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Feels very city with claudio bravo
Watch the goal again. Yes it was looping but it was straight over him in the middle of the goal. Other instances where's it's 'acceptable' to be beaten is when a keeper has gone to meet the ball/near post and it's gone to the far post. Onana's poor footwork meant he wanted to go near the ball, didn't anticipate Yoro getting beaten and then dived under the ball. He literally dives from the same spot instead of moving his feet.
Great save at 0 - 0 but so what? He's let in far too many fundamentally bad goals in the past month that it doesn't matter. He needs consistency and unfortunately for us, he's too inconsistent with his overall technique and reading of the game.
So which save was it?Wasn't that save....
Yeah but unlike City, we’ll persist with the obvious mistakeFeels very city with claudio bravo
Footwork is fine and if 'so what' is your answer for a save at 0-0 because of previous mistakes, that's called an agenda....
Onana might not be the guy but let's not make this something it isn't.
I think it's precisely the opposite. Because so many games are practically golden goal now since we can't stick the fecking ball in the net, it's actually being overplayed how much Onana is costing us because we're often left needing a clean sheet to pick up any points at all.I think it’s underplayed how much he’s costing us now. So many games are practically golden goal due to the struggles at the other end.
That sums up his play for us. Unreal take.To save shots that aren't going in? You cover your goal and anything else you hope goes for you.
One on One save.....So which save was it?
BBC and goal stats show Palace had 3 shots on target, 2 went in, equals 1 save.
I'm with @Litch here, honestly. It feels as though people are just looking for Onana to be at fault for literally every goal we concede now because he's had a shaky period of form again, whilst every save he does make is batted away with "well any decent keeper saves that anyway".
I don't think he did anything massively wrong on either goal really but the fact that people are calling him into question for the second, a two-on-one scenario where you are essentially at the mercy of your opponent fecking it up, is laughable.
I think some of the criticism is fair. The big issue I have with Onana is that he seems to lose focus, and that's no small issue for a goalkeeper either. The fact that he cocks up some pretty easy saves/claims because he seems to just switch off is a real problem, even if I think it's a bit mental that there are people in here who genuinely think replacing him should be "our number one priority" when we have no attacking presence out wide and strikers who would probably struggle to make the Southampton side.100% agree. A large number of fans dont like Onana because he replaced DDG and his first impression was that he was terrible in the CL. He was written off and called shit from that point on and cant do anything right for those people anymore.
Onana was good at the beginning of the season and hardly anyone mentioned it. Now when he doesnt stop a 2v1 on the goalkeeper, he is questioned.
Onana isnt the best goalkeeper in the world, far from it but there is a clear agenda by some posters when they post in this topic.
Its a matter of opinion and everyone is talking like he let the goal in. We see this happen season in, season out and I've never seen a keeper criticised for a shot coming off a bar? Its like criticising a keeper for a shot coming off a post, and scoring the rebound...it's absolute nonsense.His footwork and positioning is absolutely not fine. Getting caught by that header is poor. He dives from the same spot and under it.
I already said great save, my post is about being critical of his fundamentals and inconsistency, something I don't think many would argue against. I'm not painting him to be anything else but based on what we've seen. Seems like you have an agenda to make him something he isn't i.e not blameless, not below par and not beyond improvement. Unless you're content with one great save and happy to ignore everything else. It's not just about his performance in this game, it's the whole season. He was good to great for us in early Amorim games but he's also had shocker mistakes...making him inconsistent.
Don't mean to labour my own point but I think it is because we're so shit going forward that any goal we concede is nearly guaranteed to cost us points that the defence and keeper are getting more stick than they're probably due.Its a matter of opinion and everyone is talking like he let the goal in. We see this happen season in, season out and I've never seen a keeper criticised for a shot coming off a bar? It like criticising a keeper for a shot coming off a post, it's absolute nonsense.
He has had some poor moments but equally some good ones which I think its pretty much all the keepers in the league at the mo. Have a look at other teams, keepers are struggling throughout, he's not alone.
Can we get better, maybe but the idea of just jumping in here when we lose blaming him for looping header of the bar, beggars belief. I guarantee if he tips over a shot that wasn't going in, and they score from the corner, the criticising would be the same....
I watched a interview between Rio and VDS. VDS was extremely complimentary of him but from memory he also spoke about Onana's inability at times to remain focused and concentrate. The lapses in concentration is proving costly.I think some of the criticism is fair. The big issue I have with Onana is that he seems to lose focus, and that's no small issue for a goalkeeper either. The fact that he cocks up some pretty easy saves/claims because he seems to just switch off is a real problem, even if I think it's a bit mental that there are people in here who genuinely think replacing him should be "our number one priority" when we have no attacking presence out wide and strikers who would probably struggle to make the Southampton side.
There are some criticisms, though, which are a bit ridiculous. Chief amongst those is the idea people have got in their heads that he's "really bad on the ball", and even "no better than De Gea" in that respect. This is obviously utter nonsense and stems from the ludicrous expectation that he should be finding our forward line with long passes on the regular when we have precisely one attacker who is any good in the air (Zirzkee), and he seldom plays because he's lacking in so many areas. Onana's a fairly obvious upgrade on De Gea on the ball, and although he still makes the occasional error (every keeper does), opponents no longer see him as a viable pressing trap because unlike De Gea he doesn't completely freak out any time he's put under pressure on the ball.
Its a matter of opinion and everyone is talking like he let the goal in. We see this happen season in, season out and I've never seen a keeper criticised for a shot coming off a bar? Its like criticising a keeper for a shot coming off a post, and scoring the rebound...it's absolute nonsense.
He has had some poor moments but equally some good ones which I think its pretty much all the keepers in the league at the mo. Have a look at other teams, keepers are struggling throughout, he's not alone.
Can we get better, maybe but the idea of just jumping in here when we lose blaming him for looping header of the bar, beggars belief. I guarantee if he tips over a shot that wasn't going in, and they score from the corner, the criticising would be the same....
The manager is a slow learner, so let's get used to itI thought he was meant to be good with his feet - he’s fecking tragic. Not once have I seen him pick a pass and think to myself that this is what we’ve signed him for. fecking calamity.