Tell that to some fans in the summer who couldn’t believe he would go to Bayern over United
There’s so much risk going to United and has been for a decade now. There’s better options elsewhere for players in their prime.
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Tell that to some fans in the summer who couldn’t believe he would go to Bayern over United
There’s so much risk going to United and has been for a decade now. There’s better options elsewhere for players in their prime.
I think he would have come but we could not get rid of Maguire and therefore did not commit
We should have never signed Onana. DDG needed binning but this guy was never the player.
But we had already signed Mount. With that in mind, I think we should have spent the money on a holding midfielder, not a goalie.
Fair enough, I respect your opinion.
I get your point about the budget. Questions have to be asked why we couldn't identify a cheaper GK if it meant having more money to spend on other positions. The question though is do we really think this is still a personel issue? I just can't understand how we can't play better with this personel when you look at how Brighton or Tottenham are playing. Even last year, Arsenal managed to get a midfield of Partey and Xhaka to function so well. Buying players at this point just feels like pouring water through a sieve.
So if we’d signed Amrabat in July, given that he was the only holding midfielder we were linked with so reasonable to assume our number one target for the position, and Onana on deadline day, that would’ve been ok?
I really doubt any CB worth his salt is thinking 'Would I get playing time over Harry Maguire?'. He didn't want to come to us because Bayern is guaranteed trophies with a good CL shot and at the time only had 2 CBs at the club.
Yes. Only it happened the other way around. We spent a lot of money on Onana leaving us no money for a holding midfielder. So we went for the cheap option. Amraback.
Obviously zero shot we should've done it but would've been interesting to just see how bad it would be with kovar and having spent that money on reinforcements elsewhere ha
Having DDG as a top team goalie in the past few years is the equivalent of having someone like Duncan Ferguson at Pep's Barcelona. He might be the best in the world at what he does but he just doesn't fit. The man was not even deemed among the top 3 goalkeepers for Spain in a good few years now and this is a country that selects Kepa. He still doesn't have a club when available for free for goodness sake. By all means a nice likable bloke and some amazing reflexes but his limitations make him a big no no for any club trying to play on the front foot. Replacing him was never going to be the decisive transfer but it just had to happen at some point.
Except we weren’t linked with any expensive holding midfielders even when the press thought we were keeping De Gea. Amrabat has been the only target there. That’s what you’re missing, we haven’t really cheaped out on the signing as such because we got the one we wanted. So we got the holding midfielder, striker (not named Kane) and goalkeeper that the manager wanted.
Isn't it also worrying that the difference between us looking so devoid of ideas to a Brighton side that cost 20 million and just lost their supposedly difference makers in the summer, just one or two more signings? Signings should add quality, not be expected to transform a team from what we saw today, to being able to play some decent football. I can't think of a single top team that made such transformation because they were missing that one signing. Liverpool were already looking good before Van Dijk and Alisson completed the puzzle. Totteham are already looking different and they will be in a place where they will look at see what can be improved. It's only with us that we expect the signings to lift all the weight.
I seem to remember us being linked to Declan Rice as far as expensive midfielders go. Maybe I'm wrong. But I'm pretty sure we were also linked with Rabiot and Gravenberch along with Amrabat when we were looking for cheap options. So how can you know that was his number one target.
Tbf I think the point was we (united) didn't commit to going for him cos we couldn't sell Maguire quick enough or at all.
That's how I see it. We got who we wanted except we ended up getting him on loan rather than signing him.
Not being able to sell Maguire, dvb and mctominay means we missed out on maybe 70m? Let's say 30m for ambrabat (who we got anyway) and 30m for the cb (weren't we linked with pavard as the replacement)?
And all signs point to us wanting mainoo being the other midfielder next to casemiro.
That leaves 10 + if we got another keeper for cheaper, the difference for onana, as what, to get a striker?
Nothing to do with Brighton having built a squad over years geared to a style of play. Did you notice how the Brighton keeper played today? Do you think Brighton would be as good without that type of keeper?
We did not need a single signing we needed many and I don’t believe anyone said otherwise
Also if you can’t see our style of play is very different then I don’t know what to say.
Oh, perhaps I misunderstood. Anyway, don't think it matters too much. Onana is a great keeper. I don't see what all the fuss is about. Most of the goals he has let in have been the fault of players not tracking their runners from midfield - which to me suggests we will see a lot fewer goals conceded when we put some people with legs in midfield and have our team back fit.
We haven’t been seriously linked to him for well over a year. Rabiot would have been a free transfer, so even cheaper than Amrabat and any links to Gravenberch were dependent on McTominay leaving so he clearly wasn’t seen as a holding midfielder.
My point is even if we field the kids, we should still be seeing a more organised and synced team on the pitch. I take what you say about Brighton but how about Tottenham? If we were looking organised and just lacking the finishing or making mistakes at the back or some creativity or whatever, then we can talk about what individual qualities we are missing. But what we're seeing is a group that look like they just met at the car park before the game. Individual quality is far down the list of what might be wrong.
Grevenberch is not a holding midfielder and was only going to be signed if McTominay left not in place of Amrabat for whom personal terms were agreed in June. The club failed to move on the likes of VDB and Fred for the required fees which delayed this deal as well as paying more than expected for Mount and Hojlund.
To be fair, the shots are also quite powerful.
Onana did dived down and saved one amazing shot from Fati.
Onana did dived down and saved one amazing shot from Fati.
We can talk about Spurs after they have done it longer than a few games.We played some really good stuff at times under ETH last season too. Ultimately though the personnel caused an issue.
I think not even having players to play such a key position as CF is an issue and now same at RW
I can definitely think of at least 2 that even a diminished De Gea had a better chance of saving.
Think it's fair to give him time for things to settle down. But there definitely were likely goalies of a similar ability to him who could have been bought for much cheaper. You can look at this summer's transfers and see them.
Might have been a good idea tbh. Good thing there's a buyback clause if anything.
I don't think we were ever seriously linked as it was an open secret he wanted to stay in London. We were linked with Enzo and Caicedo before they made their big money moves.
But after signing Casemiro, I don't think we ever considered spending big money on central midfield again.
You would have to be a genuine idiot to think De Gea has not had multiple offers from clubs.
Not top clubs
TBF he was linked with both Real Madrid and Bayern. Think I remember seeing that the Bayern deal didn't work out because of the terms they were offering him.
Bayern and Real did not want him. Especially Madrid. Nothing like his agent putting out stories though even though they were not interested.
Both clubs preffered to loan Kepa.
I'll choose to believe the reputable journalists linking him to Bayern tbh. Madrid, the links were more strained IIRC.
Everyone in the summer "Omg we signed a brilliant progressive keeper! If he makes a few mistakes early on lets not all make the mistake of judging too early!"
Everyone after 5 or 6 games "He's made mistakes. He's shit and I miss De Gea"
Everyone after 5 or 6 games "He's made mistakes. He's shit and I miss De Gea"
Madrid journos literally said they were not interested. Reputable journos literally said Bayern preferred Kepa.
Surprised by the fan’s reaction but he will be alright.
Never thought him our saviour but he has strengths that will benefit the team. In all honesty I would have preferred a few goalkeepers but he was popular demand.
Let’s just enjoy the beauty of his game and stop looking for flaws.
Never thought him our saviour but he has strengths that will benefit the team. In all honesty I would have preferred a few goalkeepers but he was popular demand.
Let’s just enjoy the beauty of his game and stop looking for flaws.
Stop looking for flaws? His flaws are easily identifiable, his shot stopping is nowhere elite level. And his ball playing so far has of course been an upgrade, but hasn't really come to fruition yet.
No need for knee jerk reactions, but de gea saves 2 of those. And Brighton never tend to press goalkeepers, prefering, atleast last season, to flood the middle for the second ball.
I do think he will improve, but we just have to get used to not having a goalkeeper that single handedly wins us matches on a consistent basis.
My wife has massive tits but I know for her to carry such marvellousness around she can’t be skinny. So I deliberately willed myself into liking me some juicy plum.
Onana was never that most have thought and will never be. He is peaked in most things already and we’re better served enjoying what he brings to the table.
What in gods green earth are you fecking talking about?
Hes coming for crosses and sweeping. Its not all passing.
Hopefully his shot stopping improves but I don’t think its been as bad as people are making out.
Exactly my point, criticism is fair at a club like this, and he has put in a few performances worth giving out about, he doesn't need to be thrown under the bus, but things do need to improve, and I think with his character they well. I'm still concerned though
People turned already,so to those who that applies to maybe you can tell us why De Gea still hasn't got a new club yet if he's so fantastic
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Ah well. He is our goalkeeper now and better than many in most areas. He can’t be a 10/10, so why waste energy pelting him for being a 7/10.
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