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2024-25 Performances


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5.8 Season Average Rating
Appearances
31
Clean sheets
8
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
1


Watch the goal again. Yes it was looping but it was straight over him in the middle of the goal. Other instances where's it's 'acceptable' to be beaten is when a keeper has gone to meet the ball/near post and it's gone to the far post. Onana's poor footwork meant he wanted to go near the ball, didn't anticipate Yoro getting beaten and then dived under the ball. He literally dives from the same spot instead of moving his feet.

Great save at 0 - 0 but so what? He's let in far too many fundamentally bad goals in the past month that it doesn't matter. He needs consistency and unfortunately for us, he's too inconsistent with his overall technique and reading of the game.

Footwork is fine and if 'so what' is your answer for a save at 0-0 because of previous mistakes, that's called an agenda....

Onana might not be the guy but let's not make this something it isn't.
 
Footwork is fine and if 'so what' is your answer for a save at 0-0 because of previous mistakes, that's called an agenda....

Onana might not be the guy but let's not make this something it isn't.

His footwork and positioning is absolutely not fine. Getting caught by that header is poor. He dives from the same spot and under it.

I already said great save, my post is about being critical of his fundamentals and inconsistency, something I don't think many would argue against. I'm not painting him to be anything else but based on what we've seen. Seems like you have an agenda to make him something he isn't i.e not blameless, not below par and not beyond improvement. Unless you're content with one great save and happy to ignore everything else. It's not just about his performance in this game, it's the whole season. He was good to great for us in early Amorim games but he's also had shocker mistakes...making him inconsistent.
 
He's an absolutely feckin' shit goalkeeper. A decent save here or debating whether that was a mistake there won't change that
 
I'm with @Litch here, honestly. It feels as though people are just looking for Onana to be at fault for literally every goal we concede now because he's had a shaky period of form again, whilst every save he does make is batted away with "well any decent keeper saves that anyway".

I don't think he did anything massively wrong on either goal really but the fact that people are calling him into question for the second, a two-on-one scenario where you are essentially at the mercy of your opponent fecking it up, is laughable.
 
I think it’s underplayed how much he’s costing us now. So many games are practically golden goal due to the struggles at the other end.
I think it's precisely the opposite. Because so many games are practically golden goal now since we can't stick the fecking ball in the net, it's actually being overplayed how much Onana is costing us because we're often left needing a clean sheet to pick up any points at all.

None of this is to say Onana hasn't had his howlers, by the way. The Brighton game in particular was dreadful, and I'm perfectly fine with Bayindir getting a run in the side even now.
 
He is the worst keeper I can remember since Taibi. If we weren’t such a shit show in so many other positions I’d be showing him the door. Would rather play Bayindir, Heaton or even Harrison.
 
Doesn't fill me with confidence and neither does Bayindir. I understand the risks, but I'd still take a punt on Vitek next season.

Still baffling that we thought he was worth the £50m upgrade on DDG. For me, he ranks amongst our worst transfers, also crazy that EtH thought he was good enough.
 
I can’t see us buying a GK this summer as I think we will spend our £££ on forwards/midfielders, but the sooner Onana is gone the better.
 
He’s absolutely awful and upgrading him has to be our number 1 priority. More so than any other position. It doesn’t matter how many left backs or strikers we sign, we’re never gonna go anywhere with this joke in goal
 
I'm with @Litch here, honestly. It feels as though people are just looking for Onana to be at fault for literally every goal we concede now because he's had a shaky period of form again, whilst every save he does make is batted away with "well any decent keeper saves that anyway".

I don't think he did anything massively wrong on either goal really but the fact that people are calling him into question for the second, a two-on-one scenario where you are essentially at the mercy of your opponent fecking it up, is laughable.

100% agree. A large number of fans dont like Onana because he replaced DDG and his first impression was that he was terrible in the CL. He was written off and called shit from that point on and cant do anything right for those people anymore.

Onana was good at the beginning of the season and hardly anyone mentioned it. Now when he doesnt stop a 2v1 on the goalkeeper, he is questioned.

Onana isnt the best goalkeeper in the world, far from it but there is a clear agenda by some posters when they post in this topic.
 
100% agree. A large number of fans dont like Onana because he replaced DDG and his first impression was that he was terrible in the CL. He was written off and called shit from that point on and cant do anything right for those people anymore.

Onana was good at the beginning of the season and hardly anyone mentioned it. Now when he doesnt stop a 2v1 on the goalkeeper, he is questioned.

Onana isnt the best goalkeeper in the world, far from it but there is a clear agenda by some posters when they post in this topic.
I think some of the criticism is fair. The big issue I have with Onana is that he seems to lose focus, and that's no small issue for a goalkeeper either. The fact that he cocks up some pretty easy saves/claims because he seems to just switch off is a real problem, even if I think it's a bit mental that there are people in here who genuinely think replacing him should be "our number one priority" when we have no attacking presence out wide and strikers who would probably struggle to make the Southampton side.

There are some criticisms, though, which are a bit ridiculous. Chief amongst those is the idea people have got in their heads that he's "really bad on the ball", and even "no better than De Gea" in that respect. This is obviously utter nonsense and stems from the ludicrous expectation that he should be finding our forward line with long passes on the regular when we have precisely one attacker who is any good in the air (Zirzkee), and he seldom plays because he's lacking in so many areas. Onana's a fairly obvious upgrade on De Gea on the ball, and although he still makes the occasional error (every keeper does), opponents no longer see him as a viable pressing trap because unlike De Gea he doesn't completely freak out any time he's put under pressure on the ball.
 
His footwork and positioning is absolutely not fine. Getting caught by that header is poor. He dives from the same spot and under it.

I already said great save, my post is about being critical of his fundamentals and inconsistency, something I don't think many would argue against. I'm not painting him to be anything else but based on what we've seen. Seems like you have an agenda to make him something he isn't i.e not blameless, not below par and not beyond improvement. Unless you're content with one great save and happy to ignore everything else. It's not just about his performance in this game, it's the whole season. He was good to great for us in early Amorim games but he's also had shocker mistakes...making him inconsistent.
Its a matter of opinion and everyone is talking like he let the goal in. We see this happen season in, season out and I've never seen a keeper criticised for a shot coming off a bar? Its like criticising a keeper for a shot coming off a post, and scoring the rebound...it's absolute nonsense.

He has had some poor moments but equally some good ones which I think its pretty much all the keepers in the league at the mo. Have a look at other teams, keepers are struggling throughout, he's not alone.

Can we get better, maybe but the idea of just jumping in here when we lose blaming him for looping header of the bar, beggars belief. I guarantee if he tips over a shot that wasn't going in, and they score from the corner, the criticising would be the same....
 
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Its a matter of opinion and everyone is talking like he let the goal in. We see this happen season in, season out and I've never seen a keeper criticised for a shot coming off a bar? It like criticising a keeper for a shot coming off a post, it's absolute nonsense.

He has had some poor moments but equally some good ones which I think its pretty much all the keepers in the league at the mo. Have a look at other teams, keepers are struggling throughout, he's not alone.

Can we get better, maybe but the idea of just jumping in here when we lose blaming him for looping header of the bar, beggars belief. I guarantee if he tips over a shot that wasn't going in, and they score from the corner, the criticising would be the same....
Don't mean to labour my own point but I think it is because we're so shit going forward that any goal we concede is nearly guaranteed to cost us points that the defence and keeper are getting more stick than they're probably due.

Onana's had his clangers this season but to suggest he's "the number one priority to replace this summer" in a side that has scored three more goals than 18th placed Leicester City, whose striking options are 38-year old Jamie Vardy and Jordan Ayew, is somewhat mental to me.
 
I think some of the criticism is fair. The big issue I have with Onana is that he seems to lose focus, and that's no small issue for a goalkeeper either. The fact that he cocks up some pretty easy saves/claims because he seems to just switch off is a real problem, even if I think it's a bit mental that there are people in here who genuinely think replacing him should be "our number one priority" when we have no attacking presence out wide and strikers who would probably struggle to make the Southampton side.

There are some criticisms, though, which are a bit ridiculous. Chief amongst those is the idea people have got in their heads that he's "really bad on the ball", and even "no better than De Gea" in that respect. This is obviously utter nonsense and stems from the ludicrous expectation that he should be finding our forward line with long passes on the regular when we have precisely one attacker who is any good in the air (Zirzkee), and he seldom plays because he's lacking in so many areas. Onana's a fairly obvious upgrade on De Gea on the ball, and although he still makes the occasional error (every keeper does), opponents no longer see him as a viable pressing trap because unlike De Gea he doesn't completely freak out any time he's put under pressure on the ball.
I watched a interview between Rio and VDS. VDS was extremely complimentary of him but from memory he also spoke about Onana's inability at times to remain focused and concentrate. The lapses in concentration is proving costly.

I think the kicking has been indifferent but equally our movement is generally really poor and easy to read cause we are so static, and we have players that make good passes look like poor ones...

There are better keepers out there but playing behind this team currently isn't easy irrespective of who would be in the net.....
 
He has a mistake in him but he is the least of our concerns.

As a fanbase we have been spoiled by having had prime de gea and now we expect goalkeepers to not only be perfectly consistant in performance, but also make saves they have no right to be saving.
 
We all understand that $hit happens, but I wish we had a keeper who could make saveable saves. There's nothing Onana could have done about the second goal, but he was partially at fault for the first goal.

But others have correctly pointed out that Onana is not among the most serious deficiencies in the squad. But can we not all agree that we screwed ourselves by letting Henderson leave while shoveled 48m into the furnace when we brought in Onana? What ETH did to the squad with his moronic buys is something Scotland Yard or Interpol should start looking into.
 
Still would like to see Bayindir given a run of games but today he's not at fault or some cause. Henderson was given a huge amount of stick and lacked trust, he'd be getting slated now. The infamous Salah vs Henderson goal was today Onana facing two Palace players ahead of our whole team.

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Out team is essentially picked off today while we face a wall of players and high amount of blocked shots and Henderson was able to produce a solid display with Palace closing off so much to narrow the angles for our shots. Our xG was very low.

The first goal Yoro is badly caught out trying to jump and the Palace player behind him heads the ball in onto the bar and the rebound is scored. Onana can not claim that ball in and this type of goal we concede quite a lot this season, it's defenders not back far enough and easily getting jumped for looping headers leading to goals. Teams easily isolate our defenders even on a free kick like their first goals was, we pushed up too far, they just angled a ball to the edge of the box and ran to meet it, all our defenders we're caught out backpedaling. We've been terrible on corners. Freekicks outside the box often leads to goals, and we've had so many letoffs through bad defending on freekicks.

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I thought he was meant to be good with his feet - he’s fecking tragic. Not once have I seen him pick a pass and think to myself that this is what we’ve signed him for. fecking calamity.
 
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Its a matter of opinion and everyone is talking like he let the goal in. We see this happen season in, season out and I've never seen a keeper criticised for a shot coming off a bar? Its like criticising a keeper for a shot coming off a post, and scoring the rebound...it's absolute nonsense.

He has had some poor moments but equally some good ones which I think its pretty much all the keepers in the league at the mo. Have a look at other teams, keepers are struggling throughout, he's not alone.

Can we get better, maybe but the idea of just jumping in here when we lose blaming him for looping header of the bar, beggars belief. I guarantee if he tips over a shot that wasn't going in, and they score from the corner, the criticising would be the same....

You're being disingenuous here by comparing this situation with other examples where a shot has come off a bar and you're also very generous in alleviating any responsibility or expectation from him.

This wasn't a powerful shot from near/far, deflected or something he was unsighted with i.e all situations where you could reasonably expect a keeper to do worse. He saw it all the way and got caught under the ball, in the middle of the goal directly above him.

If he tips the shot over the bar and then concedes from the corner because he was stuck on the line then yes, you should still be criticising him. What a low bar to think that a keeper can make a save and then think he's good for the rest of the game. Same goes with other players. One good pass, defensive action or goal isn't good enough.
 
I thought he was meant to be good with his feet - he’s fecking tragic. Not once have I seen him pick a pass and think to myself that this is what we’ve signed him for. fecking calamity.
The manager is a slow learner, so let's get used to it
 
Hope Amorim undoes Ten Hag’s mistake. Been saying for ages that Onana isn’t good enough