What was the motion?
What was the motion?
Similar to what I think. My money is on a Labour/LibDem alliance to win. Tories will get trounced.tl;dr: not enough certainty yet to be either bullish or bearish on GDP. Who would have thought that Corbyn becoming prime minister would cause a big spike in sterling eh? We've not even started campaigning yet.
Slightly more granularity:
- In the event of a 'loose alliance between libs/lab, they may be able to get some sort of government formed.
- Facebook campaigning from the conservatives will not be near as effective as last time. It's not 2016.
- A loose alliance between the brexit party and the conservatives will not be deciding
- The most interesting seats are ones in remain areas that pollsters have predicted as a narrow conservative majority. This GE will not be decided on traditional metrics
- Liquidity could be an issue for the next few weeks
True. Moustachism must be feared.I wouldn't worry about it, Hitler had a moustache and Robinson doesn't.
Publishing Yellow Hammer and the communications about No Deal Brexit and proroguing parliament.
He's an independent who stood for Labour in the last election then quickly left.Who is that person attacking his own party. Thought he was a Tory at first.
What does the government defeat on Grieve motion mean?
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...assent-boris-johnson-parliament-politics-live
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...assent-boris-johnson-parliament-politics-live
That was Boris Johnson’s fourth main defeat in a Commons vote since he became prime minister. The other defeats were: on the Oliver Letwin motion allowing time for the Benn bill, on the Benn bill at second and third reading and on holding an early election. The final vote counted as a defeat, because Johnson did not get the required two-thirds majority, although technically he won, because more MPs voted in favour than against.
But what does it mean?
Humble addresses are considered binding on the government. This vote means the government is now obliged to release to the Commons:
1) all private messages sent between nine advisers, including Dominic Cummings, the prime minister’s de facto chief of staff, including text and WhatsApp messages and private emails, sent from 23 July relating to the prorogation of parliament.
2) all the documents prepared within Her Majesty’s government since 23 July 2019 relating to operation Yellowhammer and submitted to the cabinet or a cabinet committee.
The material is meant to be handed over by 11 September.
However, it does not seem likely that the government will comply. The Commons will not even by sitting on Wednesday. Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, told MPs that some version of the Operation Yellowhammer document would be published anyway. But during the debate Geoffrey Cox, the attorney general, suggested that the government would not have the legal power to enforce the release of the messages even if it wanted to comply. (See 5.51pm.)
Last year Labour used the humble address mechanism to require the publication of the attorney general’s legal advice about the withdrawal agreement. The government initially ignored the request, and it only complied a month later when MPs passed another motion finding the government in contempt of parliament.
In this case no such contempt motion will be passed any time soon, because after tonight the Commons will not be sitting until 14 October.
And even if it were passed, a contempt motion on its own would not force Boris Johnson’s government to comply. Theresa May’s government did, but May respected the authority of parliament. Johnson’s administration seems much more contemptuous of it.
On other issues MPs and campaigners have threatened legal action, or gone to court, to ensure that Johnson complies with their wishes. But this vote is not a matter of legislation. It is a Commons procedural matter, and so it is hard to see on what basis the courts could intervene.
Dominic Cummings “I don’t care if Northern Ireland falls into the fecking sea”
Dominic Cummings “I don’t care if Northern Ireland falls into the fecking sea”
From the Sun as well...........Any substance in this? Other than random twitter quote by ‘Senior MP’
This is parliament at its sickening worst
From Tory benches, the braying & bullying, the shouting & jeering is just disgusting
This isn’t a game - it’s about real people’s real lives, about the rule of law & about democracy
If you’re watching at home, I can only apologise.
Nicky Morgan and James Cleverly sitting to his left on TV were the worst. Disgusting. Just astonishing these idiotic juveniles get voted in.The smug look on the faces of the Tories is so annoying. cnuts.
They work for the BBC?What's wrong with the people who are buying this BS?
Like listening to Ben Swain.“A general election is by its very nature, general”
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...assent-boris-johnson-parliament-politics-liveCan somebody summarise what’s happening tonight, can’t watch atm
When he goes on PaxoLike listening to Ben Swain.
“Well, that's Yes, I'm sure you'd like me to Well, I'd like to answer that question, Jeremy, and I'm sure you'd like to rush me into an answer but of course...”When he goes on Paxo
It's a smart move from a party with only 15 seatsWhat are the chances of Lib Dems doing pretty well now they’re outright backing revoke?
They have my vote and there must be millions who think the same as me.
Swinson burned that guy
That’s a mega blink”“Well, that's Yes, I'm sure you'd like me to Well, I'd like to answer that question, Jeremy, and I'm sure you'd like to rush me into an answer but of course...”