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2024-25 Performances

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5.7 Season Average Rating
Appearances
33
Clean sheets
8
Goals
0
Assists
0
Yellow cards
1
Be careful what you wish for. Not many good keepers in the prem and many that are playing good enough is cause they couldn't handle the pressure of playing for a bigger team.

I think the only keeper that's been good consistently in the prem this season is Liverpool's, the rest have had their moments.
 
sebsheep said:
If you're alright with De Gea's last season then why do you dislike Onana so much? De Gea probably made the same (if not more errors) on top of his passing being a massive issue.
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Except the little fact that he didn’t make as much errors, his passing wasn’t much worse than Onana’s and his shot stopping undeniably much better.
 
id love to see some images of his dives. Feel like he gets zero push off and doesnt get much reach generally because of it. His short passing/control is good, but man has his long distribution been shit this season as well. Kovar couldnt have been much worse based on how things have gone.
 
Onana just isn't up to the level we expect. Perhaps the level we deserve for incompetent management for over a decade now, but not what we expect.

To be fair, he was actually pretty decent for the first 3 months of the season but his form has returned to what it was in his first season at Old Trafford and one has to wonder whether the chaos behind the scenes which is adversely affecting almost player has gotten to Onana as well. Just a theory...no idea what goes on within the club between matchdays.
 
Kostov said:
Except the little fact that he didn’t make as much errors, his passing wasn’t much worse than Onana’s and his shot stopping undeniably much better.
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Really?


His passing was definitely worse but you'd need to watch longer bits of matches. He would constantly pass the ball to opposition players in our half, starting dangerous attacks.
 
sebsheep said:
Really?


His passing was definitely worse but you'd need to watch longer bits of matches. He would constantly pass the ball to opposition players in our half, starting dangerous attacks.
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I can’t open the link you posted. But yes i do think he didn’t make as many mistakes as Onana this year, never mind last years Onana.
 
With 3 CB in front of him, all of which are hardly advancing up the pitch during attacks, he can’t really be any more protected.

Yet he still has a fook-up in him every other match, meaning United kick-off 1-0 down.
 
Kostov said:
I can’t open the link you posted. But yes i do think he didn’t make as many mistakes as Onana this year, never mind last years Onana.
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It was just highlights from all our matches that year.

Brentford x 2
Everton
Sevilla x 2
West Ham

Were his major errors that cost us goals that season. There's also a good few where if we apply the same scrutiny Onana gets in here he'd be getting blamed for, like the cup final.
 
For a Goalie, we really need to get back to Basics. He was purchased on the basis he fell into the bracket of the modern football playing GK or a specialist (another dud deal from ETH !!!) To that point his distribution really isn't what you would expect for a GK with his reptation, nor does he excel at any aspect of his game. All GKs can have a dip in form and as fans we will sit there asking how the fu** did he get beat at his near post etc.

I would rather we have a GK is a solid 7 out of ten all aspects of his game e.g. 7 out of 10 distribution, shot stopping, command of his area. He can improve but is solid. Basically, a consistent GK rather than this guy who isn't really great at anything, has the occasional game where he plays well but for the most part is pretty average at best.

If the Saudi's came in over the summer with a reasonable bid, i'd take it right now. Messlier at Leeds would prob be an upgrade on Onana right now
 
sebsheep said:
It was just highlights from all our matches that year.

Brentford x 2
Everton
Sevilla x 2
West Ham

Were his major errors that cost us goals that season. There's also a good few where if we apply the same scrutiny Onana gets in here he'd be getting blamed for, like the cup final.
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And Onana, made a mistake against Bighton, Forest, Wolves, Plzen from the top of my memory, maybe there are other, and it's still only February. DDG was also blamed for everything on here, from passing (which also Onana seems to get an easy ride) to cross collecting and box commanding.
 
Yakuza_devils said:
I have never seen a GK who constantly save shots by hitting it back to the dangerous area in the penalty box.
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Yeah, I said this the other day to a mate. Even if you removed all his absolute howlers, the mistakes he makes by parrying to opposition players or into dangerous areas would still be enough for me to want rid immediately.
 
Kostov said:
And Onana, made a mistake against Bighton, Forest, Wolves, Plzen from the top of my memory, maybe there are other, and it's still only February. DDG was also blamed for everything on here, from passing (which also Onana seems to get an easy ride) to cross collecting and box commanding.
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Yeah, so pretty similar amounts then.
Onana doesn't get an easy ride for passing on here at all and quite often people have been in his performance threads blaming him for any goal conceded.
 
wish people would stop making it out to seem like the only two options were to keep ddg, or bring in onana. Too much is being made to compare the two when in reality ddg def needed to be moved on, but it is becoming clear that onana prob isnt our answer either. Just sucks that we have too many holes to fix this issue anytime soon.
 
KiD MoYeS said:
Let's not pretend it wasn't time to move on from de Gea. Onana isn't good enough either.
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I think that's what irks people the most. Everyone was aware that DDG needed to be moved on but Onana bar his comfort on the ball is a downgrade in almost every other facet of goalkeeping. Maybe they're on par in the air but DDG better at almost all other aspects. I can't see Onana ever improving on the basics but he might look OK in a functioning team if we ever have one. But all in all he needs to be replaced at some stage. ETH really done a number on us.
 
sebsheep said:
Yeah, so pretty similar amounts then.
Onana doesn't get an easy ride for passing on here at all and quite often people have been in his performance threads blaming him for any goal conceded.
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Onana single handedly got us off CL last year. At least one mistake in each game
 
Kostov said:
Except the little fact that he didn’t make as much errors, his passing wasn’t much worse than Onana’s and his shot stopping undeniably much better.
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Olecurls99 said:
We could have kept De Gea and spent 50m somewhere else. Win win
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DDG has an hour and a half long compilation of mistakes from 2 seasons. Let's not go there.

Is Onana sh*t? 100%. But let's not start the DDG revisionism please, 100% the right decision to move on.
 
I'd go as far as to say that this transfer is worse than the Mount one. At least Mount is not playing, therefore not actively harming the performance on pitch.
 
Yakuza_devils said:
I have never seen a GK who constantly save shots by hitting it back to the dangerous area in the penalty box.
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Hugo Lloris did that a lot. This was DDG biggest strength. He was in a league of his own in Europe in having the fewest number of saves parried into a dangerous area and he faced a lot of shots per match.
 
Forget about De Gea. Why could we not have kept Henderson, who has shown to be clearly to be clearly superior to Onana?
 
Olecurls99 said:
We could have kept De Gea and spent 50m somewhere else. Win win
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Not really, wasn't DDG on £375k p/w? Onana is on significantly less.

That said - Raya, Vicario and Flekken all moved them same window and would be significantly better options right now.
 
DannyCAFC said:
Not really, wasn't DDG on £375k p/w? Onana is on significantly less.

That said - Raya, Vicario and Flekken all moved them same window and would be significantly better options right now.
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We had negotiated a much lower wage I believe.
I think we were correct to move on though. Just as we'd be correct to get a better keeper than Onana if we get the chance. If we just swap the keeper I don't think this team gets much better.
 
Xeque_279 said:
DDG has an hour and a half long compilation of mistakes from 2 seasons. Let's not go there.

Is Onana sh*t? 100%. But let's not start the DDG revisionism please, 100% the right decision to move on.
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There is a stat out there which counts at 17 errors for DDG for his time at United, while Onana is on 10, one of them is here for a year and a half. And yeah it's no revisionism since nobody has denied that DDG has made mistakes and they have become more frequent at the end of his time here. But it's very clear and straight forward that Onana is no upgrade on DDG and actually is worse option while costing 50m.
 
DannyCAFC said:
Not really, wasn't DDG on £375k p/w? Onana is on significantly less.

That said - Raya, Vicario and Flekken all moved them same window and would be significantly better options right now.
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It is an indisputable fact that De Gea was on 375k/week, but that contract had ended at the time we brought in Onana. Dave was offered a new contract on new and reduced terms, and I have no idea what those terms were but it was definitely well below 375k/week -- and no transfer fee required. According to an AI-assisted google search, Onana is on 120k/week now so it's probably reasonable that Dave, who would have been the backup keeper behind Onana (remember that Dave was offered the contract at the same time Onana worked out his contact...before United withdrew the contract that we offered and Dave accepted), was offered was probably around 100,000k/week. Dave apparently makes 60k/week now from Fiorentina. So, the claim that Dave would be making 375k/week now if we had kept him has to be rubbished. He did accept a reduced wage agreement, although we have no idea what the number that he accepted was.

All that aside, I really liked Raya at the time and thought he was the obvious target for us if we had to get rid of De Gea and had no use for Henderson due to the nasty interview he gave someone. I had never heard of Vicario before Spurs but I've very impressed with him since then. I do not have a strong opinion about Flekken one way or the other, but your broader point is well taken then we had better options before us than the option we eventually took.

Onana goes through great and poor runs of form. For most of last season he poor to horrendous but he improved significantly in the second half of last season and was borderline fantastic the first three months of this season. But of late he's been dire, though not quite as bad as his first four months at Old Trafford.
 
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