots of faults. I'm very much a staunch remainer but I can see and appreciate its faults. So you're right there, people should be willing to acknowledge the faults.
However, your question presumes a few things. That the vote to leave came from a place of knowledge. That
our politicians haven't long used the EU as a lightning rod for criticism. Of all the people I know who voted for Brexit, very few have actually given me valid reasons as to why. And some of them are so delusional so as not to even be worth discussing. One woman told me she wanted to stop more Indians coming into the country and then also tried telling me the one thing she was sad about after leaving was we could no longer compete in the euros or euro vision. That is the level of discourse I'm often exposed to.
I know we're not supposed to say people's views are stupid and I certainly did no such thing when talking to her. But I'm sorry, this is a poorly informed, silly view with no basis in fact at all.
So yes the EU has issues (though we had already negotiated exceptions to many of the things we did not like). Yes the EU, just like any organisation, should always be reflective. But I don't think our rather mis informed vote should be a cause of too much concern for them in terms of reform.
How could it be worse? If he sets up his own party, if they get the numbers to bring us back to Brexit, you'd hope they'd go about it in a better way than we are currently attempting. Making use of the interim to actually plan out this possible outcome, no fumbling around making it up as we go like we are currently doing...
How long is this pause supposed to last? It's over 2 years! Any pause for introspection has long subsided...