Everyone in Ireland is calling the Brits stupid, to be fair
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Yeah, where do you think British bacon comes from?
Haven't they always?
Already being discussed in Holland mate
Do you only get your medicine from the UK then?
Edit: just checked 13% from the UK
There's about 50 types of medicine left on a list of 2700 medicines deemed 'critical for maintaining national health', for which there's no alternative supplier yet. The UK is also a big supplier of pacemakers for the Netherlands.
No stockpiling has been mentioned as an option. In fact the health minister is a bit strange on that one because he said that they are looking at three alternatives, produce the goods on the continent, import them from an other country or temporary allow UK medical imports.
Used to be the other way round
Yeah but that was just so they can make themselves feel superior. Land of saints and scholars motherfeckers
Point is, they can source medicines easily from 26 other countries in Europe (although realistically France & Germany would take up the 'slack').
The UK can also source medicines from many other countries, but how easily?
What a monumental cnut this woman is.
"Yvonne Stone, 62, is one of the younger members of the club and tells me she voted for Brexit: "I've been here for three years and have no plans to go back to the UK - but it will depend on what happens.
"When I voted to leave I didn't think it would change anything for my rights to live here. We like it here and we don't want to go back but if I don't get my pension we might not have a choice.""
She emigrated to Spain 3 years ago, has no intentions of coming back, yet decided to vote leave. I almost hope no deal does happen and fecks her over.
"Yvonne Stone, 62, is one of the younger members of the club and tells me she voted for Brexit: "I've been here for three years and have no plans to go back to the UK - but it will depend on what happens.
"When I voted to leave I didn't think it would change anything for my rights to live here. We like it here and we don't want to go back but if I don't get my pension we might not have a choice.""
She emigrated to Spain 3 years ago, has no intentions of coming back, yet decided to vote leave. I almost hope no deal does happen and fecks her over.
The British government is giving no one another option, including their own citizens. Truth be told, European business would love to prepare and be ready for when brexit happens, for whatever fashion it happens, but no one knows.
No one knows because the UK government doesn't know. We are waiting, we've been waiting, we'll be waiting. But up until that point when the UK decides what the actual feck it wants to do, and how, and tells someone, there's very little anyone can do other than quarantine all business related to Britain.
A50 is written into the Treaty. No-deal would inevitably be the default method of leaving. If the EU doesn't like the impact of a country potentially triggering A50 then the EU lawyers should have built safeguards in.
Lets face it. It is a 'You can leave if you really want to, but we know you won't want to' clause.
Much as I didn't want to leave, you can't blame the UK because they've chosen to and others have had to spend money to mitigate it.
Who is blaming the UK for leaving? At worst other member states are fed up with the UK's indecision but not for leaving. Also art.50 is irrelevant, you keep using it for absolutely no good reason, a country can secede however he wants, there are zero safeguards possible.
Kentonio suggests that everyone in the EU is pissed off because of the spending they've had to do to mitigate the UK leaving. That is what I am responding to.
You are making an argument where none exists.
I know what the case is with A50 but was suggesting that others complaining about the money they've spent because a member nation has exercised it's legal right to leave is a bit circular when all EU nations were responsible for the laying the law in the first place.
As for indecision. You yourself have alluded to the fact that this is everything to the UK and only something to each of the other 27. So it will take what it takes and if it isn't finished on time we'll either go out on WTO or A50 will be extended.
It's just a lot of excuses for a shitshow mate. It is what it is, let's hope for the best, but there is no point dishing out blame and crying over what other countries may or may not think... Suck it up.
No, I’m saying they’re going to be angry if the UK fecks the whole thing up by crashing out with no proper arrangements in place, costing everyone a large amount of money for absolutely no reason other than the UK’s own incompetence.
Lets list the reasons why we think the people of the UK voted to leave:
They're deluded.
They're idiots.
They are bigots and racists.
The poor there just wanted to give the government a bloody nose.
They were lied to.
They.....
They.....
They.....
Lets list the reasons why we think the people of the UK voted to leave:
They're deluded.
They're idiots.
They are bigots and racists.
The poor there just wanted to give the government a bloody nose.
They were lied to.
They.....
They.....
They.....
Only brexiteers would post pictures photoshopped that badly.
Lets list the reasons why we think the people of the UK voted to leave:
They're deluded.
They're idiots.
They are bigots and racists.
The poor there just wanted to give the government a bloody nose.
They were lied to.
They.....
They.....
They.....
Who, in the EU, is seriously looking at the state of the union and asking questions as to why one of it's biggest members has elected to seemingly prefer to cut off its nose to spite its face rather than stay in?
I'm not a brexiteer. I wanted to stay in. But I'm getting a little cheesed off with the almost total attitude in this thread that the EU has nothing to answer for.
Because that member has a problem with freedom of movement and EU governance? What else is there and why is it relevant to the other members? I may be missing something...
The UK is not the only member with issues about FOM and governance.
But they are the only member who have voted to leave and cannot decide on what that means.
France has no problem with British people moving about in France , they have a few issues with the french government but unlike the UK we're not governed by the EU.
Deciding on what it means is immaterial. The UK will leave one way or another. Who, in the EU is seriously asking why?
Because they always have wanted special treatment, not only that, they still want special treatment after they have left.
All of those are legitimate reasons why some people voted to leave the EU.
Lets list the reasons why we think the people of the UK voted to leave:
They're deluded.
They're idiots.
They are bigots and racists.
The poor there just wanted to give the government a bloody nose.
They were lied to.
They.....
They.....
They.....
Immigration was a huge issue for the older generation and others.
Lies were told by both sides but the Leave campaign has been found guilty of breaking the law during the referendum.
There are a large number of stupid people in the UK.
There are large number of bigots and racists in the UK.
There are some very frustrated people who feel like the areas they live in are declining. Instead of blaming the Tories they've been sold the lie that it's all the EU's fault.
The EU has plenty to answer for. It is such a gravy train that, for the past 20, 30 or god knows how many years, no one has decided to say "Hold on a minute, aren't MEPs wasting a shit load of money here?" the UK included. The EU accounts have been qualified every year that they have been produced.
However, we are never going to change that from the outside and it has gone on so long that there is no will to change it from the inside either.
The choice is the country being run by a bunch of totally and utterly incompetent MPs in Westminster or little bits of it by a bunch of incompetent (deliberately omitting totally and utterly btw) bureaucrats in Brussels.
However, the leavers have tried to say we can't do a single thing without the EU say so, which is complete bollocks. We can run the most important things which matter to the majority of British people without the interference of Brussels, apart from maintaining standards of safety, and such like. All the times that Europe has intervened in matters of safety and British people complained, those same people would not dream of removing those safety nets now. People cried about standards about shapes of bananas and cucumbers, but fought tooth and nail to protect pies in Melton Mowbrey, or some shit that only really matter to residents of Melton Mowbery.
I have run out of steam.
Has anyone in the UK even asked why? On most polls it seems sovereignty is the highest reason, however we're currently in the process of basically copying most of the laws we've had in place with the EU.
Exactly, and we can't reasonably get rid of any of those laws.
We all know why. A majority of people, along wih politicians and media owners are fundamentaly against what the EU stands for. This is not about reform, the simply dont believe in the EU.
We are right now but it's probably the easiest thing to do. Give the Right some time though and they'll chip away at things like workers rights, environmental law...basically anything that lets business make more money.
Why do you assume the UK's government will be to the right of the EU's? Isn't it equally possible that over the next thirty years it could be to the left, and enhancing all those things?
For the record I think it's better to have shared laws over those items, I'm just questioning your assumption.
Yes. I feel that way as well.
Like you I voted to remain; not because of any affinity with the EU. Rather because I felt that the timing was completely wrong.
We are still feeling the long term effects of the global financial crisis and any adverse affect on the economy could drive us back into recession.
I do believe that there is not enough balance in terms of the pro's and con's of the EU.
The vast majority of the posts I read are saying in effect that it is only the UK that doesn't appreciate the EU and what it represents.
I struggle to believe that the EU as a Union are not disappointed that the UK is about to leave and don't regret not doing more to make it more attractive. Not just for us but for all.
Now. I fully expect to get a response saying that nobody else cares whether we remain or leave and the EU has been more than generous in agreeing a to a fantastic WA.
There is a big difference on:
How Brexit will affect UK and how it will affect the 27 countries on the EU
How much the supply chain, specific products and services will be affected in the UK and how it will affect the 27 countries on the EU
In the politicians from the 27 talking sometimes about Brexit and talking all the time and using Brexit to deflect their problems (no is not happening not even in the NL)
Some countries will be affected more than others for Brexit, like NL, but not remotely as much as the UK will be affected. Sure there is talks, but not like politicians are using Brexit to deflect anything. Is a matter of percentages. is quite easy to see
Also, the 27 have the EU institution to back the countries up, and I am sure the EU will be particularly invested to make a success on the responses on Brexit to show off that everything is covered and try to be seen as all powerful union not needing anyone, not even a big economy like the brittish
How Brexit will affect UK and how it will affect the 27 countries on the EU
How much the supply chain, specific products and services will be affected in the UK and how it will affect the 27 countries on the EU
In the politicians from the 27 talking sometimes about Brexit and talking all the time and using Brexit to deflect their problems (no is not happening not even in the NL)
Some countries will be affected more than others for Brexit, like NL, but not remotely as much as the UK will be affected. Sure there is talks, but not like politicians are using Brexit to deflect anything. Is a matter of percentages. is quite easy to see
Also, the 27 have the EU institution to back the countries up, and I am sure the EU will be particularly invested to make a success on the responses on Brexit to show off that everything is covered and try to be seen as all powerful union not needing anyone, not even a big economy like the brittish