[dcrompton]

He is good with the ball in his feet. That is what counts.

Is he?

 

[NiceGuyEddie]

I thought he could have done better today. Too many games he looks beatable and doesn't inspire confidence while the opposition keeper is absolutely solid.

 

[flameinthesun]

The guy is such a poor keeper relative to where we want to be, great personality though.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

He’s a liability overall. Yet another position that needs strengthening again after already spending big money on it in recent years. The amount of times we’ve done that in the last decade is nothing short of gross negligence. From CB, CM, RW, ST and now GK as well, shocking!

 

[rajds89]

Feck off everyone who is so keen to blame that on Onana. I have played as a GK. Ther isn't enough pace to parry it to non danger side and he was already on his dive. That's on De Ligt. Period.

Cool story. Onana is shit.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Anyone who thinks the goal is his fault is clueless.

His distribution was poor though. Plus he didn’t come out for crosses enough. And that throw. My God.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Feck off everyone who is so keen to blame that on Onana. I have played as a GK. Ther isn't enough pace to parry it to non danger side and he was already on his dive. That's on De Ligt. Period.

Sorry but that's nonsense. He's a professional goalkeeper, he should have the power in his wrists too push that way... it shouldn't just be hitting his hands and hope nothing bad happens.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Anyone who thinks the goal is his fault is clueless.

His distribution was poor though. Plus he didn’t come out for crosses enough. And that throw. My God.

I'm honestly astounded by this take... How anyone can watch that and think "Yep, that's what every goalkeeper does there..." ... Nah I'm sorry that's ridiculous.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I'm honestly astounded by this take... How anyone can watch that and think "Yep, that's what every goalkeeper does there..." ... Nah I'm sorry that's ridiculous.

It was a decent save, from a well struck shot. Inside our box. It wasn’t a 20 yard daisy cutter ffs. All he can do there is keep it out. That goal was 100% on the defenders.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

It was a decent save, from a well struck shot. Inside our box. It wasn’t a 20 yard daisy cutter ffs. All he can do there is keep it out. That goal was 100% on the defenders.

A well struck shot!? It's fairly central with not much pace on it!!

 

[acnumber9]

Sorry but that's nonsense. He's a professional goalkeeper, he should have the power in his wrists too push that way... it shouldn't just be hitting his hands and hope nothing bad happens.

The bigger issue is that he doesn’t his feet anywhere near quick enough so every shot he has to contend with is at full reach. Carries too much weight for a keeper amongst other problems.

 

[Zlatan 7]

I’m surprised he saved the first shot but we all know when he makes a save he doesn’t parry it outside the six yard box. Defenders should be more aware

 

[lex talionis]

No top keeper should ever palm that ball right to the feet of Maddison.

As for other keepers, perfectly understandable.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

A well struck shot!? It's fairly central with not much pace on it!!

Yes. It was a well struck shot. He hit it hard. We’re going to have to agree to disagree here if you seriously think that wasn’t a sharp save. I’ve played in goals for 30 years and I thought that was a far from straightforward shot to keep out.

To be clear, I didn’t think he played well overall. Rooted to his line for every cross and his distribution was poor.

 

[mattunited1978]

He's a fecking disaster, absolute shite

 

[dinostar77]

Still amazes me we got rid of De Gea for Onana. How the club gave ETH carte blanche to buy whomever he wanted is madness.

 

[Trex]

I was watching the game in a group of 5, me and one dude were like he should absolutely be pushing the ball for a corner. The other three were making it seem like we have a bias against him and he did a great job with the initial save.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Yes. It was a well struck shot. He hit it hard. We’re going to have to agree to disagree here if you seriously think that wasn’t a sharp save. I’ve played in goals for 30 years and I thought that was a far from straightforward shot to keep out.

To be clear, I didn’t think he played well overall. Rooted to his line for every cross and his distribution was poor.

I mean here's the problem, in one post there's you saying he couldn't have done much because it was hit with power... But a few posts up, another poster says he couldn't have done much because it wasn't hit with power!

It feels like people really reach to defend Onana (not saying you are per say) for incidents that wouldn't even be incidents if we had a better keeper in net.

 

[Phil]

Poor positioning of his feet, rubbish parry.

 

[Ole'sgunnarwin]

Anyone who thinks the goal is his fault is clueless.

His distribution was poor though. Plus he didn’t come out for crosses enough. And that throw. My God.

Haha of course he can do better? Have you ever watched another goalkeeper?

 

[El Zoido]

He’s made more mistakes this season than De Gea did in ten years, let alone the howlers he made last season. I’ve given him the benefit of the doubt for a while but he’s just a bit crap and the opposite of a safe pair of hands. And they’re not just basic mistakes, they’re calamitous and usually gift the opposition a goal.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

I mean here's the problem, in one post there's you saying he couldn't have done much because it was hit with power... But a few posts up, another poster says he couldn't have done much because it wasn't hit with power!

It feels like people really reach to defend Onana (not saying you are per say) for incidents that wouldn't even be incidents if we had a better keeper in net.

I don’t really care what the other poster says tbh. It was a decent strike from close in. He’s not able to get his feet moving before he saves the ball and it’s far enough away from the post he can’t tip it out for a corner. His one and only job there is keeping that initial shot out of the goal. Which he did.

I feel the opposite way that you do. People are reaching for reasons to blame him for every single goal we concede. Bar none.

As it happens I’m ready to give up on him too. His reaction to errors is a disaster. Wrecks his confidence for weeks afterwards. His mentality is just not good enough. But I’m still going to judge each goal conceded on its merits.

 

[acnumber9]

Where are the people who said he was good at passing?

 

[Bocca9978]

Seems everyone is saying he should have pushed it around the corner or clear. I think he should have controlled it or just caught it. Wasn’t a good or hard shot.
Another expensive Erik flop.

 

[finneh]

The bigger issue is that he doesn’t his feet anywhere near quick enough so every shot he has to contend with is at full reach. Carries too much weight for a keeper amongst other problems.

Absolutely this. He's relentlessly at full stretch because his footwork and diving are so strange. The former is like there's a 2 second delay between his brain and his feet and the latter is a combination of him being comparatively short but also having poor agility.

That's why there is such a split between those who think the majority of time no other keeper could do any better, and those that think he is regularly at fault... Because he makes every shot look like it's un-savable or un-parryable and every save look world class.

 

[bond19821982]

Sorry but that's nonsense. He's a professional goalkeeper, he should have the power in his wrists too push that way... it shouldn't just be hitting his hands and hope nothing bad happens.

Then take it as a challenge and show me a similar video where the other better keepers have done better in a similar situation?

 

[tomaldinho1]

Anyone who thinks the goal is his fault is clueless.

His distribution was poor though. Plus he didn’t come out for crosses enough. And that throw. My God.

It’s just blind bias at this point. To watch that whole move, Casemiro getting taken out of the game, a cross coming in uncontested, unmarked Son hitting it on the volley, the rebound falling to an unmarked Spurs player then the parried save falling to an unmarked Maddison and because the GK had made a save that’s fallen kindly for the oncoming player it’s all on Onana.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Then take it as a challenge and show me a similar video where the other better keepers have done better in a similar situation?

I mean the inverse of that is show me an example of a keeper doing the same in a similar situation...

Thing is it's harder for me to find a similar incident of that because you'd just be looking up routine saves that barely make the highlights.

 

[Andycoleno9]

The bigger issue is that he doesn’t his feet anywhere near quick enough so every shot he has to contend with is at full reach. Carries too much weight for a keeper amongst other problems.

Dean Henderson explained in podcast why De Gea is "best shot stopper who he ever seen"; positioning and reflexes.
Onana is bellow average in any of those. And that is why he deflects every ball and that is why every shot on target looks as good shot (and hard to save).

Also, it is strange how goalkeeper like him, who doesn't have problem to go deep in field when playing with his feet, is so stuck on goal line during crosses. Even De Gea came out on crosses then and there.

From all our decisions in past 7, 8 years, sacking Dave to get Onana was the worst.

 

[Marwood]

Feck off everyone who is so keen to blame that on Onana. I have played as a GK. Ther isn't enough pace to parry it to non danger side and he was already on his dive. That's on De Ligt. Period.

He's had this issue since he came. He rarely takes a ball cleanly that's low down to his side. Always scruffy.

He doesn't get down quickly enough and he doesn't cover enough space when he dives low to his left or right.

He shouldn't have been stretching for that, should have been comfortable.

 

[Rossa]

Anyone who thinks the goal is his fault is clueless.

His distribution was poor though. Plus he didn’t come out for crosses enough. And that throw. My God.

It’s not clueless. You see plenty of goalies able to parry those wide with stronger wrists. It’s not a mistake, but I know the likes of Allisson etc would be fuming if they had conceded that goal. That’s where he is though - at best an average shot stopper. That’s where being said, Garnacho’s miss for Bruno’s pass is a much, much greater mistake. It’s tough being a goalie!

 

[Marcelinho87]

You'd think our defense would learn to follow the strikers in, that is what they should be doing so and even more so if the keeper is prone to palming inside his area.

 

[Litch]

He is done and like others before him, some of the fanbase are convinced every shot that goes in somehow is on him. It's his feet, his hands, his weight etc.

 

[bond19821982]

I mean the inverse of that is show me an example of a keeper doing the same in a similar situation...

Thing is it's harder for me to find a similar incident of that because you'd just be looking up routine saves that barely make the highlights.

Not really. You are the ones who is saying its a mistake. So the responsibility lies with you to prove it. Isn't that fair ?

If you are wumming, fair enough and I will stay out.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Not really. You are the ones who is saying its a mistake. So the responsibility lies with you to prove it. Isn't that fair ?

If you are wumming, fair enough and I will stay out.

You're in the clear minority who thinks it isn't a mistake, so surely the onus is on you?

 

[acnumber9]

Not really. You are the ones who is saying its a mistake. So the responsibility lies with you to prove it. Isn't that fair ?

If you are wumming, fair enough and I will stay out.

The onus is just as much on you to prove it wasn’t a mistake.

 

[Litch]

It’s not clueless. You see plenty of goalies able to parry those wide with stronger wrists. It’s not a mistake, but I know the likes of Allisson etc would be fuming if they had conceded that goal. That’s where he is though - at best an average shot stopper. That’s where being said, Garnacho’s miss for Bruno’s pass is a much, much greater mistake. It’s tough being a goalie!

You clearly don't play in goal. It's nothing to do with his wrists being stronger, softer hands might take the power off the shot, giving you the chance to recover. Still an issue and that's why forwards are told to follow shots up.

I think hes done his job and you hope the defenders do theirs. Let's not pretend that we haven't seen defenders react before attackers and clear it.
I think his save percentage makes him better than average and arguably the save against I think Palace will be the save of the season.

My problem with him is his inability to concentrate for 95mins and switches off....

 

[Bobby_2024]

Feck off everyone who is so keen to blame that on Onana. I have played as a GK. Ther isn't enough pace to parry it to non danger side and he was already on his dive. That's on De Ligt. Period.

Its good to see a view from another keeper and I really wish you are not as sh1t as Onana.

If you watch him over 2 years you would know by this time his positioning or catching was never good and he made himself look so silly in countless times, everyone is angry not only about today but in general overall, even before that goal he was standing in his area rather going for a ball which led another attack. we can give plenty of examples so any one supporting him is just trying to pretend like mother Theresa's in this cynical world.

He is the worst keeper we had, enough said...it's better we get rid of this clown as soon as possible.

 

[bond19821982]

You're in the clear minority who thinks it isn't a mistake, so surely the onus is on you?

Alright, as expected you have nothing. carry on with your blame game.

 

[arthurka]

His shot stopping is absolutely horrible.